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Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 18:00:53
February 08 2013 16:06 GMT
#1
TPB AFK is up on pirate bay in just a minute as I am writing this. It is a documentary about the pirate bays founders trials. I am extremely hyped too see this. The trailer sent chills up my spine so I can only imagine what the movie will do to me.

You can watch it and read all about it here: http://watch.tpbafk.tv/ EDIT* You can pay 10$ to watch it now or wait for it to go up on the pirate bay website. (Pay! Support them.)

Trailer:


Wow.. The movie was just released and the website went down. Too much traffic.

Discuss the movie here! Don't know what else to say, watch it!

EDIT#2*
Here is the full movie on Youtube! Thanks to rasnj for finding it. It was not there when I checked.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 16:14:15
February 08 2013 16:13 GMT
#2
Downloading it atm, seeders are as amazing as usual @ TPB...
Jaedong & Faker
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 16:22:51
February 08 2013 16:16 GMT
#3
love the trailer

"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
February 08 2013 16:19 GMT
#4
Nice, some more entertaining free information to DL.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 08 2013 16:19 GMT
#5
Any asshole can make an interesting trailer =) But even if it was shit, this is definitely a film I have to see.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 08 2013 16:21 GMT
#6
On February 09 2013 01:13 Thinasy wrote:
Downloading it atm, seeders are as amazing as usual @ TPB...


There's only 1 source atm; it just got released..
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
February 08 2013 16:21 GMT
#7
Downloading as we speak. I have the feeling this will be an amazing insight into modern "priacy". Can't wait! (Yes I'm torrenting it from TPB as we speak =P)
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Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
February 08 2013 16:23 GMT
#8
On February 09 2013 01:21 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 01:13 Thinasy wrote:
Downloading it atm, seeders are as amazing as usual @ TPB...


There's only 1 source atm; it just got released..


Kinda annoying downloading it at 2mb/s when you're used 20-25^^
Jaedong & Faker
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 08 2013 16:24 GMT
#9
On February 09 2013 01:23 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 01:21 nkr wrote:
On February 09 2013 01:13 Thinasy wrote:
Downloading it atm, seeders are as amazing as usual @ TPB...


There's only 1 source atm; it just got released..


Kinda annoying downloading it at 2mb/s when you're used 20-25^^


true, but there's already 300 seeders, and it keeps growing :p you'll get there
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Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
February 08 2013 16:27 GMT
#10
On February 09 2013 01:21 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 01:13 Thinasy wrote:
Downloading it atm, seeders are as amazing as usual @ TPB...


There's only 1 source atm; it just got released..

Im getting over 1000seeders!
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
February 08 2013 16:29 GMT
#11
This is embarassing, but I've never used Pirate Bay and never understood how torrents work LOL facepalm
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
musai
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada552 Posts
February 08 2013 17:23 GMT
#12
this is downloading sooo slowly ;_;
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
February 08 2013 17:58 GMT
#13
Why are people downloading it? (besides the people paying) Is it to send a message about how interested people are by publishing the download stats, or some other such campaign? It seems much easier to just watch the youtube version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTOKXCEwo_8
I just watched it and it was quite enjoyable and enlightening.
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 18:30:46
February 08 2013 18:30 GMT
#14
On February 09 2013 02:58 rasnj wrote:
Why are people downloading it? (besides the people paying) Is it to send a message about how interested people are by publishing the download stats, or some other such campaign? It seems much easier to just watch the youtube version:


Some people also prefer to have it on their computer. You're most likely talking to people always using torrents over streaming sites, I don't think it has anything to do with "sending a message", people just like it that way.
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Joooooonas
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden9 Posts
February 08 2013 18:39 GMT
#15
Seeeeeeeeeeed guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuysss, so excited ))
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
February 08 2013 20:16 GMT
#16
This will be an interesting watch
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
February 08 2013 21:01 GMT
#17
Was an interesting watch.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 08 2013 21:06 GMT
#18
I never got into torrenting although I am most definitely aware of how useful and easy it is. Guess it's just laziness; for the time being I'm content with mediafire, blogspots and shady russian sites. Will probably watch this, so here's hoping it's more of a documentary than a "The Social Network" -type thing. Anyhow the trailer looked promising.

