EPTis this just purely to dodge drug tests that test for THC?
never heard of anybody coming across this stuff where i live. wikipedia time.
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anycolourfloyd
Australia524 Posts
is this just purely to dodge drug tests that test for THC? never heard of anybody coming across this stuff where i live. wikipedia time. | ||
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sertman
United States540 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:00 Za7oX wrote: Just do other things to keep you preoccupied. Exercise, think about eating healthy and remind yourself how terrible fake weed is for you. the comedown is fucking awful from spice. a spice high takes your temple and grips it like crazy... you're perfectly content to just sit there and feel the feeling. the way i describe it compared to weed is that weed takes you to the clouds on a balloon. spice basically flips on a switch that says "you're extremely high now." it doesn't feel natural, it feels fake and because of that feels better. however what goes up must come down. the comedown from spice feels like the most excruciating painful boredom you've ever had in your life and it gets worse and worse the longer you use spice. you know how when you're bored, it feels like your temple is expanding? (which is why people when they're bored rest their chin on the palms of their hands and push inward on their temple with their fingertips) it's that times 10. you feel every second. and you just develop a nasty craving for more. i used to take apart my keyboard just to find crumbs that had gotten to the bottom. we're talking seriously pathetic behavior here. and yet i STILL think about buying some off the internet every few days or so, even though i'm back in school, acing classes, and generally living a much more highly functional, happy life. i know all the consequences but i'd love to take one more ride. so it's not simple as do other things, you don't have the presence of mind to do anything else but get more spice. at least that's my experience, maybe other people have had less intense experiences. | ||
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
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`dunedain
657 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:06 sertman wrote: the comedown is fucking awful from spice. a spice high takes your temple and grips it like crazy... you're perfectly content to just sit there and feel the feeling. the way i describe it compared to weed is that weed takes you to the clouds on a balloon. spice basically flips on a switch that says "you're extremely high now." it doesn't feel natural, it feels fake and because of that feels better. however what must come up must come down. the comedown from spice feels like the most excruciating painful boredom you've ever had in your life and it gets worse and worse the longer you use spice. you know how when you're bored, it feels like your temple is expanding? (which is why people when they're bored rest their chin on the palms of their hands and push inward on their temple with their fingertips) it's that times 10. you feel every second. and you just develop a nasty craving for more. i used to take apart my keyboard just to find crumbs that had gotten to the bottom. we're talking seriously pathetic behavior here. and yet i STILL think about buying some off the internet every few days or so, even though i'm back in school, acing classes, and generally living a much more highly functional, happy life. i know all the consequences but i'd love to take one more ride. so it's not simple as do other things, you don't have the presence of mind to do anything else but get more spice. at least that's my experience, maybe other people have had less intense experiences. Shit bro, that sounds fucked up! | ||
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Bahku
United States182 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:04 anycolourfloyd wrote: i'm surprised that any of them are legal. in australia, all analogues of all psychoactive drugs are theoretically illegal before even being discovered. is this just purely to dodge drug tests that test for THC? never heard of anybody coming across this stuff where i live. wikipedia time. That's interesting that there exists such a policy, in the U.S. they're trying to make it illegal whenever it pops up, but it just takes way too long. I don't see why they can't have a similar system to yours. Spice is really used for three reasons: drug tests, it's way cheaper than weed (like 1% of the price if we're talking expensive weed), and if you can't get ahold of a dealer. I've used it for all three reasons, but the only thing that's caused me (and people I know) to binge constantly on it is the threat of drug tests. On January 16 2013 16:06 sertman wrote: i used to take apart my keyboard just to find crumbs that had gotten to the bottom. we're talking seriously pathetic behavior here. I lol'd out loud reading this. Because just the other day I lifted up my keyboard and swept up all the black shit underneath it (most was spice resin from putting a joint there) and put it in a bowl. So gross. | ||
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:04 anycolourfloyd wrote: i'm surprised that any of them are legal. in australia, all analogues of all psychoactive drugs are theoretically illegal before even being discovered. is this just purely to dodge drug tests that test for THC? never heard of anybody coming across this stuff where i live. wikipedia time. The government bans them and then a few weeks later the companies concoct a new compound and sell it until they ban the new version. | ||
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ECHOZs
United States499 Posts
One other legal high was from kratom. Its a herb from asia that some people thinks helps with opium withdraw. My one local head shop owner is all about the stuff and is always trying different herbal combinations. He was always against the use of synthetics and would never sell them in his store. | ||
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AFKing
128 Posts
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Bahku
United States182 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:09 corpuscle wrote: Damn, shit must have changed since I tried it (or the brand I was using was shitty), from the accounts I'm reading here. I had 5 friends that were smoking spice consistently for six months, and all of them stopped immediately once they were off of testing, and didn't have any adverse side effects while they were using or when they stopped... does anyone know if they've changed their formula or anything in the past few years? The time I tried it was early 2007, I think the brand was Spice Gold or Platinum or something like that. It came in little shiny bags, and there was this eye-type logo on it. That's very true. Even when I've been using it daily, as soon as drug testing ended it's very easy to drop it and just start smoking weed again. Your body can probably tell the difference and it maybe somewhat wants spice instead, but for some reason it's way easier to shrug it off if you have some herbs. It's probably because, like Sertman said, the need to do more feels like unbearable boredom. But actual marijuana helps get rid of that symptom and go about your business. | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
