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So an article today popped up saying that PETA has gotten a little vocal on their beliefes towards Pokemon.
Animal rights group PETA has condemned the Pokémon media franchise and video game series, saying it “paints a rosy picture of what amounts to thinly veiled animal abuse.
"The Pokémon series tells the stories of young “trainers” who befriend wild critters called Pokémon, help them grow stronger, and coach them through a series of non-fatal sparring matches against other trainers."
“Much like animals in the real world, Pokémon are treated as unfeeling objects and used for such things as human entertainment and as subjects in experiments. The way that Pokémon are stuffed into pokéballs is similar to how circuses chain elephants inside railroad cars and let them out only to perform confusing and often painful tricks that were taught using sharp steel-tipped bullhooks and electric shock prods …if PETA existed in Unova, our motto would be: Pokémon are not ours to use or abuse. They exist for their own reasons. We believe that this is the message that should be sent to children."
Source : http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidewalt/2012/10/08/peta-pokemon-animal-abuse/
This has to be THE most ridiculous thing i have ever heard in my life (next to PETA complaining about the rats being eaten in a Call of Duty campaign mission). I grew up with pokemon both the show and the games and it did nothing but give me great experiences. PETA is really digging deep to find any sort of publicity for them now.
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They are just starving for attention no need to give them any.
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eh, let's be honest. PETA has been a joke for the last howmanyever years, like you said, it's just another idiotic publicity stunt, like their porn site, and their naked fur thing, etc. etc.
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I'm fairly certain that PETA are just trolls. I've seen a lot of their public statements and I can't fathom how people who care so much about animals know so little about them.
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the premise of pokemon is actually pretty twisted, but yes i don't care much for these animal rights... but anyways like you said they are just finding publicity, since they are simply stating they are against pokemon
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I think PETA arguing that all ice cream should be made from human breastmilk was stranger. The group's entire strategy is attention whoredom. Make the wildest/strangest declarations and hope, as in this case, someone notices it and makes it news.
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Pokemon is pretty adamant about how if you love them they will always win
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I play the game and use only protest and petition... I died (fainted).
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I had never heard of the breastmilk and porn site, that's just too funny
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And this is why I don't give money to PETA. Instead of actually doing something to help with animal rights they spend their time and money protesting against the most ludicrous things.
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Actually, in the more recent pokemons you need to keep them happy by feeding 'em berries and shit, the positive bond between the Pokemon and trainer are reasserted over and over again during the game, how they love eachother, and that it's healthy to form bonds of friendship, it feels like these idiots never even bothered to play the games.
If anything it teaches kids about friendship, not to mention math and such with it's deceptively complicated RPG elements.
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I'm glad we're giving attention to PETA's attention whoring efforts.
They do shit like this solely to get in the limelight. Stop giving them attention and eventually they'll stop doing it.
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LOL
ok pokemon black and blue is seriously amazing ahahahahahahaha
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Not sure if this is more or less bullshit compared to "guns in video games promote violence." And considering how the main theme of Pokemon has always been to love and care for your Pokemon.....
It's like they have nothing to do.
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I didn't know Pokemon Black/White 2 was out.
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Is PETA even relevant anymore? I feel like they do more harm than good for their cause lol
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Kind of hard to believe PETA is trying hard. Pokemon shows teams like Rocket as the "abusers" and it's declared wrong. Trainers like Ash, Brock, and Misty love their pokemon. If peta bothered to watch the series, they would easily find out that the trainers love their pokemon. I've been playing since Red/Blue and if anything, Pokemon taught me how to have respect for all of the pokemon in the game. Hell, I've even loved all the animals period because of pokemon.
This hype will die down soon I hope.
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Before playing their flash game of Pokemon the last pokemon i played was Silver haha thanks Peta for the memories.
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On October 09 2012 07:39 ArvickHero wrote:
Is PETA even relevant anymore? I feel like they do more harm than good for their cause lol
You're right but they need some limelight as their activities have been rather stale lately.
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Alright PETA you are starting to sound very crazy now. They are trolling right? Because I mean this is starting to get ridiculous.
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On October 09 2012 07:40 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Kind of hard to believe PETA is trying hard. Pokemon shows teams like Rocket as the "abusers" and it's declared wrong. Trainers like Ash, Brock, and Misty love their pokemon. If peta bothered to watch the series, they would easily find out that the trainers love their pokemon. I've been playing since Red/Blue and if anything, Pokemon taught me how to have respect for all of the pokemon in the game. Hell, I've even loved all the animals period because of pokemon.
This hype will die down soon I hope.
Very nice counterargument, totally forgot about that... also it's very important that not only do the trainers love their pokemon, but the pokemon love them back (and if it's one sided love, the show has spent episodes conveying how it's wrong to, for example, a trainer to keep a pokemon that doesn't want to be with the trainer)
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How about the episode where they save charmanders life when its flame is going out because the trainer told it to wait on that rock and it stayed there until ash and friends came along? Or when he steals misty's bike because pikachu is dying in the storm and he needs to get it to a hospital?
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On October 09 2012 07:46 jusTjoshin wrote:
How about the episode where they save charmanders life when its flame is going out because the trainer told it to wait on that rock and it stayed there until ash and friends came along? Or when he steals misty's bike because pikachu is dying in the storm and he needs to get it to a hospital?
Butterfree *sniff*
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PETA pokemon porn incoming.
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It's a videogame peta, A VIDEO GAME.
ITS NOT REALLLL
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On October 09 2012 07:43 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 07:40 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Kind of hard to believe PETA is trying hard. Pokemon shows teams like Rocket as the "abusers" and it's declared wrong. Trainers like Ash, Brock, and Misty love their pokemon. If peta bothered to watch the series, they would easily find out that the trainers love their pokemon. I've been playing since Red/Blue and if anything, Pokemon taught me how to have respect for all of the pokemon in the game. Hell, I've even loved all the animals period because of pokemon.
This hype will die down soon I hope. Very nice counterargument, totally forgot about that... also it's very important that not only do the trainers love their pokemon, but the pokemon love them back (and if it's one sided love, the show has spent episodes conveying how it's wrong to, for example, a trainer to keep a pokemon that doesn't want to be with the trainer)
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This is really just dumb and anyone who has seen the show will realize that. It's just a game and a tv show that isn't based in reality. The pokemon in the show love to fight and want their trainers and other allied pokemon to win so it really isn't cruelty.
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So, can we assume Michael Vick watched a lot of pokemon in his late teens?
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Well if i recall correctly, in pokemon you pretty much live like a hobo and train animals to fight kindof like dogfights. So all in all, if you think about it carefully it's pretty effed up. Then again it's from japan so obviously you wouldn't expect it to be logic, and should take this with a grain of salt. But all in all pokemon was quite fun ... and so are "pseudo" realistic war games, and thrillers with serial killers involved, etc etc ...
But yeah i mean, if you're PETA and you want to do some PR stuff to gain attention your choices are kindof limited, you don't make an announcement to an announcement or a trailer for an announcement to a future announcement on teamliquid. You try to shock people and "act offended" etc etc ...
All is well and logical
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The most recent Pokemon, Pokemon Black+White 1, was pretty poorly written. The bad guys were saying "We shouldn't enslave pokemon and make them fight eachother, just to heal them up and make them fight again."
