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On February 09 2013 16:39 Bobgrimly wrote:
Sad movie. Makes me feel sick knowing that the US companies can just throw their weight around and make another country bow to them. So much for "freedom". Organised crime at its finest, making the laws to suit themselves and heaven forbid you disagree.
I'm so proud of being USA'yan right now (pronounced like super sayan)
I didn't like the characters in the movie, they seemed like grown-up kids/man babies with how they treated the authority and behaved themselves. The guy who got drunk and was a racist a-hole (movie quote) came off bad. It's cute when you're 14, but afterwards, it gets kind of sad.
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On February 10 2013 01:27 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2013 16:39 Bobgrimly wrote:
Sad movie. Makes me feel sick knowing that the US companies can just throw their weight around and make another country bow to them. So much for "freedom". Organised crime at its finest, making the laws to suit themselves and heaven forbid you disagree. I'm so proud of being USA'yan right now (pronounced like super sayan) I didn't like the characters in the movie, they seemed like grown-up kids/man babies with how they treated the authority and behaved themselves. The guy who got drunk and was a racist a-hole (movie quote) came off bad. It's cute when you're 14, but afterwards, it gets kind of sad.
Yeah, right, the winners must be the good guys, because the losers were clearly the bad guys. USA. USA. USA. 
It's obviously more complicated than that, don't you think?
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I've never used the pirate bay, but I do appreciate a free internet. I worry about it's future though.
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On February 10 2013 00:56 DertoQq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2013 23:49 sc4k wrote:On February 09 2013 12:58 Hrrrrm wrote:
Great movie. Just another example of US corporations using their political influence to get their way. Sweden wouldn't of proceeded if it wasn't for the US "threatening" sanctions. The old way of thinking is dieing off and sooner rather than later the majority of that industry will be obsolete. People are still willing to pay for content and eat it up just not at the incredibly high profit margins of before. Yeah I agree...imo films need to cost £4 / $6 max. Games should be £20 / $30 max. Then piracy would drop off massively imo. Accessibility is even more important imo. Pirating gives you anything you want, in any format, in less than 5min. It surely beats driving for 20min to go on a store and buy an (overpriced) dvd.
Indeed. I never use the DVDs that I own because it if faster to download and watch.
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Above expectations for me. Very well shot.
Btw here's Peter Sunde's review of the movie. He doesn't seem incredibly pleased..
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^ This part in particular left me a bit disappointed as regards the "documentary". Not particularly interested in it that much anymore. =/
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watching it was really interesting and gives an interesting insite into how the trial and the events surrounding it went, I've never really been that big a backer of TPB and thought that its idea's of freedom etc where undermined by the fact it made money (how ever little)...
but pretty interesting, and it was nice to see that it wasn't super oh the americans are coming to destory our freedom or something like that.
Worth watching for sure, even if you only have a passive interest in it.
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On February 10 2013 06:24 MasterOfPuppets wrote:+ Show Spoiler +^ This part in particular left me a bit disappointed as regards the "documentary". Not particularly interested in it that much anymore. =/
I just watched it myself. I think it's a good idea to watch it nevertheless.
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Funny when they talked about the lawyer using bit and byte incorrectly :D
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People don´t want to see happy careless people on film, Peter knows this deep down. Ofcourse it focuses on the trial, it could´ve given more history of TPB though i can agree on but as a producer myself and maker of one or two documentaries, it's pretty clear cut that it should focus on the trial. The cutting of characters is a concious decision indeed as he does point out, and making things appear to be something they are not is sadly something that is very needed to make the movie interesting/get your point accross. Documentaries are the oppinion of the film maker and does in no shape or form ever represent reality since there are too many factors at play that alter and interfer with the perception that is often called the historical reality.
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loved this TPB AFK was amazing and it feels so much better knowing you understand swedish fluently :< just brings another vibe + feeling to it.
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really hoping to see this one soon. Saw the trailer and it was interesting.
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The owners look really immature. I don't like money but I'm not sure if this is the way to eradicate modern day slavery.
