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On July 26 2012 06:54 Praetorial wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 06:45 TheBatman wrote:On July 26 2012 05:53 Praetorial wrote:Baller! I live in Boston, and I for one would love to see that bastion of Southern bigotry get out of my city! Heck, use eminent domain, zoning laws, whatever. Just get them gone! Just look at this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a-president-anti-gay_n_1680984.html
I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, 'We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage,' and I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about
Disgusting. how is it disgusting? Or do you just not like people talking about religion Allow me to clarify, as the only open Bostonian here. The position of Boston is, as you have all correctly pointed out, very liberal. We do indeed believe that gay marriage is justifiable and should be legal, and we've legalized it. We believe that some amount of marijuana can be carried on a person, so it was allowed. We base policy on what the current political feeling of the city is. Does that sound familiar? I bet it does, since all of your cities regardless of where you live in the states do the same. If the people want something, they can elect officials or petition that something be done. We DO NOT LIKE people giving money to anti-gay organizations. Those people are ostracized, confined to the company of people like themselves if they make it publicly known that that is how they feel. When a person at the top of an organization gives money to a political agenda, conservative or otherwise, we don't care at all. WHEN A COMPANY gives money to an organization, even by the direction of the people at the top, you know what happens?People get pissed off and angry about it. And then they start petitions, get all flustered about it. Eventually, the mayor gets that and bans the organization-not because he has a penchant for violating freedom of speech, but because the people of boston don't want it. And let me be very very clear. THE PEOPLE OF BOSTON DON'T WANT A RESTAURANT CHAIN DONATING TO AN ANTI-GAY AGENDA, and that is why it is being banned.
Your mayor's stance on city doing what city wants sounds awfully like what the state representatives and senates claimed on the position of slavery in the southern secession states pre-civil war.
Unlike in other cases of city bans, Boston being a major US city...wondering if this will bring the Feds into the matter.
On July 26 2012 06:34 xrapture wrote:
I'm gay myself, but I still think this is America and people should have the right to voice their opinion without getting dogpiled...
So it's ok to discriminate against people with views different than yours? What makes you better than the anti-gay marriage people then?
And I didn't take it that the mayor is "banning" Chic Filet, it seemed more of a "please don't come to our city because you aren't welcomed."
Not gay myself, but definitely in favor of gay rights...but I have to agree with xrapture here. Especially with his last statement. In the case of bans based on non-related matters (in this case, a non business related reason to ban a business from operation), even with widespread approval of the people of the city of Boston as Praetorial claims, there is a concerning precedence being set here.
Think of it this way: assuming Feds get into this and courts rule in favor of Boston, precedence is set for other cities to do the same for similar, yet worse reasons (drawing similarities to what Texas's governor Rick Perry tried to do a couple years back that got shot down...).
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On July 26 2012 07:24 CajunMan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:21 Sermokala wrote:
Its weird to see a company have religious views and be public about supporting their beliefs. It'll score them a ton of points in the bible belt and in Idaho but they shouldn't be surprised when they get run out of more liberal mined cities. granted the koch brothers have done a ton more then chic but they keep their private opinions out of their corporate life.
I don't think it really matters at this point what the government does in Boston. the publicity from this has probably done enough to kill them in the city. If anything this is all going to their plan. I hear black people like the company and the food they sell. Making the company take away what black people like might connect black people to not liking the gay rights movement. From a meta gaming point of view its a pretty good move you got to say. Seems like something a Liberal would think of 99% of black people LOVE chicken!!! Right is that what your saying? Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:24 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2012 07:20 CajunMan wrote:On July 26 2012 07:13 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2012 07:07 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:01 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2012 06:57 jdseemoreglass wrote:On July 26 2012 06:53 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2012 06:48 GwSC wrote:On July 26 2012 06:44 KwarK wrote:
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You're missing the point where the owner merged his own personal views on it with the company and gave his company a corporate stance on the matter. Saying "individuals have views" doesn't mean anything in this case. You've entirely misunderstood what happened here and then attempted to make an odd straw man where people in favour of it want to force everyone into interrogation chambers. Please try not to do that again.
