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thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
February 10 2013 04:40 GMT
#41
That pre-roll change is exactly was what I was looking for. Turning off adblock now!
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 06:03:14
February 10 2013 06:02 GMT
#42
Time to take off adblock for twitch.

Edit: I hope twitch keeps on improving, especially because they no longer have competition (since own3d shut down).
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KumihO.
Profile Joined December 2012
United States55 Posts
February 10 2013 06:02 GMT
#43
Well about the pre-roll. Im pretty happy this is changing
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
February 10 2013 07:10 GMT
#44
On February 10 2013 13:07 Foblos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 05:43 StarGalaxy wrote:
this is a bid offtopic but still twitch related.
Everytime i get those ads it says i should get twitch turbo to support xx player.
I think this is very missleading to say the least. The players don't get anything (only the normal add fee) from twitch turbo as far as i know.


Actually Twitch treats it as thought the streamer is getting ad revenue from you, so it actually does support the streamer.

no it doesn't. They get the same if you watch the add or have twitch turbo. how does that support them then? Think again.
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cerb
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany215 Posts
February 10 2013 07:30 GMT
#45
I already disabled adblock long time ago on twitch, so this pre-roll change makes me quite happy. It was really annoying sometimes, when you were just browsing the streams.

The changes sound good overall! I hope as well that Twitch keeps on improving, even when they are nearly alone regarding streaming.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12000 Posts
February 10 2013 07:58 GMT
#46
On February 10 2013 16:30 cerb wrote:
I already disabled adblock long time ago on twitch, so this pre-roll change makes me quite happy. It was really annoying sometimes, when you were just browsing the streams.

The changes sound good overall! I hope as well that Twitch keeps on improving, even when they are nearly alone regarding streaming.


If they stop improving people with no income from streaming will switch to other services such as daily motion, ustream etc as those services improve. They will also need a massive lead if youtube changes terms so you can show sponsors in their live streams or whatever it is that makes it bad currently.
kolofome
Profile Joined December 2010
United States96 Posts
February 10 2013 07:59 GMT
#47
...the tl;dr is like a 5 paragraph essay...
battlefield 3 is pretty damn fun
Foblos
Profile Joined September 2011
United States426 Posts
February 10 2013 08:01 GMT
#48
On February 10 2013 16:10 StarGalaxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 13:07 Foblos wrote:
On February 10 2013 05:43 StarGalaxy wrote:
this is a bid offtopic but still twitch related.
Everytime i get those ads it says i should get twitch turbo to support xx player.
I think this is very missleading to say the least. The players don't get anything (only the normal add fee) from twitch turbo as far as i know.


Actually Twitch treats it as thought the streamer is getting ad revenue from you, so it actually does support the streamer.

no it doesn't. They get the same if you watch the add or have twitch turbo. how does that support them then? Think again.


Yeah...Exactly. The same if you watch the ad or have twitch turbo. Ads support the streamer, and since turbo is the same as if you were watching the ad, the streamer is still supported.
But at what cost ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 09:46:22
February 10 2013 09:31 GMT
#49
On February 10 2013 17:01 Foblos wrote:
Yeah...Exactly. The same if you watch the ad or have twitch turbo. Ads support the streamer, and since turbo is the same as if you were watching the ad, the streamer is still supported.


What i was saying is that twitch's slogan suggest to me that the player benefits from you upgrading to twitch pro. That's not the case. You won't support the players by buying twitch turbo instead of watching ads.
Right now there is no incentive for me to buy twitch turbo to support my favourite players. But that's an impression you can get if you read their slogan. If you buy a subscription of a channel you indeed support them because they get a big part of that money.
Do you understand my point now?
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 09:41:54
February 10 2013 09:40 GMT
#50
On February 10 2013 05:06 Billinator wrote:
interesting. I wonder if they are going to anything to try to fix the fact that there isn't a pratical reason to subscribe to peoples channels now