The bad guys were completely right. Pokemon is great as a fiction, but that game tried to really look at the ethical heart of Pokemon, and the truth is, if we enacted Pokemon in real life, it would be a crime. I didn't care about the ethics of Pokemon until the most recent game, where they completely dropped the ball and basically said, "No. Forcing animals to fight to within inches of your life is fine."
It was a bonehead move by Nintendo and Gamefreak.
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The worst part of it is that the peaceful moves do nothing, so they are station that only violence can solve what they perceive as problems. Also it looks like they actually had someone who played the game make this, that's kind of ironic.
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Yes - Pokemon horrifically teaches people to care and love their animal friends. This incredibly realistic show where - just like in the circus - the animals are vapourized into a red light and compressed into tiny spheres in no way promotes establishing a loving and nurturing relationship between humans and the other species that also inhabit our planet.
Similarly - Looney Tunes promotes unsuspecting violence towards animals. When children see Bugs Bunny surviving shotgun blasts to the face they become encouraged to try such behaviour on their friends unaware of the actual consequences (see story below).
Friend mistaken for Daffy Duck
Also - some of the so called "attack moves" used in the Pokemon show are incredibly inappropriate:
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Life is life, video games are video games.
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Yeah and North Korea is the land of the free...
/sigh
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More do-gooders out to suck every ounce of normality and fun out of the world with their rediculous crusades.
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On October 09 2012 07:54 Shai wrote:
The most recent Pokemon, Pokemon Black+White 1, was pretty poorly written. The bad guys were saying "We shouldn't enslave pokemon and make them fight eachother, just to heal them up and make them fight again."
The bad guys were completely right. Pokemon is great as a fiction, but that game tried to really look at the ethical heart of Pokemon, and the truth is, if we enacted Pokemon in real life, it would be a crime. I didn't care about the ethics of Pokemon until the most recent game, where they completely dropped the ball and basically said, "No. Forcing animals to fight to within inches of your life is fine."
It was a bonehead move by Nintendo and Gamefreak.
Pokemon and animals were never a direct equivalency for me, even as a kid. As far as I was and am concerned, Pokemon are a species of fantastic being that is altogether unique in such a way as to render their reflection on real life interactions totally ridiculous.
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I'm really glad that PETA has finally solved all issues that real animals are facing, so they have the time and energy to promote rights for imaginary animals.
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But there's no Sea Kittens in Pokemon... (please tell me someone gets this reference)
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Does anyone even take these guys seriously anymore? I know I never have.
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PETA is gradually becoming more of a joke and falling into irrelevancy as time passes. Beyond a few extremists, the whole animal rights movement is becoming very irrelevant in modern society, and them attempting to capitalize on the release of BW2 shows this.
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This is actually the most hilarious thing I have read all week.
I wonder if PETA will ever get leadership that brings the organization back to sanity...
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I was having a cup of coffee and i spilled it out, thanks peta.
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PETA cements its reputation as a group full of complete morons yet again.
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Yes I did, and I laughed.
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and in our defense as past/present/future trainers, Ash never had Pikachu inside the pokeball because he treated him like a brother! Besides, peta should get excited, in over half the episodes some form of pokemon whoops the shit out of team rocket who are out there to exploit them and use them wrongfully.
What's peta moving onto next? tomagotchi because I fed the little fucker until he died? please...
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I kept my Tamagotchi alive for 45 days once. Still wasn't long enough for PETA
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WHAT THE FUCK LOL LOL LOL
i just played through the game thing. omg its so funny
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this is a viral campaign, the only way they can get any attention, you just helped them spreading the word good job.
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played this game, tried to complete my tasks in a non-violent manner without using the techniques my evil human overlords taught me
and quickly got a game over. i guess the only way to please peta is to kill all humans
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On October 09 2012 08:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
played this game, tried to complete my tasks in a non-violent manner without using the techniques my evil human overlords taught me
and quickly got a game over. i guess the only way to please peta is to kill all humans
naw snivy tepig (oops i guess im not a pro at this game) has a nonviolent move that can kill people too
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On October 09 2012 08:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
played this game, tried to complete my tasks in a non-violent manner without using the techniques my evil human overlords taught me
and quickly got a game over. i guess the only way to please peta is to kill all humans
It's not even fun, they give you all the hardcounters. also wtf how is water very effective on ash ????
oh yeah there's a couple internet memes in there ... not subtle at all.
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On October 09 2012 08:57 CeriseCherries wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 08:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
played this game, tried to complete my tasks in a non-violent manner without using the techniques my evil human overlords taught me
and quickly got a game over. i guess the only way to please peta is to kill all humans naw snivy has a nonviolent move that can kill people too
oh, so i just didn't let the body count go high enough before unlocking this ability? i gotcha.
so peta's stance is 'kill all humans until you can kill them without killing them, for justice'
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The point a realised PETa were a joke was when i saw this:
Ingrid Newkirk recently sent a letter to Yasser Arafat asking the Palestinians to not use animals in any future terrorist attacks against Israelis. This followed a Jan. 26 terrorist attack in which a donkey was rigged with explosives which were then detonated near the West Bank settlement of Gush Etzion.
Here is the full text of the letter from Newkirk,
February 3, 2003
Yasser Arafat, President
Palestinian National Authority
Ramallah, West Bank
Palestinian Authority
Your Excellency:
I am writing from an organization dedicated to fighting animal abuse around the world. We have received many calls and letters from people shocked at the bombing in Jerusalem on January 26 in which a donkey, laden with explosives, was intentionally blown up.
All nations behave abominably in many ways when they are fighting their enemies, and animals are always caught in the crossfire. The U.S. Army abandoned thousands of loyal service dogs in Vietnam. Al-Qaeda and the British government have both used animals in hideously cruel biological weaponry tests. We watched on television as stray cats in your own compound fled as best they could from the Israeli bulldozers.
Animals claim no nation. They are in perpetual involuntary servitude to all humankind, and although they pose no threat and own no weapons, human beings always win in the undeclared war against them. For animals, there is no Geneva Convention and no peace treaty — just our mercy.
If you have the opportunity, will you please add to your burdens my request that you appeal to all those who listen to you to leave the animals out of this conflict?
We send you sincere wishes of peace.
Very truly yours,
Ingrid Newkirk
President, PETA
The obvious question is why Newkirk didn’t simply ask Arafat to put an end to terrorist bombings altogether. As Newkirk told the Washington Post, however,
It’s not my business to inject myself into human wars.
Yeah, you really have to wonder where people get this idea that Newkirk and PETA care more about animals than human beings. It couldn’t be from stunts like this, could it?
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On October 09 2012 08:57 Marti wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 08:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
played this game, tried to complete my tasks in a non-violent manner without using the techniques my evil human overlords taught me
and quickly got a game over. i guess the only way to please peta is to kill all humans It's not even fun, they give you all the hardcounters. also wtf how is water very effective on ash ???? oh yeah there's a couple internet memes in there ... not subtle at all.
I dunno, but when I played Ash in pokemon, I was on fire! So yeah, water would hardcounter 
Game is retarded. So are all of PETAs ridiculous attempts at advertisement. Best not to give them any traffic.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/4988-Skin-Game <-- a really nice video from moviebob talking about PETA last time they did something similar.
