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16 year old is brain damaged from smoking "synthetic marijuana"
Synthetic Cannabis Thread - Page 7
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On January 17 2013 01:52 hoby2000 wrote: I've been under the influence of a lot of drugs. Mushrooms impair my judgement. Alcohol impairs my judgement. Marijuana does not impair my judgement at all unless you're talking about the fact that I've smoked weed which changed how I viewed the world when I found out something that was supposed to be horrendously evil wasn't. I will honestly say that every other drug impairs my judgement, but if you really think Marijuana does, then you're probably just fucked up in the head to begin with. People who act different while they're drunk or stoned or around certain groups of people are afraid of being themselves, and only express themselves when they have something to blame externally. It's not the drugs that makes people crazy - it's people that make themselves crazy because they can't accept themselves or reality for what it is. Would you concede the fact that marijuana "alters" your judgement? What you are trying to tell us is that weed doesn't change how you think in any way and that's indicative of personal bias more than anything. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On January 17 2013 07:38 heliusx wrote: I sincerely doubt those bags of synthetic cannabinoids coming out of "labs" in china and india are anything close to "pure". Actually, the purest drugs you can get on the market right now are from labs in china. There was a while where the US was putting out quality stuff but the government has cracked down on it pretty hard within the past 2 years. On January 17 2013 03:33 Pulimuli wrote: wut? a friend of mine has smoked this for years and he's fine, ive smoked it myself alot of times and im also fine - in fact i know at least 5 people who has smoked huuuuge amounts of this and they are still alive and not having any side effects from it. Synthetic cannabis is usually stronger than normal natural cannabis, it tastes a bit differently though - effects are exactly the same from my experience. Only that synthetics pack a bit more punch and you will feel it faster I've shot heroin into my arms a bunch of times and I don't see at all how it is possible to die or overdose from it. Do you see the point I'm making? | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
On January 17 2013 07:57 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Actually, the purest drugs you can get on the market right now are from labs in china. There was a while where the US was putting out quality stuff but the government has cracked down on it pretty hard within the past 2 years. I've shot heroin into my arms a bunch of times and I don't see at all how it is possible to die or overdose from it. Do you see the point I'm making? This is not a definitive thing. Some places have better local access than others. Also, you forgot about India. | ||
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Amityville
United States36 Posts
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CaptainInsano
Canada6 Posts
In all seriousness though, smoke the real stuff, you're just asking for trouble with synthetic drugs. ^^ lol snapping a 3g bowl of anything will mess you up, purely from oxygen deprivation. | ||
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Reason
United Kingdom2770 Posts
I'm quoting the boobs argument for precedent. I've tried a few crazy ass research chemicals but honestly I'd never heard of this and I don't intend to try it, ever. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On January 17 2013 03:33 Pulimuli wrote: wut? a friend of mine has smoked this for years and he's fine, ive smoked it myself alot of times and im also fine - in fact i know at least 5 people who has smoked huuuuge amounts of this and they are still alive and not having any side effects from it. Synthetic cannabis is usually stronger than normal natural cannabis, it tastes a bit differently though - effects are exactly the same from my experience. Only that synthetics pack a bit more punch and you will feel it faster There's no way this is true. Synthetic cannabis scientifically cannot cause a high like normal cannabis, all it does is fire up your cannabinoid receptors iirc but that doesn't mean you are high. At best it stops cravings. | ||
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Bahku
United States182 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:52 hoby2000 wrote: I will honestly say that every other drug impairs my judgement, but if you really think Marijuana does, then you're probably just fucked up in the head to begin with. Oh dear. Am I getting paid for this? Because I'm doing the job that your elementary teachers and counselors seemed to neglect. You see, when you inhale cannabis smoke, cannabinoids are filtered through your cannabinoid receptors in the human brain. This affects the brain on a physical level. The human brain is the source of all of your judgement. Altering it physically alters your judgement. You seem to be tragically uneducated if you think people use weed for the taste. It's a drug, and it makes you act differently. I can't believe you're arguing with well-known facts. I'm not even the slightest bit anti-marijuana, but it's just obvious. | ||
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
Natural /= good for you. | ||
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Amityville