God knows what smoking that shit does to your lungs, cancer of the lungs from smoking it is a real possibility. It's garbage and I wouldn't wish that addiction on an enemy. Not to mention with every ban comes a new compound which is usually more dangerous than the last. It also ruins natural marijuana highs, weed won't ever be the same for you and will probably be uncomfortable. | ||
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Uni1987
Netherlands642 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:16 Bahku wrote: That's very true. Even when I've been using it daily, as soon as drug testing ended it's very easy to drop it and just start smoking weed again. Your body can probably tell the difference and it maybe somewhat wants spice instead, but for some reason it's way easier to shrug it off if you have some herbs. It's probably because, like Sertman said, the need to do more feels like unbearable boredom. But actual marijuana helps get rid of that symptom and go about your business. Although it may help, i'm not sure if taking one drug to break from another is the best option. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
I know i got to going down the road and started hallucinating and tripping balls, all my friends that smoke the "legal weed" all hallucinate off of it. After that i quit smoking pot for good, id take an entire night of throwing up from drinking that going back to hallucinating again. | ||
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Bahku
United States182 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:20 Uni1987 wrote: Although it may help, i'm not sure if taking one drug to break from another is the best option. Absolutely, I do want to quit using marijuana eventually. But I want to do it ON MY OWN. Maybe where I can gradually decrease usage until I'm happy with it or stop completely. Being forced to quit immediately probably has something to do with the spice canisters littered all over the sidewalks and streets. Regardless, hopefully I can just use this as an opportunity to quit both completely. I don't ever really want to quit weed 100%, but I'd love to learn to use it sparingly and wisely. | ||
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sertman
United States540 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:26 Bahku wrote: Absolutely, I do want to quit using marijuana eventually. But I want to do it ON MY OWN. Maybe where I can gradually decrease usage until I'm happy with it or stop completely. Being forced to quit immediately probably has something to do with the spice canisters littered all over the sidewalks and streets. Regardless, hopefully I can just use this as an opportunity to quit both completely. I don't ever really want to quit weed 100%, but I'd love to learn to use it sparingly and wisely. you can get there. even though i had a very intense addiction to spice i've now moved to a point in my life where i can use weed sparingly without being addicted to it. it wasn't really a learning process, more of a natural change of priorities when i went back to school and adopting a different way of picturing myself. in order to do that though i had to move completely away from where i was living before... after getting kicked off my lease i moved back in with my parents 6 hours and several states away. it's illegal in my state now so nobody sells it but i still look around every gas station i'm in to see if they sell it lol. i don't even do it consciously, it's an instinct deep within my mind. | ||
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ChApFoU
France2986 Posts
Prohibition is wonderful ^^ | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:26 Bahku wrote: Absolutely, I do want to quit using marijuana eventually. But I want to do it ON MY OWN. Maybe where I can gradually decrease usage until I'm happy with it or stop completely. Being forced to quit immediately probably has something to do with the spice canisters littered all over the sidewalks and streets. Regardless, hopefully I can just use this as an opportunity to quit both completely. I don't ever really want to quit weed 100%, but I'd love to learn to use it sparingly and wisely. As someone who "quit" about a year ago (I still smoke, but it's something like once every 2-3 months), it's definitely worth it, and you should really try whenever you're in a place where you're ready. Weed is good in the sense that it doesn't have any significant withdrawal effects, so the only things you have to struggle through when quitting is the psychological stuff. | ||
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Bahku
United States182 Posts
On January 16 2013 17:10 corpuscle wrote: As someone who "quit" about a year ago (I still smoke, but it's something like once every 2-3 months), it's definitely worth it, and you should really try whenever you're in a place where you're ready. Weed is good in the sense that it doesn't have any significant withdrawal effects, so the only things you have to struggle through when quitting is the psychological stuff. That would be great. I imagine it would be a lot more enjoyable that way, since your tolerance should be zero, and you should be able to afford only the dankest of the dank when you use that rarely :p However, if I it some day after quitting for 3 months, and find that it's difficult to get through the day without smoking it, hopefully I'll have learned my lesson from previous years and know to just drop it completely. | ||
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hoby2000
United States918 Posts
On January 16 2013 14:42 CursOr wrote: The tests for MJ test for many other cannaboids that stay in the system much longer than THC. I smoked Marijuana for many years, but after I stopped I realized that the worst part about it was that it made me so damn content to just do nothing with my life. I was too lazy, messed up college real bad, and had no job/ or crappy jobs- and after I put it away, I started actually doing things. How crazy is that? Not that crazy. All you did was attach your marijuana use with irresponsibility, so when you threw out marijuana, of course you felt like you were doing more. What you're completely ignoring is the fact that you had complete control of what you were doing while stoned. Don't blame marijuana because you're a lazy ass hole. Blame yourself. | ||
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