No, they're really, really bad for you, dude. You're much better off doing many other recreational drugs. Amphetamine is much safer and so is moderate amounts of cocaine or ecstasy. Weed is obviously better for you than the synthetic stuff.

Shai

Canada806 Posts

January 24 2013 03:04 GMT

#182

On January 24 2013 11:50 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:

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Bahku, do you realize that sugar does what you're talking about? That food does what you're talking about? That money does what you're talking about? (http://blogs.hbr.org/schwartz/2010/10/dopes-and-dopamine-the-problem.html) Computer games and facebook do this, too.

There's clearly a difference between types of drugs, as well. An amphetamine does not have anywhere near the same effect as an opiate/narcotic. A psychedelic doesn't do anything like a barbiturate. A tricyclic antidepressant doesn't work anything like caffeine. THC* is totally different from other drugs in a qualitative sense, as well.

I'm just saying that it's really important to be very specific as to what we're talking about for the purposes of discussion. That's just the social scientist in me. I like to start out by clearly defining what I'm talking about so that everyone can be on the same page.

Kind of silly to compare sensory inputs causing natural changes in brain chemistry to compounds which change your brain/blood chemistry in ways that, generally speaking, don't happen naturally. Yes, they both affect your view of the world and your emotional state, but they're still apples and oranges (which are both fruit, but behave differently).

Marcus420

Canada1923 Posts

January 24 2013 03:08 GMT

#183

On January 24 2013 12:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:

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I agree completely, but i dont like the scare tactic approach the video takes.

I've actually done mephedrone which is mentioned in this video alot.

Its very speedy and a little bit of empathy. If you do it a few times you can feel yourself going a bit crazy

I only did it a couple times and vowed to never touch RC's again (research chemicals)

Theres literally so many kinds of these things

heres another i bought. I was so stupid.

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docvoc

United States5491 Posts

January 24 2013 03:10 GMT

#184

I think the point of this thread has pretty much come down to this

Synthetics are bad for you
People in here disagree on what constitutes a drug
Synthetics are really bad for you
People in here disagree on whether or not a drug holding entity is a drug itself
Synthetics are really fucking bad for you

am I somewhat accurate here? I don't understand why we aren't talking about synthetics anymore, other than the fact that I think we have established they are very bad for you, and now we are discussing what consitutes a drug. I think that deserves another thread all by itself though :/.

BlueRoyaL

United States2493 Posts

January 24 2013 03:33 GMT

#185

so they release a new one instantly after the gov bans the current ones. so my question is, how many different variants can they come up with? Is there an almost infinite number of variants they can make (as in, this stuff is never going away)?

Marcus420

Canada1923 Posts

January 24 2013 03:47 GMT

#186

heres a few ^

you can see by the names how you can get many similar(and some not) chemicals by making small changes

Im sure you can find a list of all the known ones..

pyrogenetix

China5098 Posts

January 24 2013 03:49 GMT

#187

We are talking about Spice and other similar products right?

Read up on erowid that most of them are just scam products where they have a huge mix of exotic crap and then sprinkle in synthetic THC powder.

Tried some Spice Gold before, really heavy indica reaction for me. Wasn't really worth it so never went back for more.

Marcus420

Canada1923 Posts

January 24 2013 03:55 GMT

#188

On January 24 2013 12:49 pyrogenetix wrote:
We are talking about Spice and other similar products right?

Read up on erowid that most of them are just scam products where they have a huge mix of exotic crap and then sprinkle in synthetic THC powder.

Tried some Spice Gold before, really heavy indica reaction for me. Wasn't really worth it so never went back for more.

Generally the weed replicas are the least worst of the offenders..

its the speed, coke, mdma replacement ones that are the worst.

They really mess with your heart rate, and doing them enough can make you a bit/very psychotic.

Nub4ever

Canada1981 Posts

January 24 2013 03:59 GMT

#189

Drugs, an interesting thing that has always sparked my curiosity. I often wonder and am tempted. Not gonna lie though, I wouldn't ever trust myself with any of it... I can't even control myself enough to do homework sometimes. How the fuck am I going to control the use of an addictive drug .-.

In any case, I'd take marijuana over that stuff.

gurglejubilant

1 Post

August 30 2018 15:06 GMT

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ThunderJunk

United States711 Posts

August 30 2018 18:32 GMT

#191

This is just as relevant as ever. This stuff is legitimately deadly.

With the rise of CBD, synthetic CBD alternatives are creeping their way into the market.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5aaa8c1e12b13f9aecc183e2/t/5b5a68ca562fa7e5abffba07/1532651724299/Synthetic Versus Natural CBD.pdf

selinacantrell

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May 03 2019 00:33 GMT

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CleoFuller

1 Post

June 26 2020 23:41 GMT

#193

Don't worry about that. As example my doctor prescribed me to use CBD, to reduce pain and insomnia. Such product has really good points to use not just for fun, but in medal way as well. So once again don't worry, i am pretty sure you have great sleep and you feel yourself fresh when you woke up. Part of my family as well is using some cbd flowers. The most important is to find best cbd hemp vendors, where you will be sure that you will buy good products, where is different sorts. I was able to find one for myself.

jacobsor

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June 29 2020 17:20 GMT

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Mohdoo

United States15723 Posts

June 29 2020 19:58 GMT

#195

I feel like there is enough information out there showing how bad synthetic cannabis is. It seems weird for this to be a thread on TL.