[M] TPB AFK - Page 2

On February 09 2013 18:58 JustPassingBy wrote:
I can't help to think that their defense was a bit chaotic and not well prepared...

On February 09 2013 21:00 rasnj wrote:

Definitely. Maybe I'm just ignorant of how trials work or what they can disclose, but some of the arguments the prosecutors brought up should be brought down fairly easily. For instance the whole issue of how much money they made of TPB, where the prosecutors claimed they made $1.664M a year, and they claimed they made about $104,000 a year (64ads vs 4ads at $500/week). How hard could it be to gather their financial statements and very clearly state something along the lines of:

"In terms of ad revenue we received $250k over the last 3 years, in that time we spend $100k on bandwidth and hardware upgrades, leaving us with a profit of $50k a year to be split among at least 3 people. Median incomes with people of our technical expertise and background would suggest that if we went for a traditional job we could easily make $200k a year together." ?

This could easily be supported by having people in the relevant industries assess their qualifications, and by gathering their bank reports, but instead they let the prosecutor have his way, despite them knowing that whether or not they did it for personal gain was an important point.


I do think part of it is in how they chose to present the documentary though. While it seems overall like a pretty fair presentation, there can be no doubt that this documentary tries to stir up sympathy for the people behind the pirate bay who were unfairly targeted by the US and large corporations. It seems that portraying them as small and disorganized helps solidify them as victims and "Hollywood" as a villain.

On February 09 2013 22:04 unkkz wrote:


This. Makes me so frustrated since everything i this case can be dissprooved so damn easily, just explain how torrents works for instance.

On February 09 2013 22:17 nkr wrote:
Well to me it seems they were not interested in how it did or did not work. When they did bring in a professor on one of the subjects; rather than discussing the subject, they attacked his persona.

God he's a prof. at perhaps the most prestigeous university in sweden, and they claim he's nothing.

On February 09 2013 12:58 Hrrrrm wrote:
Great movie. Just another example of US corporations using their political influence to get their way. Sweden wouldn't of proceeded if it wasn't for the US "threatening" sanctions. The old way of thinking is dieing off and sooner rather than later the majority of that industry will be obsolete. People are still willing to pay for content and eat it up just not at the incredibly high profit margins of before.

On February 09 2013 23:49 sc4k wrote:


Yeah I agree...imo films need to cost £4 / $6 max.

Games should be £20 / $30 max.

Then piracy would drop off massively imo.