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PETA has been a bad joke for years now. Furthermore, any person who actually watches Pokemon knows it doesn't send that kind of message. Seriously, watch some episodes where Paul and Ash butt heads. Pokemon are emphasized as friends, not tools in this show.
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Well...
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I guess PETA is fucking crazy.
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PETA is one of the most pathetic activist organizations in the world. The only reason that they get any attention is that every couple years the do that "I would rather be naked than wear fur" with some supermodels or movie stars. I all for treating animals with a certain level of respect and kindness, but PETA is terrible.
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holy shit this fucking game LOL
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After playing through Pokemon Black and Blue, I can only say that I had a really hard time opening those treasure chest. So I didn't. So much bullshit, if I would have opened the treasure chests I think my head would have exploded from the bullshittery.
Seriously though I sincerely and wholly regret giving PETA my time, energy, and website traffic. I think I've had enough of them forever.
/ignore PETA
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Lol, this can't be serious. I mean, I'm sure it is but PETA is grasping for straws here (I think that's the right phrase).
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so how long is this game? Do you get to kill all the charracters you know from the show? Is there gymbosses? Anyone played it and wanna share
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Is PETA run by trolls? They are like a parody of themselves by now, it's like they don't want to be taken seriously.
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Wait people still get upset by PETA? I just think it's hilarious.
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On October 09 2012 09:33 sertas wrote:
so how long is this game? Do you get to kill all the charracters you know from the show? Is there gymbosses? Anyone played it and wanna share
Pretty short, you just do 3 or 4 fights. It's pretty hilarious if you have a very high tolerance for bullshit.
Took some screenshots to give you an idea of what you're in for.
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The fact that Pokemon is morally problematic is the reason that I love it so much. I love animal abuse simulation!
...am I the only one?
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I don't think you kill any pokemon in the whole pokemon games, in fact isnt the reason given in red/blue for you winning is that you loved your pokemons more then your rival. In the current games theirs even alot of mini games that revolves about making you pokemon look good (cool, beautiful contest) and walking in the park with them so its alot of stuff in there endearing you to your pokemons
silly silly peta
On October 09 2012 09:33 sertas wrote:
so how long is this game? Do you get to kill all the charracters you know from the show? Is there gymbosses? Anyone played it and wanna share
I think all old gym bosses are in the story end arena thing.
oh your talkinga bout peta game not real game woops
edit to guy under me: they already have gone after Mario with the raccoon suit thing. That was very silly to
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Nice job PETA !!
I hope they'll get Mario next; this mother fucker is kicking turtles since 1980.
I also hope the get to bann Age of Empire; so many horses and elephants have perished there.
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PETA clearly doesn't even have people who intensely play the game or watch the show. It's all about mushy relationship building and training and working hard and your Pokemon never ever fucking dying (only fainting).
This is actually hilarious. If they don't understand the difference between reality and a video game...
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Nintendo on PETA "Thank you for saving us some advertising money."
If anything, PETA let us know that Pokémon Black and White Versions 2 was released in North America recently (7th Oct.) I probably didn't get to know without PETA. Nintendo must be paying PETA for advertising, or it doesn't make sense.
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On October 09 2012 07:25 Br33zyy wrote:So an article today popped up saying that PETA has gotten a little vocal on their beliefes towards Pokemon. Animal rights group PETA has condemned the Pokémon media franchise and video game series, saying it “paints a rosy picture of what amounts to thinly veiled animal abuse.
"The Pokémon series tells the stories of young “trainers” who befriend wild critters called Pokémon, help them grow stronger, and coach them through a series of non-fatal sparring matches against other trainers."
“Much like animals in the real world, Pokémon are treated as unfeeling objects and used for such things as human entertainment and as subjects in experiments. The way that Pokémon are stuffed into pokéballs is similar to how circuses chain elephants inside railroad cars and let them out only to perform confusing and often painful tricks that were taught using sharp steel-tipped bullhooks and electric shock prods …if PETA existed in Unova, our motto would be: Pokémon are not ours to use or abuse. They exist for their own reasons. We believe that this is the message that should be sent to children."Source : http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidewalt/2012/10/08/peta-pokemon-animal-abuse/This has to be THE most ridiculous thing i have ever heard in my life (next to PETA complaining about the rats being eaten in a Call of Duty campaign mission). I grew up with pokemon both the show and the games and it did nothing but give me great experiences. PETA is really digging deep to find any sort of publicity for them now.
Wasn't this the whole premise of the team plasma thing from the last 2 games? Only it turned out to be a conspiracy to destroy the world.
Get premeditated PETA.
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Please nintendo for the love of god sue them.
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Is it funny that PETA was pre-empted by the bad guys in B/W basically being them and showing how much of a dumbass idea it is?
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On October 09 2012 09:50 Orek wrote:
Nintendo on PETA "Thank you for saving us some advertising money."
Rofl didn't even think of that but its true. This nonsensical attack on Pokemon is really just free advertising for Nintendo with pretty much no repercussions. Nobody's going to take this PETA announcement seriously.
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On October 09 2012 09:53 WilDMousE wrote:
Please nintendo for the love of god sue them.
Well I didn't know a new pokémon game was coming out before I saw this thread, and I might want ot take a look at it and maybe buy it... and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. That's free advertisement, I wouldn't sue if I was Nintendo!
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On October 09 2012 09:53 WilDMousE wrote:
Please nintendo for the love of god sue them.
More publicity for PETA
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![[image loading]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Glenstorm/petapoke2.png)
I'm not sure if this is serious or trolling, PETA
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Thank you so much for posting that, it's AWESOME!
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Looks real menacing to me
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This just proves that PETA doesn't have anything better to do and will do whatever to try and stay relevant or get attention.
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that game was lolz, peta is retarded
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Yeah.... I've said the same thing to friends, entirely as a joke. I get the feeling PETA isn't joking here
PETA is just being silly now. Do they think Pokemon is inspiring people to go into the wild, capture and train wild animals to fight each other? I hope not, because it obviously would be absurd. So why are they doing things like this, or when they claimed Mario was in the wrong for wearing that raccoon hat in some games? Looks like they will say anything that comes into their heads for the attention.
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There was also a peta cooking mama game earlier as well. What was the breast milk and porn site campaign from peta?
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Excellent game.
Incidentally, must thank PETA for reminding me Black and White 2 just came out. :O
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For a game that says that love, above all else, is what leads to victory, this is a stunt I saw coming.
WTF PETA I'm not Micheal Vick
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Seriously though... Pokemon? Every other game has some sort of message that Pokemon aren't "tools of battle." Hell, there's 2 games (3rd coming out in Japan soon, actually) in which you PLAY as a Pokemon.
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LMFAO this is priceless.
I think it's obvious they're doing this for attention because, well, let's face it... no coordinated group of people in a well-known organization can be that stupid.
The things they petition against are so ridiculous it's troll worthy
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PETA can go shove some pokeballs up their asses and go run about in a free range field somewhere pretending to be buffalo.
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i rape and murder my pokemon after i take them out of the pokeball
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Right, and don't forget the animal abuse - we make the poor critters faint!
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this is why i only play it for the fashion contests.
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PETA after reading this thread: "It's not super effective."
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Why is there a question mark in the title? I think they made their position pretty clear.
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Did the BITCH who wrote that article even watch the butterfree episode? DID SHE?? If that isn't showing emotion towards animals then I'm done...
lulz
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PETA... I expect this sort of shit from them.
