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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
On January 24 2014 17:42 Gamegene wrote: it's unreal how delusional or conceited rodman is. his good ol buddy fed his own uncle to the dogs and he thinks it's a bright idea to bring his friends over to sing happy birthday to the dictator of the most brutal and inhumane regime on earth? he needs to seriously fuck off the feeding to dogs thing isnt true | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6272 Posts
It's actually pretty terrible how newspapers take silly rumours for facts and deliver it as truth to us. I mean sure it's North Korea but checking if it's from a credible source shouldn't be too hard... edit: I think it just shows how little we actually know about the country | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On January 24 2014 21:21 RvB wrote: It's actually pretty terrible how newspapers take silly rumours for facts and deliver it as truth to us. I mean sure it's North Korea but checking if it's from a credible source shouldn't be too hard... edit: I think it just shows how little we actually know about the country It just shows how easily manipulated we are ourselves. "Lolol those N. Koreans and their propaganda machine. How stupid are those people believing that shit?", all while believing everything our media produces without a second thought as long as it fits our world view (North Korea = bad; so everything bad about them must be true). | ||
micronesia
United States24770 Posts
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
Jokes aside, I have a bunch of family that live in SK. For their safety's sake, I'd rather the status quo in that region stay as is. But thinking of all the bullshit that goes on in the north, I'm also hoping that somehow the regime implodes. One can wish right? | ||
white_horse
1019 Posts
On January 24 2014 21:42 Zocat wrote: It just shows how easily manipulated we are ourselves. "Lolol those N. Koreans and their propaganda machine. How stupid are those people believing that shit?", all while believing everything our media produces without a second thought as long as it fits our world view (North Korea = bad; so everything bad about them must be true). Whether or not a country is "bad" is a relative concept, but north korea is a bad country only because it fits our world view and that is advantageous to us? Uh no. The media doesn't get any credit for reporting an apparent lie, but North korea is terrible enough that the idea that kim's uncle was fed to the dogs is not farfetched. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On January 25 2014 01:50 white_horse wrote: Whether or not a country is "bad" is a relative concept, but north korea is a bad country only because it fits our world view and that is advantageous to us? Uh no. Correct. Don't know why you quoted me though. | ||
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NIJ
1012 Posts
On January 24 2014 21:42 Zocat wrote: It just shows how easily manipulated we are ourselves. "Lolol those N. Koreans and their propaganda machine. How stupid are those people believing that shit?", all while believing everything our media produces without a second thought as long as it fits our world view (North Korea = bad; so everything bad about them must be true). Media is at fault, but I wouldn't blame it entirely on them either. North korea reminds me of boo radley in to kill a mockingbird. People live to gossip about things they don't understand and fear. And its not helping when neither nk nor boo are being reclusive and create misunderstandings. Not that I think nk is gonna turn out to be wonderful society with a gentle heart just totally misunderstood like in to kill a mockingbird or anything. Well I just spoilered the book for y'all. But if you haven't read it by now you probably don't care and most read it for school anyway. :p | ||
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KwarK
United States43966 Posts
On January 25 2014 03:00 Zocat wrote: Correct. Don't know why you quoted me though. Uh no. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On January 24 2014 14:55 rezoacken wrote: Well no, 4hours trip to the sun is below light speed. Yea mental glitch in my head, suns light to earth is like 8 mins, not 8 hours. | ||
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
Murderous North Korean nutjob Kim Jong Un ordered the executions of the entire family of the uncle he earlier had killed, including women, kids and the country’s ambassadors to Cuba and Malaysia, according to a new report. Jang Song Thaek, the once-powerful uncle, was executed last month on charges of attempting to overthrow the communist regime through a military-backed coup. All direct relatives of Jang have now also been executed, sources told Korea’s Yonhap News Agency. “Extensive executions have been carried out for relatives of Jang Song Thaek,” one source said. “All relatives of Jang have been put to death, including even children.” The dead include Jang’s sister Jang Kye Sun, her husband and Ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong Jin, and Ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong Chol, a nephew of Jang, along with his two sons, the sources said. All were recalled to Pyongyang in early December and executed, they said. The sons, daughters and even grandchildren of Jang’s two brothers were also killed, the agency said. “Some relatives were shot to death by pistol in front of other people if they resisted while being dragged out of their apartment homes,” another source said. Some relatives by marriage, including the wife of the ambassador to Malaysia, have been spared from executions and exiled to remote villages, according to the sources. “The executions of Jang’s relatives mean that no traces of him should be left,” a source said. “The purge of the Jang Song Thaek people is under way on an extensive scale from relatives and low-level officials.” Source + Show Spoiler + http://nypost.com/2014/01/27/kim-jong-un-ordered-execution-of-uncles-entire-family/ | ||
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micronesia
United States24770 Posts
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
Sad really. I wonder, if that regime ever gets overthrown, what horrors we will discover. On January 29 2014 04:36 micronesia wrote: As appropriate as the word choice may be, I have trouble taking news seriously when it refers to a public figure as a 'nutjob.' The question I have in response to this is: is this somehow particularly surprising? I pretty much assume the worst about that regime in every respect. You can find the news in other sources. The news seems to have originally been emitted by S. Korean news agency Yonhap. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11824 Posts
