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On January 16 2013 19:13 Bahku wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 19:03 AngryMag wrote:
You should stop that shit right now. Did it for some time, too. I didn't experience the high so much, I always got a slight headache after using it, so I decided to quit pretty quickly. I had no trouble quitting, but who knows what they throw into it nowadays. Our experiences might be with different substances.
If you have to do drug testing and you want to still get high from time to time, I would recommend GHB. Decomposition product is CO² and they don't test for it (even if they do, you are clean some hours after your last intake). High is quite smooth and comfortable.
If you do it I highely recommend not to do it too often. Quitting is a real bitch after some months of frequent consumption. Nervousness, loss of sleep until you are a walking zombie and anger management issues. You will be on high voltage until you reestablished good sleeping patterns (will take around 10-14 days). That almost sounds as bad as spice lol. If I'm desperate to get intoxicated, I guess I'll drink some booze or chug a bottle of cough syrup. If I want to smoke I'll have a cigarette. But I think you guys have scared me away from this shit. Thank you. Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 19:12 B.I.G. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people llike to talk about the drugs they use.. Especially pot smokers just love to talk about smoking and how much they and their friends do it.. I have to say that I find it pretty sad tbh.. It's just part of lifestyle. It's like a gamer talking about the games they play or how often they play them. It's something you do every day, and something you talk about every once in a while. Yes there are attention whores who talk about it for that reason, but most of the time it's just a legitimate discussion of a daily activity.
oh god I remember this group of guys back in high school that were about my age, that were to naive to realize that a lot of us were smoking up at that time, but when they finally discovered weed they wouldn't stop talking about how awesome it is and making "you should try it too man" comments all the time...
The worst part is that in a lot of cases people that don't know any better start believing thee people who brag about this kind of shit are the "real deal" while (at least where I'm from) the people who really do the dirt don't really like to talk about it..
It's one of my bigger frustrations in life I suppose.
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On January 16 2013 19:32 B.I.G. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 19:13 Bahku wrote:On January 16 2013 19:03 AngryMag wrote:
You should stop that shit right now. Did it for some time, too. I didn't experience the high so much, I always got a slight headache after using it, so I decided to quit pretty quickly. I had no trouble quitting, but who knows what they throw into it nowadays. Our experiences might be with different substances.
If you have to do drug testing and you want to still get high from time to time, I would recommend GHB. Decomposition product is CO² and they don't test for it (even if they do, you are clean some hours after your last intake). High is quite smooth and comfortable.
If you do it I highely recommend not to do it too often. Quitting is a real bitch after some months of frequent consumption. Nervousness, loss of sleep until you are a walking zombie and anger management issues. You will be on high voltage until you reestablished good sleeping patterns (will take around 10-14 days). That almost sounds as bad as spice lol. If I'm desperate to get intoxicated, I guess I'll drink some booze or chug a bottle of cough syrup. If I want to smoke I'll have a cigarette. But I think you guys have scared me away from this shit. Thank you. On January 16 2013 19:12 B.I.G. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people llike to talk about the drugs they use.. Especially pot smokers just love to talk about smoking and how much they and their friends do it.. I have to say that I find it pretty sad tbh.. It's just part of lifestyle. It's like a gamer talking about the games they play or how often they play them. It's something you do every day, and something you talk about every once in a while. Yes there are attention whores who talk about it for that reason, but most of the time it's just a legitimate discussion of a daily activity. oh god I remember this group of guys back in high school that were about my age, that were to naive to realize that a lot of us were smoking up at that time, but when they finally discovered weed they wouldn't stop talking about how awesome it is and making "you should try it too man" comments all the time... The worst part is that in a lot of cases people that don't know any better start believing thee people who brag about this kind of shit are the "real deal" while (at least where I'm from) the people who really do the dirt don't really like to talk about it.. It's one of my bigger frustrations in life I suppose.
Well then shouldn't you be keeping your classmates naivety and your all-pro stoner life knowledge to yourself instead of posting it on a public forum? Juuust kidding lol. When I was in highschool (now ~6 years ago in NYS suburb) mentioning or eluding to ones participation in illicit substance use was instant grounds for criticisms by a large majority of the students at the school.
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On January 16 2013 18:16 WedgeSTL wrote:
Edit: I have the flu any my brain is not working. I apologize for any cringe-inducing grammatical errors.
haha they were really bad :D
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One of my friend told me about a super powerful weed he had tried recently and I refused to believe it was just weed. Two weeks after it turns out it was "K2", but because synthetic weed is so uncommon in Shanghai he had no idea it even existed.