Also, brace yourselves for self-righteous moral crusaders barging into this thread looking to stir shit up.
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FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
February 08 2013 21:27 GMT
#19
the war for the internet is about to begin
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 08 2013 23:19 GMT
#20
anakata seems like a fucking weird guy :D

I still after all this time can't believe the judge in the district court was considered non-biased
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Metaphysic
Profile Joined September 2010
63 Posts
February 09 2013 01:03 GMT
#21
Was an interesting movie, but they really were in total denial as to what the final verdict would be.

It did make me curious what the laws are actually like in Sweden; if this had taken place in the US they would've subpoenaed the **** out of everybody involved to get the locations of the servers, then imprisoned everybody who refused to cooperate.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 09 2013 03:45 GMT
#22
Just finishing watching. Was a great documentary, learned lots about the people behind the site. Wish they gave a bit more information about laws and such, but that's okay, I go look it up myself.
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
February 09 2013 03:58 GMT
#23
Great movie. Just another example of US corporations using their political influence to get their way. Sweden wouldn't of proceeded if it wasn't for the US "threatening" sanctions. The old way of thinking is dieing off and sooner rather than later the majority of that industry will be obsolete. People are still willing to pay for content and eat it up just not at the incredibly high profit margins of before.
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Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
February 09 2013 04:00 GMT
#24
I love these men ^^
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
Bobgrimly
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand250 Posts
February 09 2013 07:39 GMT
#25
Sad movie. Makes me feel sick knowing that the US companies can just throw their weight around and make another country bow to them. So much for "freedom". Organised crime at its finest, making the laws to suit themselves and heaven forbid you disagree.
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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
February 09 2013 08:54 GMT
#26
it was interesting but i don't think the documentary was that great. It is interesting to see how big the case was and that none of it was really talked about in the US. Even with Wikileaks its all kind of hushed down.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 09 2013 09:58 GMT
#27
I can't help to think that their defense was a bit chaotic and not well prepared...
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
February 09 2013 10:01 GMT
#28
I cant live without TPB lol!
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
February 09 2013 12:00 GMT
#29
On February 09 2013 18:58 JustPassingBy wrote:
I can't help to think that their defense was a bit chaotic and not well prepared...

Definitely. Maybe I'm just ignorant of how trials work or what they can disclose, but some of the arguments the prosecutors brought up should be brought down fairly easily. For instance the whole issue of how much money they made of TPB, where the prosecutors claimed they made $1.664M a year, and they claimed they made about $104,000 a year (64ads vs 4ads at $500/week). How hard could it be to gather their financial statements and very clearly state something along the lines of:

"In terms of ad revenue we received $250k over the last 3 years, in that time we spend $100k on bandwidth and hardware upgrades, leaving us with a profit of $50k a year to be split among at least 3 people. Median incomes with people of our technical expertise and background would suggest that if we went for a traditional job we could easily make $200k a year together." ?

This could easily be supported by having people in the relevant industries assess their qualifications, and by gathering their bank reports, but instead they let the prosecutor have his way, despite them knowing that whether or not they did it for personal gain was an important point.


I do think part of it is in how they chose to present the documentary though. While it seems overall like a pretty fair presentation, there can be no doubt that this documentary tries to stir up sympathy for the people behind the pirate bay who were unfairly targeted by the US and large corporations. It seems that portraying them as small and disorganized helps solidify them as victims and "Hollywood" as a villain.
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
February 09 2013 12:11 GMT
#30
Thanks for posting, didn't realise it was out yet! DL it right now ^_^
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unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
February 09 2013 13:04 GMT
#31
On February 09 2013 21:00 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 18:58 JustPassingBy wrote:
I can't help to think that their defense was a bit chaotic and not well prepared...