Pretty much everything else possible, from sending whole families to torture prisons, slave labor, people starving, mass executions and experiments on humans we already know is happening in NK. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6272 Posts
On January 29 2014 04:36 micronesia wrote: As appropriate as the word choice may be, I have trouble taking news seriously when it refers to a public figure as a 'nutjob.' The question I have in response to this is: is this somehow particularly surprising? I pretty much assume the worst about that regime in every respect. Not surprising at all and pretty logical consequence of killing Thaek I'd say. It wouldn't be very clever to let his family live who now hate Kim Jong Un's guts and could form a faction to overthrow him or at least attempt to. I don't think this particular case makes him a nutjob, more of a cold man who tries to consolidate his power as a sole ruler. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
A senior North Korean diplomat has told Sky News that the United States is to blame for the tense situation on the Korean peninsula but relations between the two countries could be "normalised" if Washington gave up its "hostile policy". In an unprecedented interview, North Korea's ambassador to the UK Hyun Hak-bong also urged South Korea to cancel an upcoming joint military exercise with the US. "It is high time for South Korea to cancel or to stop the military exercises. And it is advisable for the international community to try hard to prevent such a kind of dangerous military exercises," Ambassador Hyun said. But he was not willing to predict how North Korea might respond if the exercise did go ahead. The Ambassador also explained in more detail than previously heard, the process behind the execution of Jang Song Thaek, Kim Jong Un's uncle. He said: "Well Jang Song Thaek did lots of crimes. He made anti-party, anti-government crimes, and as well he abused his power in hindering the national economy and hindering the efforts of the national economy and for improving people's living standards. "He spent 4.6 million euro in 2009 alone. He made tremendous crimes against the government, against the people, against the country." "Actually our party pardoned him on several occasions when he made wrong-doings in the past, but this time his crimes is beyond the level, is beyond the red line. "So they enlarged a meeting of the party and handed (him) over to the legal system. So the special Military Court of the Ministry of State Security put him on trial, he confessed to what he did wrong and according to article 60 of the Criminal Code of DPR Korea he was executed." "According to the laws by the criminal court he was sentenced to death. Well he was shot to death." + Show Spoiler [Whole Article] + A senior North Korean diplomat has told Sky News that the United States is to blame for the tense situation on the Korean peninsula but relations between the two countries could be "normalised" if Washington gave up its "hostile policy". In an unprecedented interview, North Korea's ambassador to the UK Hyun Hak-bong also urged South Korea to cancel an upcoming joint military exercise with the US. "It is high time for South Korea to cancel or to stop the military exercises. And it is advisable for the international community to try hard to prevent such a kind of dangerous military exercises," Ambassador Hyun said. But he was not willing to predict how North Korea might respond if the exercise did go ahead. He said: "It is not helpful for the United States to remain in South Korea. "The US makes the situation tense all the time by bringing in military equipment and disrupts peace on the peninsula by pursuing hostile policies and threatening the DPR Korea with nuclear weapons. "So I don't think the US is helpful unless it abandons its hostile policy towards DPR Korea." The interview follows an open letter sent by Pyongyang to Seoul. The letter calls for "realistic measures to prevent impending nuclear disasters with concerted efforts of the Korean nation". The United States has insisted that North Korea stop all production of nuclear weapons before peace talks can begin again. But the ambassador suggested that was not a step that his country was willing to take in the current climate. He said: "DPR Korea has no option but to have the nuclear deterrent in order to defend the sovereignty of the country and in order to save the security and peace on the Korean peninsula as well as the lives of the people." The Ambassador also explained in more detail than previously heard, the process behind the execution of Jang Song Thaek, Kim Jong Un's uncle. He said: "Well Jang Song Thaek did lots of crimes. He made anti-party, anti-government crimes, and as well he abused his power in hindering the national economy and hindering the efforts of the national economy and for improving people's living standards. "He spent 4.6 million euro in 2009 alone. He made tremendous crimes against the government, against the people, against the country." "Actually our party pardoned him on several occasions when he made wrong-doings in the past, but this time his crimes is beyond the level, is beyond the red line. "So they enlarged a meeting of the party and handed (him) over to the legal system. So the special Military Court of the Ministry of State Security put him on trial, he confessed to what he did wrong and according to article 60 of the Criminal Code of DPR Korea he was executed." "According to the laws by the criminal court he was sentenced to death. Well he was shot to death." I challenged Ambassador Hyun to confirm the fate of the uncle's family after recent reports suggested they too might have been executed, along with anyone else loyal to the former General. "This is the political propaganda by our enemies," he replied. "I think that this fabricated report does not deserve my comment. I know he was punished but if his family were punished or not, I don't know." Source | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On January 29 2014 05:57 RvB wrote: Not surprising at all and pretty logical consequence of killing Thaek I'd say. It wouldn't be very clever to let his family live who now hate Kim Jong Un's guts and could form a faction to overthrow him or at least attempt to. I don't think this particular case makes him a nutjob, more of a cold man who tries to consolidate his power as a sole ruler. It's a very backwards way of handling politics. It's something out of Machiavelli's The Prince. Since its inception as a country America has elected individuals as president. Originally the Vice President was meant to be the guy who got the second most votes. They didn't kill the person who got the second most votes and his families because they could pose a threat. | ||
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