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I dunno why people hate on dog fighting but diss PETA for saying Pokemon is messed up. Sure they only show Pokemon with the swirly eyes "fainting" after battles, but we all know fainting isn't what happens when Scyther slashes through Pikachu's mid-section. Think about it.
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Not as good as their "whips and chains are for the bedroom" BDSM campaign.
On October 09 2012 11:05 Slow Motion wrote:
I dunno why people hate on dog fighting but diss PETA for saying Pokemon is messed up. Sure they only show Pokemon with the swirly eyes "fainting" after battles, but we all know fainting isn't what happens when Scyther slashes through Pikachu's mid-section. Think about it.
I do. Dog fighting is real, that's why people hate on it. Pokemon is a kids story about bringing animals and people closer together.
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On October 09 2012 11:05 Slow Motion wrote:
I dunno why people hate on dog fighting but diss PETA for saying Pokemon is messed up. Sure they only show Pokemon with the swirly eyes "fainting" after battles, but we all know fainting isn't what happens when Scyther slashes through Pikachu's mid-section. Think about it.
yea. it's a more complicated dog fighting game.
but on balance it's not without its redeeming features. the bad guys who do use pokemon to fight are always taught a lesson. the hero is on a quest to get stronger together with the pokemon
oh fuck what am i even doing
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sounds like the PETA deciders just watched some minutes of an episode, perhaps only a powerpoint presentation of how pokemons are treated badly in the series...
they are stuffed into balls like hamsters (which is really a bad thing), pulled out to fight (like cocks or attack dogs), and seem to have no feelings (no voice = no feelings, as PETA probably sees it).
so i can see how PETA came to this decision.
what i dont understand is, that they decide such things without proper information.
everyone who has seen more than just some minutes of pokemon knows that pokemons actually _have_ feelings, that ash spends all of his time to help pokemons, that his only goal is to make them happy and that every pokemon he has in his bag wanted to come with him.
well perhaps PETA is against all forms of pets, against domestication of animals per se.
that could explain a lot.
but i have a much easier explanation: they are psychos, pure psychos...
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Wow this is fucking ridicous, if this goes through it shows you what kind of people works for PETA
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Does PETA even have any supporters since in the past decade all they've done is make ridiculous accusations such as these? Even their supporters have to shake their head at their shenanigans.
I'm pretty sure the leading members of PETA don't even remember their goal of fighting for animal rights, and just want anything involving animals in any scenario besides living in nature (or even there I imagine) to be hated. I'm fairly certain PETA these days is composed of just a couple of people that know how to program shitty flash games and have enough disposable income to pay a few girls to get naked once in a while.
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it's not that hard to see their side in this. imagine a human being treated the same way a pokemon is, and the rest follows.
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Lol I'm surprised PETA is actually late to the party for once. Stupid as it sounds, people have been equating pokemon with cockfighting for over a decade now.
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I just realized that Pokemon BW (and the expansions) touch on the issue of Pokemon "enslavement", so its not like Game Freak is blind to the issue. At least they bothered to put the whole idea in the plot and made it fairly decent, not necessarily condemning or condoning. Also, PETA is just annoying now as I said before, and need to realize they are losing their relevance if they are forced to criticize a video game just to gain attention.
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Jesus christ lol. PETA -.-
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The game is pretty funny. There's a mudkips who asks if you liek mudkipz and a slowpoke that tells you team plasma is here to liberate pokemon. I don't think people hate pets or animals or get desensitized to them because of pokemon though.
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hahaha
wait they are serious...
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LOL isn't that the exact same premise of the Team Rocket equivalent (is it Team Plasma? I don't recall) in the new Pokemon white? I'm talking about the EXACT same premise.
Hilarious.
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Come on! go watch the charizard episode or the butterfree one and you'll be crying! hell even the first one when ash gets attacked by the spearrows!
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Well that's, er, very interesting, because, er, I am, in fact, made entirely of wood.
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im going to play some pokemon right now :D thanks for the idea
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Well I for one think it's about time someone stood up to the Pokemon enslavers. Let them go freeeee!
While we're at it, we should really take a hard look at the wanton slaughter of horses in fantasy novels. You too can prevent the mistreatment of fictional animals.
Are they just trying to gear their message down to kids or something?
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Don't forget about the Diablo series, where 1/3 of all enemies are "animals"! Next thing, people are going to call Mario a mass murderer.
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the only wierd thing about pkemon is how humans manage to survive on a planet where every creature can shoot lazer beams
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That game is strangely well made...
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On October 09 2012 12:12 Falling wrote:
Well I for one think it's about time someone stood up to the Pokemon enslavers. Let them go freeeee!
While we're at it, we should really take a hard look at the wanton slaughter of horses in fantasy novels. You too can prevent the mistreatment of fictional animals.
Are they just trying to gear their message down to kids or something?
womens rights in fairy tales are very lackluster. over 75% of all women are locked in towers forever.
On October 09 2012 12:15 achan1058 wrote:
Don't forget about the Diablo series, where 1/3 of all enemies are "animals"! Next thing, people are going to call Mario a mass murderer.
if theres ever a spate of people jumping on the shells of giant tortoise we know who to blame.
On October 09 2012 11:22 red4ce wrote:
Lol I'm surprised PETA is actually late to the party for once. Stupid as it sounds, people have been equating pokemon with cockfighting for over a decade now.
about as useful as antiwar protesters going to rally at showings of star wars.
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Coming from the group that makes animal porn? LOL
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PETA is one of those organizations that started out as something that people could get behind. Now they're just trying to pick fights and attack things that millions of people enjoy doing. Many people have ignored them for the entirety of its existence, but now it seems like they are like an ONN that takes itself very seriously. They've shown that they have always been a hate group and people should stop giving them attention because that's literally all they need to keep alive.
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Well, how very interesting, because I'm now made entirely of tin.
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Less talk and more nudes please PETA.
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They talk like Pokemon is new. Where the fuck have they been for the past fifteen plus years?
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peta is wrong
source: im a pokemon
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On October 09 2012 12:59 Diglett wrote:
peta is wrong
source: im a pokemon
Is that red thing on your face a mouth or a nose?
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I rolled my eyes after the first few lines.
If we have tv series like Dexter does that mean we are promoting serial killers? Use a fkin brain.. FUUUUUAAARK
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On October 09 2012 13:04 TAMinator wrote:
I rolled my eyes after the first few lines.
If we have tv series like Dexter does that mean we are promoting serial killers? Use a fkin brain.. FUUUUUAAARK
Animal's lives are more important bro
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If they were in Unova, they would be Team Plasma.
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I understand it has always been PETA policy to get themselves attention through rather extreme means. This however... lands so very late in the day. ------- I was 11 when Pokemons were new... now I am 24, and NOW they declare them evil?
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On October 09 2012 13:00 Zambrah wrote:Is that red thing on your face a mouth or a nose?
It's a nose. It has a shadow in some pictures. And it's cuter that way
EDIT:
Also, the reason PETA's doing this now is probably because of the recent addition of Team Plasma, the latest criminal gang. They're the first group to explicitly try to free pokemon from their trainers, so I guess this kind of attacking pokemon only became considerable once they were created
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The ending of red/blue? Where Oak explains pretty succinctly that the only reason you beat gary(Or assface as I always named him... mature right?) is that you treated your pokemon with love and respect and gary raised them for selfish reasons ?