Definitely. Maybe I'm just ignorant of how trials work or what they can disclose, but some of the arguments the prosecutors brought up should be brought down fairly easily. For instance the whole issue of how much money they made of TPB, where the prosecutors claimed they made $1.664M a year, and they claimed they made about $104,000 a year (64ads vs 4ads at $500/week). How hard could it be to gather their financial statements and very clearly state something along the lines of:

"In terms of ad revenue we received $250k over the last 3 years, in that time we spend $100k on bandwidth and hardware upgrades, leaving us with a profit of $50k a year to be split among at least 3 people. Median incomes with people of our technical expertise and background would suggest that if we went for a traditional job we could easily make $200k a year together." ?

This could easily be supported by having people in the relevant industries assess their qualifications, and by gathering their bank reports, but instead they let the prosecutor have his way, despite them knowing that whether or not they did it for personal gain was an important point.


I do think part of it is in how they chose to present the documentary though. While it seems overall like a pretty fair presentation, there can be no doubt that this documentary tries to stir up sympathy for the people behind the pirate bay who were unfairly targeted by the US and large corporations. It seems that portraying them as small and disorganized helps solidify them as victims and "Hollywood" as a villain.


This. Makes me so frustrated since everything i this case can be dissprooved so damn easily, just explain how torrents works for instance.
VarmVaffel
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway378 Posts
February 09 2013 13:15 GMT
#32
On February 09 2013 22:04 unkkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 21:00 rasnj wrote:
On February 09 2013 18:58 JustPassingBy wrote:
I can't help to think that their defense was a bit chaotic and not well prepared...

Definitely. Maybe I'm just ignorant of how trials work or what they can disclose, but some of the arguments the prosecutors brought up should be brought down fairly easily. For instance the whole issue of how much money they made of TPB, where the prosecutors claimed they made $1.664M a year, and they claimed they made about $104,000 a year (64ads vs 4ads at $500/week). How hard could it be to gather their financial statements and very clearly state something along the lines of:

"In terms of ad revenue we received $250k over the last 3 years, in that time we spend $100k on bandwidth and hardware upgrades, leaving us with a profit of $50k a year to be split among at least 3 people. Median incomes with people of our technical expertise and background would suggest that if we went for a traditional job we could easily make $200k a year together." ?

This could easily be supported by having people in the relevant industries assess their qualifications, and by gathering their bank reports, but instead they let the prosecutor have his way, despite them knowing that whether or not they did it for personal gain was an important point.


I do think part of it is in how they chose to present the documentary though. While it seems overall like a pretty fair presentation, there can be no doubt that this documentary tries to stir up sympathy for the people behind the pirate bay who were unfairly targeted by the US and large corporations. It seems that portraying them as small and disorganized helps solidify them as victims and "Hollywood" as a villain.


This. Makes me so frustrated since everything i this case can be dissprooved so damn easily, just explain how torrents works for instance.

To be honest, it almost seems like the defending lawyers are just as technology-illiterate as the prosecutors. He didn't even get to speak for himself when he appealed, which almost could have been better just for him to explain his case properly.

God I get so mad at this.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 13:18:48
February 09 2013 13:17 GMT
#33
Well to me it seems they were not interested in how it did or did not work. When they did bring in a professor on one of the subjects; rather than discussing the subject, they attacked his persona.

God he's a prof. at perhaps the most prestigeous university in sweden, and they claim he's nothing.
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
February 09 2013 13:19 GMT
#34
On February 09 2013 22:17 nkr wrote:
Well to me it seems they were not interested in how it did or did not work. When they did bring in a professor on one of the subjects; rather than discussing the subject, they attacked his persona.

God he's a prof. at perhaps the most prestigeous university in sweden, and they claim he's nothing.

When you say "they", who are you referring to?
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 09 2013 13:21 GMT
#35
On February 09 2013 22:19 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 22:17 nkr wrote:
Well to me it seems they were not interested in how it did or did not work. When they did bring in a professor on one of the subjects; rather than discussing the subject, they attacked his persona.

