EPTPeta against Pokemon? - Page 10
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Glaceau
Wales333 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
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Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
On October 10 2012 00:16 Glaceau wrote: I grew up on pokemon and I love animals, beacause if you actually play the fucking game pokemon is about forming friendship and trust with them. (Just to play the devil's advocate) I grew up fighting dogs, and I love animals, because if you actually fight dogs, its about forming friendship and trust with them. I did (and embarrassingly still do) play pokemon, and love the game, but PETA isn't trying to say you shouldn't play pokemon. They're saying that the way pokemon are treated would be terrible if it was done in real life, and that it is indeed done in real life with real animals. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
If we accept PETAs premise, we are in a world where certain animals have essentially super powers, a pokeball is a clever thing, the pokemon aren't uncomfortable inside them... ffs the ball is about 1/20th the size of even some of the smallest pokemon...... surely they understand that ITS NOT REAL. Pokemon actually encourages you to treat pets well, if you don't they get unhappy and don't fight well. | ||
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Glaceau
Wales333 Posts
On October 10 2012 00:19 Tewks44 wrote: (Just to play the devil's advocate) I grew up fighting dogs, and I love animals, because if you actually fight dogs, its about forming friendship and trust with them. I did (and embarrassingly still do) play pokemon, and love the game, but PETA isn't trying to say you shouldn't play pokemon. They're saying that the way pokemon are treated would be terrible if it was done in real life, and that it is indeed done in real life with real animals. well this is the part where I inform your devil's advocate that pokemon is not real. Nothing more needs to be said, if you can't tell the difference, you are a piece of shit like PETA. User was banned for this post. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On October 10 2012 00:19 Tewks44 wrote: (Just to play the devil's advocate) I grew up fighting dogs, and I love animals, because if you actually fight dogs, its about forming friendship and trust with them. I did (and embarrassingly still do) play pokemon, and love the game, but PETA isn't trying to say you shouldn't play pokemon. They're saying that the way pokemon are treated would be terrible if it was done in real life, and that it is indeed done in real life with real animals. Yes but thats the thing, its not real life. No one ever played pokemon and then tried to stuff their cat in a little ball and expect it to not bite them... ok well someone probably did but anyone with half a brain wouldn't do it. | ||
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Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
On October 10 2012 00:21 Glaceau wrote: well this is the part where I inform your devil's advocate that pokemon is not real. Nothing more needs to be said, if you can't tell the difference, you are a piece of shit like PETA. I think you missed my point. PETA is not saying you shouldn't play pokemon because pokemon are real creatures and suffer because your gameboy is an Ender's Game like device that control real animals. They're saying that if pokemon were real it would be clear animal abuse, and in some cases animals in the real world are treated like pokemon are treated in the fictional world. | ||
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forestry
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forgotten0ne
United States951 Posts
I mean just look at the fishing they stopped by calling the fish "Sea Kittens"! ... Wait | ||
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Arghmyliver
United States1077 Posts
On October 10 2012 00:26 Tewks44 wrote: I think you missed my point. PETA is not saying you shouldn't play pokemon because pokemon are real creatures and suffer because your gameboy is an Ender's Game like device that control real animals. They're saying that if pokemon were real it would be clear animal abuse, and in some cases animals in the real world are treated like pokemon are treated in the fictional world. But how do they know that? I think one of the premises of Pokemon is that they aren't like real animals. How many animal species are you aware of that can transform into a red light/gas and compress into a tiny sphere? We don't even really know what goes on in there - only that they can rest. If Pokemon were real involving real animals without an extensive modification of their physical properties then yes might be abusive - but then - half of action movies would be highly immoral if they were real. Harry Potter would have been a genocide. The main point is that it's fiction. The second main point is - within the universe of the fiction, respectful and caring treatment of Pokemon is promoted. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7298 Posts
On October 10 2012 00:26 Tewks44 wrote: I think you missed my point. PETA is not saying you shouldn't play pokemon because pokemon are real creatures and suffer because your gameboy is an Ender's Game like device that control real animals. They're saying that if pokemon were real it would be clear animal abuse, and in some cases animals in the real world are treated like pokemon are treated in the fictional world. If Pokemon was real, HUMANITY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE GONE EXTINCT, I mean they are giant ultra-powered beasts of death. Its not even a remotely sane comparison because Pokemon defies reality in so many ways. And like I said, PETA making the comparison between Pokemon and animal abuse is just idiocy, mostly because of the way they approach it. They approach it like an attention whore. If they focused on the legitimate issue of animal abuse and didn't parody popular children's games then maybe their messages would be taken even mildly seriously, but I think at this point they don't expect anyone to take them seriously, all they seem to want is to garner some attention to themselves. Shit, read DarkPlasmaBalls post in this thread, PETA is really in no position to be parodying Pokemon. | ||
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EffervescentAureola
United States410 Posts
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Comogury
United States412 Posts
On October 10 2012 00:26 Tewks44 wrote: I think you missed my point. PETA is not saying you shouldn't play pokemon because pokemon are real creatures and suffer because your gameboy is an Ender's Game like device that control real animals. They're saying that if pokemon were real it would be clear animal abuse, and in some cases animals in the real world are treated like pokemon are treated in the fictional world. But you're just flipping 1's and 0's. It's not real. Animals are treated poorly in the real world. So what? What does that have to do with the fictional world of pokemon? What does that have to do with games that, if you actually read the dialogue, promote a healthy relationship with companions? Your whole purpose in the first two games is to keep Team Rocket from turning all pokemon in the world into mindless slaves. Sure, you fight with them. But what people don't remember is that it's an RPG. All RPGs have some sort of combat in them, and they almost always include beating up on wild animals, tamed animals, machines, etc. If PETA wants people to take them seriously, they will have to choose to attack a different industry. However, PETA doesn't care if you take them seriously or not. They just want to stay alive and relevant. | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
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Traceback
United States469 Posts
On October 10 2012 02:11 zhurai wrote: I wonder, is peta gonna look at starcraft next, and complain that zerglings are being abused? Kerrigan is breeding | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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[]Phase[]
Belgium927 Posts
To put things more simple : people confusing pokemon for real life animals are the problem, its not the fictional series that is at fault. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
And obviously PETA has never watched the show because goddamn do they make sure that all the good characters just super mega love their pokemon and YOURE SUPPOSED TO LOVE THEM SO YOU WANT TO BUY THE TOYS AND THE VIDEO GAMES. Sigh PETA. Just sigh. | ||
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forestry
95 Posts
Is it legal to use those pictures? Trademarked names and characters that look nearly the same. Don't some Japanese company own those images and are they protected from lawsuits? | ||
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