This PETA bullshit is like saying that harry potter promotes dueling between teenagers because the school teaches its students to duel..... (that fact that magic doesn't exist wouldn't matter...)
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On October 09 2012 13:18 TALegion wrote:
Also, the reason PETA's doing this now is probably because of the recent addition of Team Plasma, the latest criminal gang. They're the first group to explicitly try to free pokemon from their trainers, so I guess this kind of attacking pokemon only became considerable once they were created
That's interesting. So PETA is Team Plasma?
On October 09 2012 13:23 Ravensong170 wrote:
This PETA bullshit is like saying that harry potter promotes dueling between teenagers because the school teaches its students to duel..... (that fact that magic doesn't exist wouldn't matter...)
I always thought it was about Satanic rituals or something......
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Why would PETA say something so unpopular? That brings no one to the cause.
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On October 09 2012 12:21 Forikorder wrote:
the only wierd thing about pkemon is how humans manage to survive on a planet where every creature can shoot lazer beams
It helps when you're like the only creature that can't get sucked into nuts that fall off of trees. ;-D
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On October 09 2012 13:26 puppykiller wrote:
Why would PETA say something so unpopular? That brings no one to the cause.
they dont care about bringing in more people, therell always have the wierd obsessed animal lovers who only care about making animal safe without bothering to actually learn anything they dont have to recruit people they only ahve to make sure people know they exist
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Wow... I mean, one word post, but wow...
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Retarded statement by these guys lol
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The one thing beaten into your head in a Pokemon game is LITERALLY the opposite of this. I have no idea what they were smoking this time.
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A crusade to save fictional animals. I like it -- it's edgy.
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Please don't post stuff like this... You are just granting PETA a response.
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how do you heal your pokemon, my snivy got ezed by ash
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They need to get back to naked women. Now that's something I can get behind.
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I wonder if PETA has any kind of advisors on public relations.
I mean, if they want to actually have success they should not alienate people with silly stuff like this.
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It's funny because so much of pokemon is based off of the good guys having a deep connection with pokemon and having a big bond and respect for them -_- and the bad guys always want to exploit them, if anything.
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I'm glad to see nobody agrees with them in this thread
In fact I think nobody agrees with them.
That's like the most ridiculous thing that happened in a long time for Peta u_u
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ahahaha, activists are a band of crazy people ^^ Pokemon is what helped me learn english when i was younger, and i have played countless of hours with those fantastic games, and i have no idea on why PETA would condemn it :p
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you know whats sad? someone theres a boy whos parents took away his pokemons because of PETA
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how many peta members does it take to change a lightbulb?
none, they cant change anything
har har
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On October 09 2012 15:04 blug wrote:
Please don't post stuff like this... You are just granting PETA a response.
Yeah basically this... they are just trying to seem relevant. They have no rhyme or reason otherwise to why they'd be commenting on a fictional universe, but to create awareness of themselves. Sadly the easiest way to make yourself a household name is to make a complete and utter ass of yourself, and self respect be damned.
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It also makes them into comic relief which nobody would take seriously. I suppose that's a step up from being totally unknown, but not a big step IMO.
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When mudkip comes he says "i herd you liek mudkipz" in the game lol
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peta is awesome... seriously the things they claim continuously astound me to how outrageous the human mind can do
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I wanna go to a PETA rally and throw pokeballs at the protesters in animal costumes lol
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I often agree with PETA, but this is just beyond silly.
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The soundtrack is really, really good. Better than B/W to me.
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Danm, I know it seems hypocritical to say what's opinion and what not. But shame on you Peta, danm, shame on you. Make your self a complete joke and hop on important subjects and make the cause a joke. It's starting to seem like PETA are shills. Cause when they jump on serious issues, it demeans the cause.
Fuck you peta. Go fuck yourself you evil cocksuckers.
Fuck you
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That is freaking hilarious.... and a little bit sad
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This gave me a good laugh, thanks! 
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Sometimes I feel like PETA is a group of trolls who pretend that they are super vegan animal lovers just to make vegetarians like me look like idiots.
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PETA looks more and more like an organization set up by the food industry in order to make vegans look bad.
Edit:On October 09 2012 19:26 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
Sometimes I feel like PETA is a group of trolls who pretend that they are super vegan animal lovers just to make vegetarians like me look like idiots.
great minds think alike :D
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Agreed, but on a broader scale. In this world, it's great for the powers that be, whether directly related or justlucky,that any good cause has a group of shills in it's defense to completely tarnish and ruin the subjects.
I mean animal rights?What is it? A group devoted to making sure people dont harm animals. Don't hurt or mistreat them. There's nothing wrong with that and it's not speaking to the individual man, it's speaking to a society who see's it fit to eat meat, lol.
"Don't push your beliefs on me." Fuck you, don''t touch that animal.
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I understand the reasons for PETA and I highly respect it. If studies would show that children who play Pokemon automatically treat animals like soulless rocks, please ban it.
For my part I can only say that I grew up playing Pokemon and having lots of animals (~10). I treated them right and gave them tons of love =)
This game will stay in my heart forever, no matter what will happen
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It's like they are trying to alienate people...
Reminds me of people that likes making silly statements just so they can feel like victims when people laugh at them.
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I think it's one of the saddest recurring themes: an admirable goal, like protecting animals, or saving the environment, get's incredibly bad publicity because of stupid fanatics (like PETA or random insane environmentalist organizations), so the braod majority of people not only oppose those fanatics, but the good idea behind it.
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Relevant article about how PETA does more harm than good... even to animals: http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
New Documents: PETA Killed a Near Record-Breaking 95 Percent of Adoptable Dogs and Cats in its Care During 2011Hypocritical Animal Rights Group Brings Pet Death Toll To 27,751 Washington, DC — Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online, obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request, showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed a staggering 95.9 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2011. Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program, the notorious animal rights group has continued killing adoptable animals at its Norfolk, VA headquarters, at an average of 37 pets every week. According to records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 1,911 cats and dogs last year while placing just 24 in adoptive homes. Since 1998, a total of 27,751 pets have died at the hands of PETA workers. "PETA hasn’t slowed down its slaughterhouse operation, even as the group continues to lecture the American public with its phony ‘animal rights’ message," said Rick Berman, CCF’s Executive Director. "It appears PETA is more concerned with funding its media and advertising antics than finding suitable homes for these dogs and cats." Despite its $37.4 million budget, PETA employees make little effort to find homes for the thousands of animals they kill every year. A 2010 inspection of 290 PETA animal custody records performed by the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services discovered that PETA killed 84 percent of the animals it took control of within only 24 hours. Additionally, the inspection discovered that PETA’s animal shelter didn't meet PETA’s own published guidelines for running a humane shelter. "For the 13th year in a row, PETA’s leaders have shown they don’t care about the unlucky dogs and cats that come to its Norfolk facility," Berman continued. "It’s about time PETA’s ‘shelter’ is reclassified as a slaughterhouse." CCF has obtained PETA’s "Animal Record" filings for every year since 1998 from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. Members of the public can see these documents at www.PETAKillsAnimals.com.
There are even more statistics in there too about how awful an organization like PETA is to animals x.x
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im pretty sure when your organization kills more than 100 puppies a year it can not only be considered aweful, but straight up EVIL.