God he's a prof. at perhaps the most prestigeous university in sweden, and they claim he's nothing.

When you say "they", who are you referring to?


Prosecutor + Judge. Judge made no attempts at bringing back the discussion to the subject.
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unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
February 09 2013 14:17 GMT
#36
That is a very american tactic though isn't it? It is also common to have "character" witnesses to pain a picture of the defendant or acused, this is however not allowed in Sweden. Aka one could bring a character witness but the judge would have to ignore it in his final ruling, facts is the only thing that matter. Therefore, in theory, this form of character attack the proffessor suffered shouldn´t happen/be allowed in the first place it should also be completely ignored no matter the outcome of it in the final verdict.
Noizhende
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria328 Posts
February 09 2013 14:23 GMT
#37
Wow nice movie. Ironically it beats the shit out of anything the big players in the film industry put on the screen in the last years.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 14:31:08
February 09 2013 14:29 GMT
#38
Loved that "we don't call it IRL, we call it AFK" line

God bless Sweeden
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
February 09 2013 14:49 GMT
#39
On February 09 2013 12:58 Hrrrrm wrote:
Great movie. Just another example of US corporations using their political influence to get their way. Sweden wouldn't of proceeded if it wasn't for the US "threatening" sanctions. The old way of thinking is dieing off and sooner rather than later the majority of that industry will be obsolete. People are still willing to pay for content and eat it up just not at the incredibly high profit margins of before.


Yeah I agree...imo films need to cost £4 / $6 max.

Games should be £20 / $30 max.

Then piracy would drop off massively imo.
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
February 09 2013 15:56 GMT
#40
On February 09 2013 23:49 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 12:58 Hrrrrm wrote:
Great movie. Just another example of US corporations using their political influence to get their way. Sweden wouldn't of proceeded if it wasn't for the US "threatening" sanctions. The old way of thinking is dieing off and sooner rather than later the majority of that industry will be obsolete. People are still willing to pay for content and eat it up just not at the incredibly high profit margins of before.


Yeah I agree...imo films need to cost £4 / $6 max.

Games should be £20 / $30 max.

Then piracy would drop off massively imo.


Accessibility is even more important imo. Pirating gives you anything you want, in any format, in less than 5min. It surely beats driving for 20min to go on a store and buy an (overpriced) dvd.
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
February 09 2013 16:27 GMT
#41
On February 09 2013 16:39 Bobgrimly wrote:
Sad movie. Makes me feel sick knowing that the US companies can just throw their weight around and make another country bow to them. So much for "freedom". Organised crime at its finest, making the laws to suit themselves and heaven forbid you disagree.

I'm so proud of being USA'yan right now (pronounced like super sayan)

I didn't like the characters in the movie, they seemed like grown-up kids/man babies with how they treated the authority and behaved themselves. The guy who got drunk and was a racist a-hole (movie quote) came off bad. It's cute when you're 14, but afterwards, it gets kind of sad.
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Noizhende
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 16:45:55
February 09 2013 16:44 GMT
#42
On February 10 2013 01:27 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 16:39 Bobgrimly wrote:
Sad movie. Makes me feel sick knowing that the US companies can just throw their weight around and make another country bow to them. So much for "freedom". Organised crime at its finest, making the laws to suit themselves and heaven forbid you disagree.

I'm so proud of being USA'yan right now (pronounced like super sayan)

I didn't like the characters in the movie, they seemed like grown-up kids/man babies with how they treated the authority and behaved themselves. The guy who got drunk and was a racist a-hole (movie quote) came off bad. It's cute when you're 14, but afterwards, it gets kind of sad.


Yeah, right, the winners must be the good guys, because the losers were clearly the bad guys. USA. USA. USA.