United States36 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:59 Fyrewolf wrote: The whole marijuana is natural(and therefore okay) argument goes beyond being silly into the domain of stupidity. Poison sumac is natural, and inhaling smoke from that plant can be fatal. I do think regular marijuana is alright and not terrible for you (unlike these synthetic designer drugs, which are often terrible for you), but that reasoning just makes me cringe. Natural /= good for you. I agree the natural arguement is a silly one. Poison Ivy is natural too im not going to go roll around in it. There are so many things you can point to that shows marijuana is harmless. The fact that its natural is not one of them. | ||
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Bahku
United States182 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:59 Fyrewolf wrote: The whole marijuana is natural(and therefore okay) argument goes beyond being silly into the domain of stupidity. Poison sumac is natural, and inhaling smoke from that plant can be fatal. I do think regular marijuana is alright and not terrible for you (unlike these synthetic designer drugs, which are often terrible for you), but that reasoning just makes me cringe. Natural /= good for you. I hate it when people argue "it's a plant, not a drug." Ok. And cocaine is a powder, not a drug. And an ak-47 is a piece of metal, not a weapon. Since when are "plant" and "drug" mutually exclusive terms? | ||
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almart
United States114 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:59 Fyrewolf wrote: The whole marijuana is natural(and therefore okay) argument goes beyond being silly into the domain of stupidity. Poison sumac is natural, and inhaling smoke from that plant can be fatal. I do think regular marijuana is alright and not terrible for you (unlike these synthetic designer drugs, which are often terrible for you), but that reasoning just makes me cringe. Natural /= good for you. That argument isn't really up in the forefront on why people argue for the legalization of Marijuana, there are many other reasons on why Marijuana should be a legal drug to be used. I agree that saying something is natural means it is beneficial for you, I just rarely hear it being used seriously. I think these designer drugs are just extremely ridiculous to use though because of the fact that there has been no scientific research on the long term effects and they are just plain dangerous. | ||
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Amityville
United States36 Posts
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liberal
1116 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:59 Fyrewolf wrote: The whole marijuana is natural(and therefore okay) argument goes beyond being silly into the domain of stupidity. Poison sumac is natural, and inhaling smoke from that plant can be fatal. I do think regular marijuana is alright and not terrible for you (unlike these synthetic designer drugs, which are often terrible for you), but that reasoning just makes me cringe. Natural /= good for you. Yes, I cringe when I read this too. I wrote a multi-paragraph rant on this very issue but deleted it instead of posting. It is an unjustified prejudice people have. | ||
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ECHOZs
United States499 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:59 Fyrewolf wrote: The whole marijuana is natural(and therefore okay) argument goes beyond being silly into the domain of stupidity. Poison sumac is natural, and inhaling smoke from that plant can be fatal. I do think regular marijuana is alright and not terrible for you (unlike these synthetic designer drugs, which are often terrible for you), but that reasoning just makes me cringe. Natural /= good for you. Yeah I agree. All drugs are just a way to manipulate brain chemicals like serotonin, endorphin etc doesn't make a difference where it comes from. | ||
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Bahku
United States182 Posts
On January 17 2013 09:08 almart wrote: That argument isn't really up in the forefront on why people argue for the legalization of Marijuana, there are many other reasons on why Marijuana should be a legal drug to be used. I agree that saying something is natural means it is beneficial for you, I just rarely hear it being used seriously. I think these designer drugs are just extremely ridiculous to use though because of the fact that there has been no scientific research on the long term effects and they are just plain dangerous. I was watching some more episodes of "Drugs Inc," and the comments section is packed full of people using that silly argument. It gets on my nerves. If you wanna argue that marijuana should be legal and is relatively harmless, you're on very concrete grounds. But once you throw in fallacious arguments like "it's a plant" or "it doesn't affect your judgement in any way," you just make marijuana supporters look bad. @Liberal: Should have posted your rant :p I would've read it. | ||
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almart
United States114 Posts
On January 17 2013 09:15 Bahku wrote: I was watching some more episodes of "Drugs Inc," and the comments section is packed full of people using that silly argument. It gets on my nerves. If you wanna argue that marijuana should be legal and is relatively harmless, you're on very concrete grounds. But once you throw in fallacious arguments like "it's a plant" or "it doesn't affect your judgement in any way," you just make marijuana supporters look bad. @Liberal: Should have posted your rant :p I would've read it. Yeah totally agree, both sides should really research what they are advocating for before they make themselves look like a fool. That goes for every argument anyways. | ||
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ailouros
United States193 Posts
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
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