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On October 09 2012 21:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Relevant article about how PETA does more harm than good... even to animals: http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ Show nested quote +New Documents: PETA Killed a Near Record-Breaking 95 Percent of Adoptable Dogs and Cats in its Care During 2011Hypocritical Animal Rights Group Brings Pet Death Toll To 27,751 Washington, DC — Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online, obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request, showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed a staggering 95.9 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2011. Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program, the notorious animal rights group has continued killing adoptable animals at its Norfolk, VA headquarters, at an average of 37 pets every week. According to records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 1,911 cats and dogs last year while placing just 24 in adoptive homes. Since 1998, a total of 27,751 pets have died at the hands of PETA workers. "PETA hasn’t slowed down its slaughterhouse operation, even as the group continues to lecture the American public with its phony ‘animal rights’ message," said Rick Berman, CCF’s Executive Director. "It appears PETA is more concerned with funding its media and advertising antics than finding suitable homes for these dogs and cats." Despite its $37.4 million budget, PETA employees make little effort to find homes for the thousands of animals they kill every year. A 2010 inspection of 290 PETA animal custody records performed by the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services discovered that PETA killed 84 percent of the animals it took control of within only 24 hours. Additionally, the inspection discovered that PETA’s animal shelter didn't meet PETA’s own published guidelines for running a humane shelter. "For the 13th year in a row, PETA’s leaders have shown they don’t care about the unlucky dogs and cats that come to its Norfolk facility," Berman continued. "It’s about time PETA’s ‘shelter’ is reclassified as a slaughterhouse." CCF has obtained PETA’s "Animal Record" filings for every year since 1998 from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. Members of the public can see these documents at www.PETAKillsAnimals.com. There are even more statistics in there too about how awful an organization like PETA is to animals x.x
There is no way that article is true. I agree they are hypocrites in many ways, but they don't kill animals like that. There would be serious animal lovers at their facility's doors if those stats were true. The stats basically say that PETA kills 5 animals a day while only putting 2 animals in homes per month. Those stats would not be ignored. This website looks to be bullshit anyway.
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If we lived in the world of pokemon this critizism might be valid. I mean it's basically just animals fighting and you probably wouldn't allow that in the real world. But it's a fucking game so stfu.
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lvl 99 godly creature uses planet cracker nuclear holocaust
lvl 1 opponent fainted.
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peta are against everything, they're fucking retarded
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Fuck you PETA. This is my bulvasaur and I will abuse him whenever i want.
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Actually PETA is right. Pokemon is a playfull pretended animal abuse. No doubt about that.
Still its fun and even kids know that. I am quite sure that Pokemon doesn't encourage you kids to believe real animal abuse is ok. So I dont see the reason PETA should protest against it.
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Did you people even read what PETA said? I'm not a fan of PETA, but all they are doing is basically just trying to draw an allegory with pokemon to how animals are treated in the real world. Anyone who thinks they are seriously protesting the video game pokemon needs to re-read PETA's statement. I took it as "if pokemon were real, we would protest it, but the way some animals are treated today mirrors how pokemon are treated in this fictional series." It's obviously a way to try and get a message out, but it's really not a terribly absurd statement.
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On October 09 2012 23:55 Tewks44 wrote:
Did you people even read what PETA said? I'm not a fan of PETA, but all they are doing is basically just trying to draw an allegory with pokemon to how animals are treated in the real world. Anyone who thinks they are seriously protesting the video game pokemon needs to re-read PETA's statement. I took it as "if pokemon were real, we would protest it, but the way some animals are treated today mirrors how pokemon are treated in this fictional series." It's obviously a way to try and get a message out, but it's really not a terribly absurd statement.
If they really cared all that much about their message they might not deliver it in such a completely and utterly asinine way. I mean really, the only thing this has accomplished is called attention to PETA, and not positive attention either. Its just PETA attention whoring with outlandish content so that they can remain relavent. If they really gave a rat's ass about the cause they say that they care about, they would deliver their message in a sane way.
Parodying popular video games is just asinine, especially when one of the videogames CONSTANTLY repeats the same "Treat your animals with love and respect!" rhetoric over and over.
I mean the statement really ISN'T all that bad, but taken in context with the fact that its PETA, and their little Pokemon Black and Blue parody it seems fairly clear that PETA is just attention whoring.
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I grew up on pokemon and I love animals, beacause if you actually play the fucking game pokemon is about forming friendship and trust with them.
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This is nothing new. They already went after Mario for wearing the tanooki outfit.
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On October 10 2012 00:16 Glaceau wrote:
I grew up on pokemon and I love animals, beacause if you actually play the fucking game pokemon is about forming friendship and trust with them.
(Just to play the devil's advocate)
I grew up fighting dogs, and I love animals, because if you actually fight dogs, its about forming friendship and trust with them.
I did (and embarrassingly still do) play pokemon, and love the game, but PETA isn't trying to say you shouldn't play pokemon. They're saying that the way pokemon are treated would be terrible if it was done in real life, and that it is indeed done in real life with real animals.
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I dunno bout anyone else but I get quite attached to my pokemon.
If we accept PETAs premise, we are in a world where certain animals have essentially super powers, a pokeball is a clever thing, the pokemon aren't uncomfortable inside them... ffs the ball is about 1/20th the size of even some of the smallest pokemon...... surely they understand that ITS NOT REAL.
Pokemon actually encourages you to treat pets well, if you don't they get unhappy and don't fight well.
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On October 10 2012 00:19 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 00:16 Glaceau wrote:
I grew up on pokemon and I love animals, beacause if you actually play the fucking game pokemon is about forming friendship and trust with them. (Just to play the devil's advocate) I grew up fighting dogs, and I love animals, because if you actually fight dogs, its about forming friendship and trust with them. I did (and embarrassingly still do) play pokemon, and love the game, but PETA isn't trying to say you shouldn't play pokemon. They're saying that the way pokemon are treated would be terrible if it was done in real life, and that it is indeed done in real life with real animals.
well this is the part where I inform your devil's advocate that pokemon is not real. Nothing more needs to be said, if you can't tell the difference, you are a piece of shit like PETA.
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On October 10 2012 00:19 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 00:16 Glaceau wrote:
I grew up on pokemon and I love animals, beacause if you actually play the fucking game pokemon is about forming friendship and trust with them. (Just to play the devil's advocate) I grew up fighting dogs, and I love animals, because if you actually fight dogs, its about forming friendship and trust with them. I did (and embarrassingly still do) play pokemon, and love the game, but PETA isn't trying to say you shouldn't play pokemon. They're saying that the way pokemon are treated would be terrible if it was done in real life, and that it is indeed done in real life with real animals.
Yes but thats the thing, its not real life. No one ever played pokemon and then tried to stuff their cat in a little ball and expect it to not bite them... ok well someone probably did but anyone with half a brain wouldn't do it.
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On October 10 2012 00:21 Glaceau wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 00:19 Tewks44 wrote:On October 10 2012 00:16 Glaceau wrote:
I grew up on pokemon and I love animals, beacause if you actually play the fucking game pokemon is about forming friendship and trust with them. (Just to play the devil's advocate) I grew up fighting dogs, and I love animals, because if you actually fight dogs, its about forming friendship and trust with them. I did (and embarrassingly still do) play pokemon, and love the game, but PETA isn't trying to say you shouldn't play pokemon. They're saying that the way pokemon are treated would be terrible if it was done in real life, and that it is indeed done in real life with real animals. well this is the part where I inform your devil's advocate that pokemon is not real. Nothing more needs to be said, if you can't tell the difference, you are a piece of shit like PETA.