It's obviously more complicated than that, don't you think?
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Underkoffer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands53 Posts
February 09 2013 17:51 GMT
#43
I've never used the pirate bay, but I do appreciate a free internet. I worry about it's future though.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
February 09 2013 18:21 GMT
#44
On February 10 2013 00:56 DertoQq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:49 sc4k wrote:
On February 09 2013 12:58 Hrrrrm wrote:
Great movie. Just another example of US corporations using their political influence to get their way. Sweden wouldn't of proceeded if it wasn't for the US "threatening" sanctions. The old way of thinking is dieing off and sooner rather than later the majority of that industry will be obsolete. People are still willing to pay for content and eat it up just not at the incredibly high profit margins of before.


Yeah I agree...imo films need to cost £4 / $6 max.

Games should be £20 / $30 max.

Then piracy would drop off massively imo.


Accessibility is even more important imo. Pirating gives you anything you want, in any format, in less than 5min. It surely beats driving for 20min to go on a store and buy an (overpriced) dvd.


Indeed. I never use the DVDs that I own because it if faster to download and watch.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 20:30:46
February 09 2013 20:30 GMT
#45
Above expectations for me. Very well shot.

Btw here's Peter Sunde's review of the movie. He doesn't seem incredibly pleased..
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
February 09 2013 20:59 GMT
#46
Peter Sunde is doing an AMA right now.

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/187iwo/i_am_peter_sunde_cofounder_of_tpb_ama/
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 09 2013 21:24 GMT
#47
On February 10 2013 05:59 Grettin wrote:
Peter Sunde is doing an AMA right now.

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/187iwo/i_am_peter_sunde_cofounder_of_tpb_ama/


+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


^ This part in particular left me a bit disappointed as regards the "documentary". Not particularly interested in it that much anymore. =/
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baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1092 Posts
February 09 2013 21:37 GMT
#48
watching it was really interesting and gives an interesting insite into how the trial and the events surrounding it went, I've never really been that big a backer of TPB and thought that its idea's of freedom etc where undermined by the fact it made money (how ever little)...
but pretty interesting, and it was nice to see that it wasn't super oh the americans are coming to destory our freedom or something like that.

Worth watching for sure, even if you only have a passive interest in it.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
February 09 2013 22:27 GMT
#49
On February 10 2013 06:24 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 05:59 Grettin wrote:
Peter Sunde is doing an AMA right now.

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/187iwo/i_am_peter_sunde_cofounder_of_tpb_ama/


+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


^ This part in particular left me a bit disappointed as regards the "documentary". Not particularly interested in it that much anymore. =/


I just watched it myself. I think it's a good idea to watch it nevertheless.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 09 2013 22:54 GMT
#50
Funny when they talked about the lawyer using bit and byte incorrectly :D
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
February 10 2013 00:40 GMT
#51
People don´t want to see happy careless people on film, Peter knows this deep down. Ofcourse it focuses on the trial, it could´ve given more history of TPB though i can agree on but as a producer myself and maker of one or two documentaries, it's pretty clear cut that it should focus on the trial. The cutting of characters is a concious decision indeed as he does point out, and making things appear to be something they are not is sadly something that is very needed to make the movie interesting/get your point accross. Documentaries are the oppinion of the film maker and does in no shape or form ever represent reality since there are too many factors at play that alter and interfer with the perception that is often called the historical reality.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
February 11 2013 02:38 GMT
#52
loved this TPB AFK was amazing and it feels so much better knowing you understand swedish fluently :< just brings another vibe + feeling to it.
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
phANT1m
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
South Africa535 Posts
February 11 2013 13:06 GMT
#53
really hoping to see this one soon. Saw the trailer and it was interesting.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 11 2013 23:24 GMT
#54
The owners look really immature. I don't like money but I'm not sure if this is the way to eradicate modern day slavery.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
February 12 2013 02:15 GMT
#55
On February 10 2013 00:56 DertoQq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:49 sc4k wrote:
On February 09 2013 12:58 Hrrrrm wrote:
Great movie. Just another example of US corporations using their political influence to get their way. Sweden wouldn't of proceeded if it wasn't for the US "threatening" sanctions. The old way of thinking is dieing off and sooner rather than later the majority of that industry will be obsolete. People are still willing to pay for content and eat it up just not at the incredibly high profit margins of before.