Twitch getting their money>content producers getting their money, they've made their choice it seems. Fishstix had some pretty lame answers when trying to defend turbo on twitter. In the end as a streamers I want subs> over all if I do it for a living.
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 09:45:32
February 10 2013 09:45 GMT
#51
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choe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany86 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 10:26:44
February 10 2013 10:21 GMT
#52
these pre-rolls are the only reason why i dont turn off my adblock on streams.

twitch should give an option to the streamers to turn off the pre-rolls and give them some more control over their stream this way.

as mentionend in the twitch article, they already know that these pre-rolls are not working for livestreams at all, since you miss content at times that the streamer cant control, so you might miss things you really want to see.

commercials need to be viewer-friendly at internet-media or otherwise ppl just block the ads.

the solution that i see: give the streamers 100% free decision on when and how long commercials run.
they are in close contact with their viewers and know how to solve problems regarding this.
there are many different kinds of streams for different games and 1 ruleset for all of them wont fit. so please dont put rules that may apply for most streams on the other ones who cant work with that.


btw: i will for sure disable my adblock for all streams if they remove the pre-rolls completly.
im fine with the mid-rolls.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
February 10 2013 10:35 GMT
#53
On February 10 2013 04:57 klniceajer wrote:
Now with this , I could drop my adblock .

I hope more people do the same! Let's support the SC2 community guys! Give the streamers what they deserve
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SKaysc
Profile Joined May 2010
United States305 Posts
February 10 2013 10:35 GMT
#54
this is great new, I have always hated how prerolls come every time i change resolutions or refresh
imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 10:51:16
February 10 2013 10:49 GMT
#55
On February 10 2013 13:07 Foblos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 05:43 StarGalaxy wrote:
this is a bid offtopic but still twitch related.
Everytime i get those ads it says i should get twitch turbo to support xx player.
I think this is very missleading to say the least. The players don't get anything (only the normal add fee) from twitch turbo as far as i know.


Actually Twitch treats it as thought the streamer is getting ad revenue from you, so it actually does support the streamer.


On February 10 2013 18:31 StarGalaxy wrote:
What i was saying is that twitch's slogan suggest to me that the player benefits from you upgrading to twitch pro. That's not the case. You won't support the players by buying twitch turbo instead of watching ads.
Right now there is no incentive for me to buy twitch turbo to support my favourite players. But that's an impression you can get if you read their slogan. If you buy a subscription of a channel you indeed support them because they get a big part of that money.
Do you understand my point now?

iirc it only says something like "you won't see adds, whilst still supporting the player".
It doesn't say "get twitch turbo in order to support your player"
That's a pretty big difference.
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
nakam
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden245 Posts
February 10 2013 11:03 GMT
#56
Wow, the pre-roll thing was the reason I used adblock before. I'm surprised how many of you also felt that way.
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Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
February 10 2013 11:06 GMT
#57
Thanks for putting thought into this issue, Twitch. I shall now proceed to disable my Adblock.
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 11:22:37
February 10 2013 11:18 GMT
#58
On February 10 2013 19:49 imPermanenCe wrote:
iirc it only says something like "you won't see adds, whilst still supporting the player".
It doesn't say "get twitch turbo in order to support your player"
That's a pretty big difference.


That's my whole point it DOESN'T say "you won't see adds, whilst still supporting the player"
it says "support player x and level up your twitch experience, go turbo".
I am not saying it's a lie or its wrong how it is stated there. I say it can be easily misunderstood.
But maybe that's just me as a non native speaker.
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
February 10 2013 11:24 GMT
#59
I once turned ad-block off to support TL.net, but had to turn it back on, because of the pre-rolls. Skipping through some streams before deciding which one to watch was impossible. I will try to disable adblock again.
keep it deep! @zulison
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 11:41:52
February 10 2013 11:41 GMT
#60
On February 10 2013 20:03 nakam wrote:
Wow, the pre-roll thing was the reason I used adblock before. I'm surprised how many of you also felt that way.

Yeah that was definitely one of the more annoying things. A very welcome change. It's like if each time you changed channel on your tv you'd go straight to commercials.
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