I think you missed my point. PETA is not saying you shouldn't play pokemon because pokemon are real creatures and suffer because your gameboy is an Ender's Game like device that control real animals. They're saying that if pokemon were real it would be clear animal abuse, and in some cases animals in the real world are treated like pokemon are treated in the fictional world.
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Nintendo should sue for copy right. Look at how closely those pictures match up...
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Hey, PETA can make some major movements in the world.
I mean just look at the fishing they stopped by calling the fish "Sea Kittens"! ... Wait
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On October 10 2012 00:26 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 00:21 Glaceau wrote:On October 10 2012 00:19 Tewks44 wrote:On October 10 2012 00:16 Glaceau wrote:
I grew up on pokemon and I love animals, beacause if you actually play the fucking game pokemon is about forming friendship and trust with them. (Just to play the devil's advocate) I grew up fighting dogs, and I love animals, because if you actually fight dogs, its about forming friendship and trust with them. I did (and embarrassingly still do) play pokemon, and love the game, but PETA isn't trying to say you shouldn't play pokemon. They're saying that the way pokemon are treated would be terrible if it was done in real life, and that it is indeed done in real life with real animals. well this is the part where I inform your devil's advocate that pokemon is not real. Nothing more needs to be said, if you can't tell the difference, you are a piece of shit like PETA. I think you missed my point. PETA is not saying you shouldn't play pokemon because pokemon are real creatures and suffer because your gameboy is an Ender's Game like device that control real animals. They're saying that if pokemon were real it would be clear animal abuse, and in some cases animals in the real world are treated like pokemon are treated in the fictional world.
But how do they know that? I think one of the premises of Pokemon is that they aren't like real animals. How many animal species are you aware of that can transform into a red light/gas and compress into a tiny sphere? We don't even really know what goes on in there - only that they can rest. If Pokemon were real involving real animals without an extensive modification of their physical properties then yes might be abusive - but then - half of action movies would be highly immoral if they were real. Harry Potter would have been a genocide.
The main point is that it's fiction. The second main point is - within the universe of the fiction, respectful and caring treatment of Pokemon is promoted.
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On October 10 2012 00:26 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 00:21 Glaceau wrote:On October 10 2012 00:19 Tewks44 wrote:On October 10 2012 00:16 Glaceau wrote:
I grew up on pokemon and I love animals, beacause if you actually play the fucking game pokemon is about forming friendship and trust with them. (Just to play the devil's advocate) I grew up fighting dogs, and I love animals, because if you actually fight dogs, its about forming friendship and trust with them. I did (and embarrassingly still do) play pokemon, and love the game, but PETA isn't trying to say you shouldn't play pokemon. They're saying that the way pokemon are treated would be terrible if it was done in real life, and that it is indeed done in real life with real animals. well this is the part where I inform your devil's advocate that pokemon is not real. Nothing more needs to be said, if you can't tell the difference, you are a piece of shit like PETA. I think you missed my point. PETA is not saying you shouldn't play pokemon because pokemon are real creatures and suffer because your gameboy is an Ender's Game like device that control real animals. They're saying that if pokemon were real it would be clear animal abuse, and in some cases animals in the real world are treated like pokemon are treated in the fictional world.
If Pokemon was real, HUMANITY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE GONE EXTINCT, I mean they are giant ultra-powered beasts of death. Its not even a remotely sane comparison because Pokemon defies reality in so many ways.
And like I said, PETA making the comparison between Pokemon and animal abuse is just idiocy, mostly because of the way they approach it. They approach it like an attention whore. If they focused on the legitimate issue of animal abuse and didn't parody popular children's games then maybe their messages would be taken even mildly seriously, but I think at this point they don't expect anyone to take them seriously, all they seem to want is to garner some attention to themselves.
Shit, read DarkPlasmaBalls post in this thread, PETA is really in no position to be parodying Pokemon.
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They're about 11 years too late...
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On October 10 2012 00:26 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 00:21 Glaceau wrote:On October 10 2012 00:19 Tewks44 wrote:On October 10 2012 00:16 Glaceau wrote:
I grew up on pokemon and I love animals, beacause if you actually play the fucking game pokemon is about forming friendship and trust with them. (Just to play the devil's advocate) I grew up fighting dogs, and I love animals, because if you actually fight dogs, its about forming friendship and trust with them. I did (and embarrassingly still do) play pokemon, and love the game, but PETA isn't trying to say you shouldn't play pokemon. They're saying that the way pokemon are treated would be terrible if it was done in real life, and that it is indeed done in real life with real animals. well this is the part where I inform your devil's advocate that pokemon is not real. Nothing more needs to be said, if you can't tell the difference, you are a piece of shit like PETA. I think you missed my point. PETA is not saying you shouldn't play pokemon because pokemon are real creatures and suffer because your gameboy is an Ender's Game like device that control real animals. They're saying that if pokemon were real it would be clear animal abuse, and in some cases animals in the real world are treated like pokemon are treated in the fictional world.
But you're just flipping 1's and 0's. It's not real.
Animals are treated poorly in the real world. So what? What does that have to do with the fictional world of pokemon? What does that have to do with games that, if you actually read the dialogue, promote a healthy relationship with companions? Your whole purpose in the first two games is to keep Team Rocket from turning all pokemon in the world into mindless slaves.
Sure, you fight with them. But what people don't remember is that it's an RPG. All RPGs have some sort of combat in them, and they almost always include beating up on wild animals, tamed animals, machines, etc. If PETA wants people to take them seriously, they will have to choose to attack a different industry.
However, PETA doesn't care if you take them seriously or not. They just want to stay alive and relevant.
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I wonder, is peta gonna look at starcraft next, and complain that zerglings are being abused?
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On October 10 2012 02:11 zhurai wrote:
I wonder, is peta gonna look at starcraft next, and complain that zerglings are being abused?
Kerrigan is breeding dogszerglings to fight back against their evil masters (the terrans). Sounds like something peta would support.
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These people are still around?
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I kinna get where they are coming from, but the thing is that not everyone thinks that how pokemon are treated is how real life animals or pets should be treated. If there ARE people that somehow are badly influenced by the pokemon series, and force their animals to 'battle', well, thats because that persons head is abit fucked up, its not the series' fault.
To put things more simple : people confusing pokemon for real life animals are the problem, its not the fictional series that is at fault.
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I seriously doubt anyone who has any power in PETA does this for anything other than making money.
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The way that Pokemon are stuffed into Pokeballs isn't similar to anything because 1. it's not real and 2. sci-fi pokeball technology shrinks the pokemon down so they fit comfortably into the pokeball and 3. did i mention IT IS NOT REAL
And obviously PETA has never watched the show because goddamn do they make sure that all the good characters just super mega love their pokemon and YOURE SUPPOSED TO LOVE THEM SO YOU WANT TO BUY THE TOYS AND THE VIDEO GAMES.
Sigh PETA. Just sigh.
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The only ones that abuse their pokemon in the show might be team rocket? The other characters show their love for them at many occasions.