I absolutely do not see any advantage of synthetic weed vs real weed, so I am not even curious to try it.
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On January 16 2013 21:38 endy wrote:
One of my friend told me about a super powerful weed he had tried recently and I refused to believe it was just weed. Two weeks after it turns out it was "K2", but because synthetic weed is so uncommon in Shanghai he had no idea it even existed.
I absolutely do not see any advantage of synthetic weed vs real weed, so I am not even curious to try it.
Some users say it gets them more high. The blends I've used were usually less potent than weed though. But the main reasons for use are cost and legality.
Was this stuff sold to your friend as marijuana? If you catch the guy selling it, I say you should report him to the police.
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I've tried it, because of the hype and for awhile people were trying to convince me it was "better" than real weed. They were so wrong. It sucks and I hated it and it just falls on the list of shit I'll never do again ever.
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On January 16 2013 21:47 Bahku wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 21:38 endy wrote:
One of my friend told me about a super powerful weed he had tried recently and I refused to believe it was just weed. Two weeks after it turns out it was "K2", but because synthetic weed is so uncommon in Shanghai he had no idea it even existed.
I absolutely do not see any advantage of synthetic weed vs real weed, so I am not even curious to try it. Some users say it gets them more high. The blends I've used were usually less potent than weed though. But the main reasons for use are cost and legality. Was this stuff sold to your friend as marijuana? If you catch the guy selling it, I say you should report him to the police.
please,please dear friend. What shall he tell the police? "Mr.Police, my drug dealer didn't sell me the dope I wanted, but some other stuff instead."
Apart from that, snitching is really bad style. If there are differences, they shall be worked out with the dude directly.
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On January 16 2013 21:53 AngryMag wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 21:47 Bahku wrote:On January 16 2013 21:38 endy wrote:
One of my friend told me about a super powerful weed he had tried recently and I refused to believe it was just weed. Two weeks after it turns out it was "K2", but because synthetic weed is so uncommon in Shanghai he had no idea it even existed.
I absolutely do not see any advantage of synthetic weed vs real weed, so I am not even curious to try it. Some users say it gets them more high. The blends I've used were usually less potent than weed though. But the main reasons for use are cost and legality. Was this stuff sold to your friend as marijuana? If you catch the guy selling it, I say you should report him to the police. please,please dear friend. What shall he tell the police? "Mr.Police, my drug dealer didn't sell me the dope I wanted, but some other stuff instead." Apart from that, snitching is really bad style. If there are differences, they shall be worked out with the dude directly.
You tell the police "I'd like to report a drug dealer." It doesn't matter if they're selling flour as cocaine, it's still very illegal. As long as you don't have a pocket full of drugs when the police arrive, you can very much report someone for doing that without getting in trouble.
Ratting out a legitimate dealer is "snitching." If someone is selling spice and claiming it's weed, they're a scumbag poisoning people for money without their consent. And they belong in jail.
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On January 16 2013 22:06 Bahku wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 21:53 AngryMag wrote:On January 16 2013 21:47 Bahku wrote:On January 16 2013 21:38 endy wrote:
One of my friend told me about a super powerful weed he had tried recently and I refused to believe it was just weed. Two weeks after it turns out it was "K2", but because synthetic weed is so uncommon in Shanghai he had no idea it even existed.
I absolutely do not see any advantage of synthetic weed vs real weed, so I am not even curious to try it. Some users say it gets them more high. The blends I've used were usually less potent than weed though. But the main reasons for use are cost and legality. Was this stuff sold to your friend as marijuana? If you catch the guy selling it, I say you should report him to the police. please,please dear friend. What shall he tell the police? "Mr.Police, my drug dealer didn't sell me the dope I wanted, but some other stuff instead." Apart from that, snitching is really bad style. If there are differences, they shall be worked out with the dude directly. You tell the police "I'd like to report a drug dealer." It doesn't matter if they're selling flour as cocaine, it's still very illegal. As long as you don't have a pocket full of drugs when the police arrive, you can very much report someone for doing that without getting in trouble. Ratting out a legitimate dealer is "snitching." If someone is selling spice and claiming it's weed, they're a scumbag poisoning people for money without their consent. And they belong in jail.
Capital punishment in the People's Republic of China is usually administered to offenders of serious and violent crimes, such as aggravated murder, but China retains in law a number of nonviolent capital offenses such as drug trafficking.