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On February 10 2013 00:56 DertoQq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2013 23:49 sc4k wrote:On February 09 2013 12:58 Hrrrrm wrote:
Great movie. Just another example of US corporations using their political influence to get their way. Sweden wouldn't of proceeded if it wasn't for the US "threatening" sanctions. The old way of thinking is dieing off and sooner rather than later the majority of that industry will be obsolete. People are still willing to pay for content and eat it up just not at the incredibly high profit margins of before. Yeah I agree...imo films need to cost £4 / $6 max. Games should be £20 / $30 max. Then piracy would drop off massively imo. Accessibility is even more important imo. Pirating gives you anything you want, in any format, in less than 5min. It surely beats driving for 20min to go on a store and buy an (overpriced) dvd.
Not to mention you don't need to watch FBI warnings and other bullshit for 5 minutes on downloaded films. Paying customers get the inferior product.
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You can pay 10$ to watch it now or wait for it to go up on the pirate bay website. (Pay! Support them.)
We're supposed to pay to watch a documentary about people allegedly illegally downloading things, instead of alledgedly illegally downloading it... I just had to write that sentence, because irony.
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On February 12 2013 11:15 BadBinky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 00:56 DertoQq wrote:On February 09 2013 23:49 sc4k wrote:On February 09 2013 12:58 Hrrrrm wrote:
Great movie. Just another example of US corporations using their political influence to get their way. Sweden wouldn't of proceeded if it wasn't for the US "threatening" sanctions. The old way of thinking is dieing off and sooner rather than later the majority of that industry will be obsolete. People are still willing to pay for content and eat it up just not at the incredibly high profit margins of before. Yeah I agree...imo films need to cost £4 / $6 max. Games should be £20 / $30 max. Then piracy would drop off massively imo. Accessibility is even more important imo. Pirating gives you anything you want, in any format, in less than 5min. It surely beats driving for 20min to go on a store and buy an (overpriced) dvd. Not to mention you don't need to watch FBI warnings and other bullshit for 5 minutes on downloaded films. Paying customers get the inferior product.
Yes, was about to write this. Pirating is much easier, and you get a better viewing experience. Apart from being free.
At the right price, I would pay for some kind of subscription where I pay a fix (or even download dependent) amount monthly to freely download movies and music. It can still be torrent format with advertisements to keep price down, and maybe give discounts to strong uploaders.
Problem, I guess, is that you would not find all movies/music there, as you would have to ask everyone permission before you put it on that site. While places like TPB has everything that anyone cares abouts, as you don't need to ask permission from the producers.  Also the paying would exclude a ot of ppl. and you would have a lot slower DL than a completely free (and popular) site like tpb.
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On February 12 2013 11:25 BrokenMirage wrote:Show nested quote +You can pay 10$ to watch it now or wait for it to go up on the pirate bay website. (Pay! Support them.) We're supposed to pay to watch a documentary about people allegedly illegally downloading things, instead of alledgedly illegally downloading it... I just had to write that sentence, because irony.
No all the money is going to the website im quite sure. And they put it up for free on youtube.
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On February 12 2013 11:25 BrokenMirage wrote:Show nested quote +You can pay 10$ to watch it now or wait for it to go up on the pirate bay website. (Pay! Support them.) We're supposed to pay to watch a documentary about people allegedly illegally downloading things, instead of alledgedly illegally downloading it... I just had to write that sentence, because irony.
Not "supposed to pay", but "can pay".
As long as they don't start complaining about and taking down the free alternatives (which they of course will not), I think it's fine.
I don't think TPB is saying that the music/video industry should work for free, just that this intellectual property is silly. You can see it as TPB (and brokenmirage echoing them) asking for optional donations for putting the movie together.
So you can agree or not agree with TPB, but I don't think them allowing for donations in this way is conflicting with their own principles.
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I was really surprised by the production quality of this. Really above my expectations, I like what they are preaching about how copyright is a tool to control people and money.
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