Is it legal to use those pictures? Trademarked names and characters that look nearly the same. Don't some Japanese company own those images and are they protected from lawsuits?
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On October 10 2012 03:15 forestry wrote:
The only ones that abuse their pokemon in the show might be team rocket? The other characters show their love for them at many occasions.
Is it legal to use those pictures? Trademarked names and characters that look nearly the same. Don't some Japanese company own those images and are they protected from lawsuits?
From what I can remember, Ash gets Pikachu to fight until the poor little pokemon is all beat up on the ground covered in dirt. And seeing how bad they sometimes get beat up and they never seem to bleed, I assume that pokemon either don't have blood or the blood is censored because it's a kid's show. Either way they feel pain and discomfort and even the good characters are known to put them through that.
I loathe PETA and this is ridiculous, but Pokemon's premise is that you can catch all the pokemon and get them to fight in tournaments for glory.
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Most of the time I prefer animals over people. Ironically, stupid shit like this is why. So brilliant campaign I guess. Of course I'll never support them in anything they do because of it as well, but there's always a trade off.
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On October 10 2012 03:22 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 03:15 forestry wrote:
The only ones that abuse their pokemon in the show might be team rocket? The other characters show their love for them at many occasions.
Is it legal to use those pictures? Trademarked names and characters that look nearly the same. Don't some Japanese company own those images and are they protected from lawsuits? From what I can remember, Ash gets Pikachu to fight until the poor little pokemon is all beat up on the ground covered in dirt. And seeing how bad they sometimes get beat up and they never seem to bleed, I assume that pokemon either don't have blood or the blood is censored because it's a kid's show. Either way they feel pain and discomfort and even the good characters are known to put them through that. I loathe PETA and this is ridiculous, but Pokemon's premise is that you can catch all the pokemon and get them to fight in tournaments for glory.
Though fighting can't actually kill them. Ever. And a spin in a machine cures all ailments. If anything, the Pokemon game make children giant pussies, scared to walk in grass because ROUS and tweety birds will murder you the first chance they get. At least they always drag your unconscious body to safety after robbing you of half your money. The main character always get their tiny pokemon where the surrounding creatures are tame as hell. What happens to kids whose parents decided to buy a house on the victory road huh? Give the kid a lvl 5 pokemon so he can go get murdered? They better have a 94 rare candy deal ordered through Amazon and delivered right to home because there's no way to step outside the house. Can you even imagine if you walk in the grass with a fairly leveled up pokemon when a giant tiger comes and kick you in the nuts before running off just because some ass hole decides to go wake them from their slumber for no reason?
What this game needs is Link. No grass, no problem.
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just me that got alot of enjoyment from petas nude campaign when i was younger then??
To be honest peta was kind of my guide when becoming a vegetarian about 5 years ago but i think they need to choose their battles more wisely plus... As much as i love the smiths i fucking hate morrisey with a violent passion
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Well Pokemon is basically a fancy version of cock fighting or cricket fighting. You catch them, train them, and fight them.
I'm pretty fine with that though.
On the other hand, all the newer pokemon games really emphasize making your pokemon happy. You feed them berries and dress them up and have beauty contests or cooking contests and stuff to make them happy. Some don't even evolve unless they're happy with you.
PETA is pretty dumb though.
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Pokemon aren't animals. They are Pokemon.
Please PETA, tell me. What animal is Geodude? Machoke? Clefairy?
Just becuase Onix looks like a "snake" doesn't mean that it is. I can attach a happy face on a piece of paper to a swirly string. This doesn't make it a snake.
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Game Freak should make a PETA like organization the next arch-villain in the next Pokemon.
Oh wait.
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On October 10 2012 04:05 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If anything, the Pokemon game make children giant pussies, scared to walk in grass because ROUS and tweety birds will murder you the first chance they get.
hahahaha I couldnt help but laugh at that comment. O boy, good ol' times.
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On October 10 2012 03:22 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 03:15 forestry wrote:
The only ones that abuse their pokemon in the show might be team rocket? The other characters show their love for them at many occasions.
Is it legal to use those pictures? Trademarked names and characters that look nearly the same. Don't some Japanese company own those images and are they protected from lawsuits? From what I can remember, Ash gets Pikachu to fight until the poor little pokemon is all beat up on the ground covered in dirt. And seeing how bad they sometimes get beat up and they never seem to bleed, I assume that pokemon either don't have blood or the blood is censored because it's a kid's show. Either way they feel pain and discomfort and even the good characters are known to put them through that. I loathe PETA and this is ridiculous, but Pokemon's premise is that you can catch all the pokemon and get them to fight in tournaments for glory.
But this is the purpose of pokemon. To be pokemon. Often enough Ash and the others gets struck by a pokemon attack aswell. If anything, pokemon makes "animals" look like they have souls, spirits and wills.
Even the "premise" of animals fighting should not be new. It is as old as biological life. Animals fight over anything. "The good guys" do in no way mistreat their pokemon in anything they do. Not even when fighting in the arena. Never are they treated badly.
Household pets are also about "catching" animals. You buy them and keep them, and make sure they never run away. It's not natural. The animals are not living like animals, they are living to fulfill the needs of humans. Yet they are not treated badly (in general). Just as pikachu is never treated badly either. If anything, pikachu faces struggles, the same as Ash, and is not a helpless innocent animal without a soul or dreams -- he has more human qualities than any real animal I ever saw, atleast. I'll leave it at that. This topic feels abundantly stupid.
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Silly PETA. Just because I watched pokemon growing up doesn't mean I will be more inclined to watch cockfights (even though that's what pokemon amounts to).
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I don't even...seriously?? Wow...omfg, wow.
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On October 10 2012 05:22 Cutlery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 03:22 Djzapz wrote:On October 10 2012 03:15 forestry wrote:
The only ones that abuse their pokemon in the show might be team rocket? The other characters show their love for them at many occasions.
Is it legal to use those pictures? Trademarked names and characters that look nearly the same. Don't some Japanese company own those images and are they protected from lawsuits? From what I can remember, Ash gets Pikachu to fight until the poor little pokemon is all beat up on the ground covered in dirt. And seeing how bad they sometimes get beat up and they never seem to bleed, I assume that pokemon either don't have blood or the blood is censored because it's a kid's show. Either way they feel pain and discomfort and even the good characters are known to put them through that. I loathe PETA and this is ridiculous, but Pokemon's premise is that you can catch all the pokemon and get them to fight in tournaments for glory. But this is the purpose of pokemon. To be pokemon. Often enough Ash and the others gets struck by a pokemon attack aswell. If anything, pokemon makes "animals" look like they have souls, spirits and wills.
this is the kind of thinking that peta reacts strongly to. the purpose of a pokemon is determined by itself, not by its use by humans.
btw that peta game is hilarious
edit: fuck yea nurse joy
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That just proves they're joking. I hope..
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On October 10 2012 06:46 Incognoto wrote:That just proves they're joking. I hope..
it's just a more elaborate team plasma slashfic. the game is pretty well made and even has recoil for takedown. so they do play a lot of pokemon and are just annoyed by the treatment of team plasma in the game, which may be a parody of peta-ish organizations in the pokemon world.
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There's nothing better than naming your Pokemon "FUCK BITCHES" and using Shame on the evil Ash. Peta >
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Although I must say that the "do you liek mudkipz' bullshit lost any shred of credibility they might have had.
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