That's relevant as he's in Shanghai :D
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On January 16 2013 21:47 Bahku wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 21:38 endy wrote:
One of my friend told me about a super powerful weed he had tried recently and I refused to believe it was just weed. Two weeks after it turns out it was "K2", but because synthetic weed is so uncommon in Shanghai he had no idea it even existed.
I absolutely do not see any advantage of synthetic weed vs real weed, so I am not even curious to try it. Some users say it gets them more high. The blends I've used were usually less potent than weed though. But the main reasons for use are cost and legality. Was this stuff sold to your friend as marijuana? If you catch the guy selling it, I say you should report him to the police.
K2 is bought easily on taobao.com, some sort of Chinese hybrid of Ebay and Amazon. It's advertised as incense obviously.
On January 16 2013 22:36 ulan-bat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 22:06 Bahku wrote:On January 16 2013 21:53 AngryMag wrote:On January 16 2013 21:47 Bahku wrote:On January 16 2013 21:38 endy wrote:
One of my friend told me about a super powerful weed he had tried recently and I refused to believe it was just weed. Two weeks after it turns out it was "K2", but because synthetic weed is so uncommon in Shanghai he had no idea it even existed.
I absolutely do not see any advantage of synthetic weed vs real weed, so I am not even curious to try it. Some users say it gets them more high. The blends I've used were usually less potent than weed though. But the main reasons for use are cost and legality. Was this stuff sold to your friend as marijuana? If you catch the guy selling it, I say you should report him to the police. please,please dear friend. What shall he tell the police? "Mr.Police, my drug dealer didn't sell me the dope I wanted, but some other stuff instead." Apart from that, snitching is really bad style. If there are differences, they shall be worked out with the dude directly. You tell the police "I'd like to report a drug dealer." It doesn't matter if they're selling flour as cocaine, it's still very illegal. As long as you don't have a pocket full of drugs when the police arrive, you can very much report someone for doing that without getting in trouble. Ratting out a legitimate dealer is "snitching." If someone is selling spice and claiming it's weed, they're a scumbag poisoning people for money without their consent. And they belong in jail. Show nested quote +Capital punishment in the People's Republic of China is usually administered to offenders of serious and violent crimes, such as aggravated murder, but China retains in law a number of nonviolent capital offenses such as drug trafficking. That's relevant as he's in Shanghai :D
Well the punishment is extremely harsh for traffickers, but they don't enforce simple marijuana smoking here. Huge majority of cops can't even recognize the smell of someone smoking weed. My previous apartment was above a police station and I often smoked weed at the balcony.
However if cops have a way to know you smoke weed, they will try to blackmail you and ask you to pay a huge fine otherwise threatening you to cancel your visa and deport you back to your country. If you happen to meet a zealous cop he will actually report you and you will likely get away with it because they can't press serious charges unless you are caught carrying over 25 grams.
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On January 16 2013 23:06 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 21:47 Bahku wrote:On January 16 2013 21:38 endy wrote:
One of my friend told me about a super powerful weed he had tried recently and I refused to believe it was just weed. Two weeks after it turns out it was "K2", but because synthetic weed is so uncommon in Shanghai he had no idea it even existed.
I absolutely do not see any advantage of synthetic weed vs real weed, so I am not even curious to try it. Some users say it gets them more high. The blends I've used were usually less potent than weed though. But the main reasons for use are cost and legality. Was this stuff sold to your friend as marijuana? If you catch the guy selling it, I say you should report him to the police. K2 can is bought easily on taobao.com, some sort of Chinese hybrid of Ebay and Amazon. It's advertised as incense obviously.
Ah. You said your friend thought it was weed so I thought maybe a dealer had ripped him/her off.
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On January 16 2013 17:37 Bahku wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 17:28 hoby2000 wrote:On January 16 2013 14:42 CursOr wrote:
The tests for MJ test for many other cannaboids that stay in the system much longer than THC.
I smoked Marijuana for many years, but after I stopped I realized that the worst part about it was that it made me so damn content to just do nothing with my life. I was too lazy, messed up college real bad, and had no job/ or crappy jobs- and after I put it away, I started actually doing things. How crazy is that? Not that crazy. All you did was attach your marijuana use with irresponsibility, so when you threw out marijuana, of course you felt like you were doing more. What you're completely ignoring is the fact that you had complete control of what you were doing while stoned. Don't blame marijuana because you're a lazy ass hole. Blame yourself. Slow down there cowboy, you're suggesting that drugs don't impair judgement. That's obviously not true. I'm not saying people shouldn't be responsible for their own actions, but don't pretend that marijuana doesn't affect behavior.
