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On August 03 2012 22:48 SiroKO wrote:
Moving your fingers on a keyboard shouldn't be considerd a sport.
It's gaming.
Enough of that "e-Sport" crap.
If you can't tell the difference between a sport and Starcraft 2, I suggest you run 10 km, then try 3 series of 50 push-ups, 50 abdominal exercices, 10 pull-ups, then go swimming for a hour... After all that, compare your degree of fatigue with the one you usually have after staying at home eating pizza and proxy 2 raxing on Ladder.
Neither olympics' athletes do that there. So your argument is veeery bad.
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Starcraft is probably similar in athletic requirements to ping pong, which is an olympic sport. All you really need is fast hands.
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none of them, imo OS should always be about physical competition, it should not be "defiled" (yes that is my own very biased opinion) by money-hungry companies, it should be something that people pay for through taxes.
esports should create their own culture, traditions, events etc instead of trying to get in on what's already well-established.
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I don't think eSports belong to Olympics, but oh my god, those guys in the video are just horrible: terribad puns/ecc... It's the first time I prefer my TV programs over foreigner ones. And I live in Italy 
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:foxnews:
It will never happen in this generation. Although I could see in the future perhaps an "e-Olympics" coming about.
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On August 03 2012 15:52 Loanshark wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 15:13 mahO wrote:
You clearly have no freaking idea what you're talking about. If you go that way, I'd say that Starcraft 2 excellence is even harder to reach than most Olympics sports on a mental and physical level (you really believe it is easy to play 8 hours a day (on average) for 3 years, both mentally and physically?), lots of sports doesnt require such training, a lot of athletes have a job and still win at the olympics, find me one pro gamer capable of being top 10 SC2 in the world that doesnt play full time? Point made.
You clearly have no freaking idea what you're talking about. And I'm serious. Do you honestly think that Olympic athletes train less than SC2 players? Do you think gold medal divers, swimmers, runners, rowers, throwers, fencers, gymnasts etc. have other jobs? 8 hours a day for 3 years sounds like a lot, then you realize that these athletes have been working at their craft since elementary school for many of them. Do you think any SC2 or any esports player, ever, will match up to athletes like Michael Phelps in terms of dedication and training? Either you haven't seen the Olympic games for a few decades or you should consider applying for the Special Olympics.
huhuhuhu smart on the last one huhuhuhu. Noticed that I said "lots of sports"? Yeah, there is a shitload of Olympic sports that doesnt require as much comitment as SC2, you do actually realize that korean pro gamers train 10 hours a day? Like really 10 hours? You cant run for 10 hours a day, you cant swim constantly for 10 hours a day, so yes, and lets not even talk about Bow, Revolvers etc. I'm not taking away anything from athletes, they invest themselves in what they do 100% for the ones who win, but the guy I answered to was talking like being an athlete requires much more time and effort than being a SC2 pro, which is 100% false, the 2 cant even compare tbh, except on the time sacrifice, and on that yeah most pros would envy the free time (most) athletes have.
You could run the Special Olympics too, obviously you're blind
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Trust me, being a pro athlete is painful. I think pro athletes envy progamers
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On August 03 2012 23:17 IGotPlayguuu wrote:I don't think eSports belong to Olympics, but oh my god, those guys in the video are just horrible: terribad puns/ecc... It's the first time I prefer my TV programs over foreigner ones. And I live in Italy
hahaha Oh man this is completely offtopic but I've seen a couple of tv-shows from Italy, do they sing that song about Berlusconi every day?
Italian Television is basically brainwashing funded by Berlusconi 
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Doing this would set competitive gaming back years. I am completely, utterly and fundamentally against including video games in the olympics.
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To those trying to say pro-athletes and pro-gamers are worlds apart... they aren't. I haven't been a pro-gamer, but I know lots of poeple who are pro-gamers and I personally have been a World-class athlete. The dedication and the sheer hours of training and thinking that go into being "the best" is a whole other world. I really hate to sound conceited or anything, but when you reach that level, its really not something anyone who hasn't been a world-class athlete or a true front-and-center-stage pro-gamer has the capability to understand.
No matter if you're arguing which one is "harder" or "more taxing", the dedication, hard work and the desire to be #1 is there. If that's not in the proper competitive spirit for being an Olympic-contender, I don't know what is. Also if you don't think pro-gamers spend hours and hours thinking/playing/testing things just like pro-athletes, perhaps some of the pro-gamers who read these forums would kindly come lay some knowledge on you.
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I know that dance dance revolution is officially considered a sport.
But I really dislike the idea of making a game that is owned by a profit making company a olympic game.
If an esport would ever become annn official olympic sport, I would demand it to be non profit, as in free to download to everyone with no advertisement anywhere.
Im not an expert on copyright laws on tetris, but I know that multiple companies have made their own version, and you can play it free online. This is why I voted for tetris.
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actually there are quite a few limits for olympic sports, for example engines must not be involved, that's why I am very sceptic about videogames being allowed - the video is just ridicilous, I have a hard time believing anything these two journalists(lol) say
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On August 03 2012 23:42 Sea_Food wrote:
I know that dance dance revolution is officially considered a sport.
But I really dislike the idea of making a game that is owned by a profit making company a olympic game.
If an esport would ever become annn official olympic sport, I would demand it to be non profit, as in free to download to everyone with no advertisement anywhere.
Im not an expert on copyright laws on tetris, but I know that multiple companies have made their own version, and you can play it free online. This is why I voted for tetris.
Well buying a comp + sc2 isint so different than buying a bow + arrows
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On August 03 2012 23:42 Sea_Food wrote:
I know that dance dance revolution is officially considered a sport.
But I really dislike the idea of making a game that is owned by a profit making company a olympic game.
If an esport would ever become annn official olympic sport, I would demand it to be non profit, as in free to download to everyone with no advertisement anywhere.
Im not an expert on copyright laws on tetris, but I know that multiple companies have made their own version, and you can play it free online. This is why I voted for tetris.
i had not thought about this, but i think you made a good point.
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I guess I wouldn't mind seeing Starcraft as an olympic sport; but obviously feeling reluctant, since it doesn't really fit more traditional sports already included in the olympics. It still feels too niche - most people will not understand what is going on. If anything more traditional games will make it into the olympics before starcraft. Chess for example, is officially considered a sport, and I believe almost made it into an olympic event a long time ago? If we're including games that don't really require much physical force/athleticism, we'd have to expand the definition of what it means to be an olympian - how about poker? or settlers of catan? monopoly? Imo, better just to keep these events separate.
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Where's my "broodwar" button?
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On August 03 2012 07:33 Rabbitmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 07:30 aeroblaster wrote:
You put LoL up on that list but not Dota 2? mega hard fail dude I agree, but as of now, LoL is vastly more popular. Atleast from my experience.
Just wait until the International 2.....
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On August 04 2012 00:06 Flamingo777 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 07:33 Rabbitmaster wrote:On August 03 2012 07:30 aeroblaster wrote:
You put LoL up on that list but not Dota 2? mega hard fail dude I agree, but as of now, LoL is vastly more popular. Atleast from my experience. Just wait until the International 2.....
Dota international 2? The recent ESL for LoL got over 155k live viewers. Hannover for LoL got 250k live viewers from the finals, also. I don't think DoTA international 2 will come close to even half that at the finals of hannover. The only reason international 1 had a strong amount of viewers was because it was the first time Valve showed their new game and people wanted to see it. I don't think international 2 will be as popular, we'll see.
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I don't know how I feel about adding eSports to the Olympics, I feel like it should be specific to physical sports.
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If any video game made it into the Olympics.. would be a joke -_-..
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