Yeah I agree...imo films need to cost £4 / $6 max.

Games should be £20 / $30 max.

Then piracy would drop off massively imo.


Accessibility is even more important imo. Pirating gives you anything you want, in any format, in less than 5min. It surely beats driving for 20min to go on a store and buy an (overpriced) dvd.

Not to mention you don't need to watch FBI warnings and other bullshit for 5 minutes on downloaded films. Paying customers get the inferior product.
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 12 2013 02:25 GMT
#56
You can pay 10$ to watch it now or wait for it to go up on the pirate bay website. (Pay! Support them.)


We're supposed to pay to watch a documentary about people allegedly illegally downloading things, instead of alledgedly illegally downloading it... I just had to write that sentence, because irony.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
February 12 2013 02:39 GMT
#57
On February 12 2013 11:15 BadBinky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 00:56 DertoQq wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:49 sc4k wrote:
On February 09 2013 12:58 Hrrrrm wrote:
Great movie. Just another example of US corporations using their political influence to get their way. Sweden wouldn't of proceeded if it wasn't for the US "threatening" sanctions. The old way of thinking is dieing off and sooner rather than later the majority of that industry will be obsolete. People are still willing to pay for content and eat it up just not at the incredibly high profit margins of before.


Yeah I agree...imo films need to cost £4 / $6 max.

Games should be £20 / $30 max.

Then piracy would drop off massively imo.


Accessibility is even more important imo. Pirating gives you anything you want, in any format, in less than 5min. It surely beats driving for 20min to go on a store and buy an (overpriced) dvd.

Not to mention you don't need to watch FBI warnings and other bullshit for 5 minutes on downloaded films. Paying customers get the inferior product.

Yes, was about to write this. Pirating is much easier, and you get a better viewing experience. Apart from being free.

At the right price, I would pay for some kind of subscription where I pay a fix (or even download dependent) amount monthly to freely download movies and music. It can still be torrent format with advertisements to keep price down, and maybe give discounts to strong uploaders.

Problem, I guess, is that you would not find all movies/music there, as you would have to ask everyone permission before you put it on that site. While places like TPB has everything that anyone cares abouts, as you don't need to ask permission from the producers. Also the paying would exclude a ot of ppl. and you would have a lot slower DL than a completely free (and popular) site like tpb.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
February 12 2013 02:45 GMT
#58
On February 12 2013 11:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
Show nested quote +
You can pay 10$ to watch it now or wait for it to go up on the pirate bay website. (Pay! Support them.)


We're supposed to pay to watch a documentary about people allegedly illegally downloading things, instead of alledgedly illegally downloading it... I just had to write that sentence, because irony.

No all the money is going to the website im quite sure. And they put it up for free on youtube.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
February 12 2013 03:07 GMT
#59
On February 12 2013 11:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
Show nested quote +
You can pay 10$ to watch it now or wait for it to go up on the pirate bay website. (Pay! Support them.)


We're supposed to pay to watch a documentary about people allegedly illegally downloading things, instead of alledgedly illegally downloading it... I just had to write that sentence, because irony.

Not "supposed to pay", but "can pay".
As long as they don't start complaining about and taking down the free alternatives (which they of course will not), I think it's fine.

I don't think TPB is saying that the music/video industry should work for free, just that this intellectual property is silly. You can see it as TPB (and brokenmirage echoing them) asking for optional donations for putting the movie together.

So you can agree or not agree with TPB, but I don't think them allowing for donations in this way is conflicting with their own principles.
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
February 12 2013 03:10 GMT
#60
I was really surprised by the production quality of this. Really above my expectations, I like what they are preaching about how copyright is a tool to control people and money.
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