I've been under the influence of a lot of drugs. Mushrooms impair my judgement. Alcohol impairs my judgement. Marijuana does not impair my judgement at all unless you're talking about the fact that I've smoked weed which changed how I viewed the world when I found out something that was supposed to be horrendously evil wasn't.
I will honestly say that every other drug impairs my judgement, but if you really think Marijuana does, then you're probably just fucked up in the head to begin with. People who act different while they're drunk or stoned or around certain groups of people are afraid of being themselves, and only express themselves when they have something to blame externally. It's not the drugs that makes people crazy - it's people that make themselves crazy because they can't accept themselves or reality for what it is.
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Marijuana definatly effects ones judgement and the ability to see and understand complicated situations clearly.
You have probably been under influence for such a long time that it is verry difficult to see a difference, one day non smoking weed wont make you feel better, infact you feel worse and have the feeling you see situations less clearly because of withdraw effects.
You should try not smoke weed for 1 month and your ability to judge situations will improve dramatically.
Annyway:never tried this synthetic weed nor will i ever, cant imagine it will be annywhere close to realy good weed.
Chemicals are just bad,good weed tastes so nice, no chemicals can replace that ever (not to mention the negative health effects)
Did try guarana once (not sure about the spelling) they sell it here in headshops suposedly as an alternative for xtc but i found it complete crap and gave me a headache (good weed never ever gives a headache).
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On January 17 2013 02:10 Rassy wrote:
Marijuana definatly effects ones judgement and the ability to see and understand complicated situations clearly.
You have probably been under influence for such a long time that it is verry difficult to see a difference, one day non smoking weed wont make you feel better, infact you feel worse and have the feeling you see situations less clearly because of withdraw effects.
You should try not smoke weed for 1 month and your ability to judge situations will improve dramatically.
Annyway:never tried this synthetic weed nor will i ever, cant imagine it will be annywhere close to realy good weed.
Chemicals are just bad,good weed tastes so nice, no chemicals can replace that ever (not to mention the negative health effects)
Did try guarana once (not sure about the spelling) they sell it here in headshops suposedly as an alternative for xtc but i found it complete crap and gave me a headache (good weed never ever gives a headache).
I was thinking the same thing about impaired judgement from marijuana. If you don't feel it's affecting you then you probably have a
habit of smoking too often. You also edited out the best part of your post :D 10/10
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On January 16 2013 17:28 hoby2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 14:42 CursOr wrote:
The tests for MJ test for many other cannaboids that stay in the system much longer than THC.
I smoked Marijuana for many years, but after I stopped I realized that the worst part about it was that it made me so damn content to just do nothing with my life. I was too lazy, messed up college real bad, and had no job/ or crappy jobs- and after I put it away, I started actually doing things. How crazy is that? Not that crazy. All you did was attach your marijuana use with irresponsibility, so when you threw out marijuana, of course you felt like you were doing more. What you're completely ignoring is the fact that you had complete control of what you were doing while stoned. Don't blame marijuana because you're a lazy ass hole. Blame yourself.
+1 for truth
I am really curious as to what kinds of spice we're talking about with some of these experiences and the amounts we're talking about. I had individual bad experiences when I did it (the first generation blends) but also had some awesome experiences too.
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A guy I knew recently died from using synthetic
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On January 17 2013 02:41 Slakkoo wrote:
A guy I knew recently died from using synthetic
Care to share how? I know it can damage your cardiovascular systems but I never heard of a confirmed case of death by synthetics beyond accidents and suicide.
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On January 17 2013 02:42 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 02:41 Slakkoo wrote:
A guy I knew recently died from using synthetic Care to share how? I know it can damage your cardiovascular systems but I never heard of a confirmed case of death by synthetics beyond accidents and suicide.
Im not sure really, but I knew he ordered online synthetic stuff and one day they found him on the floor dead. I can try to dig up more, but I doubt anyone likes to talk about it atm :/
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On January 17 2013 03:19 Slakkoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 02:42 heliusx wrote:On January 17 2013 02:41 Slakkoo wrote:
A guy I knew recently died from using synthetic Care to share how? I know it can damage your cardiovascular systems but I never heard of a confirmed case of death by synthetics beyond accidents and suicide. Im not sure really, but I knew he ordered online synthetic stuff and one day they found him on the floor dead. I can try to dig up more, but I doubt anyone likes to talk about it atm :/
fair enough. i know the stuff is bad and i was just curious about what it may have caused. a big problem with the stuff i believe is the impurities that can be pretty nasty when combusted.
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I'd just throw some warheads in a blender with a bottle of Fleischmann's and drink that shit.
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