I don't understand, are you saying that this being a corporate stance, it is ok for the business to be banned? What is wrong with having a corporate stance that some people disagree with? Is it normal for government to be able to force out corporations with unpopular beliefs? If that is not what you meant, disregard. I'm saying it's okay for a city to decide what happens within that city as long as it doesn't discriminate against people on the grounds of race, gender, religion, disability etc. It'd be wrong for a city to say "no Mosques" but not wrong to say "no fast food". People deciding what kind of society they want to live in and trying to shape their society to improve it in their eyes is a good thing and they have the democratic right to do so. Chic-Fil-A has a corporate stance on the issue, they have stated what they believe in, the people of the city have a right to reject them based upon it. But if they state that their stance on gay marriage is dictated by religion, then the city IS effectively discriminating against a religious belief. You could say that the religion is discriminating against gays to begin with, but people are allowed to discriminate, government institutions are not. I'm pretty sure freedom of worship ends the same place all the other freedoms end, when you start impacting upon other people. Christianity doesn't require its members to use their corporations to further anti-gay agendas but even if you came up with a religion that did and then claimed discrimination was exercising your religious freedom it'd get struck down. You have the right to the private exercising of your beliefs, what Chic-Fil-A did was take a public corporate stance. A private company has the same right a private individual does to take a political stance. But not the right to do business wherever they want regardless of the wishes of the society where they wish to do business. Nobody is saying they can't take a political stance, they have taken one and it has been judged as conflicting with the wishes of the people of the city who are therefore rejecting them on the basis of it. As they are rejecting them on grounds other than race, disability or religion (which as a company they don't actually have) then it's all fine. Actually they do its for the same reason the KKK can rally or march anywhere in the USA and the same reason Muslims can open a Mosque next to the twin tower memorial. If you don't like the business you don't have to buy anything but you cannot deny them access based on there beliefs. On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right?  Yes I said "grounds other than religion" to which you replied "but Muslims can open a Mosque". Please try again. You can't separate the 2 discrimination in any form is discrimination please try again.
Discrimination simply means choosing rejecting something on some grounds. I could discriminate against a job applicant on the basis that he showed up late to the interview and I thought he wasn't punctual. That would be discrimination against lateness. I could discriminate against poor dressers. People can and do discriminate and it is not a bad thing, it is just another word for selection. Discrimination on the grounds of race or religion have been judged as bad things but this is not a judgement on discrimination as a whole.
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On July 26 2012 07:30 Ryalnos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it. It's ambiguous as hell. You could say the same statement about theft, pedophilia, etc. I just didn't want to go there.
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That's the point.
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On July 26 2012 07:29 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it. Iirc, it is against the law to do this. It is not against the law to ban gay marriage. I attempted and succeeded
I'm pretty sure banning gay marraige is against the law here dummy.
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On July 26 2012 07:32 APurpleCow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:30 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it. It's ambiguous as hell. You could say the same statement about theft, pedophilia, etc. I just didn't want to go there. ... That's the point.
If so, I have been defeated by the internet & perhaps myself. I see too much of this shit from, say, acquaintances on facebook (on both sides of the spectrum) that my sarcasm-o-meter has lost its calibration .
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On July 26 2012 07:32 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:29 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it. Iirc, it is against the law to do this. It is not against the law to ban gay marriage. I attempted and succeeded I'm pretty sure banning gay marraige is against the law here dummy.
I live in North Carolina. It actually is the law!
Whether it is right or wrong is a different discussion.
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On July 26 2012 07:32 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:29 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it. Iirc, it is against the law to do this. It is not against the law to ban gay marriage. I attempted and succeeded I'm pretty sure banning gay marraige is against the law here dummy.
Here is not Netherlands dummy, here is the US, where it is legal.
On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right?
This is funny.
Honestly, if I were to agree with the first sentence, how the hell could I react to the weirder things you could replace gay marriage with?
I couldn't.
I don't know what this means.
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You are arguing against positions I (a) haven't said I support and (b) don't actually support.
On July 26 2012 07:10 DeepElemBlues wrote:
It is speech. Disseminating views takes money. That is just an opinion and a controversial one, but it is the opinion of the US Supreme Court as far as American law goes and I think it is a correct opinion.
I am indeed not well versed in American law, so I apologise if in America donations are indeed seen as speech (doesn't make sense to me). Regardless, my position remains true: no person's rights will have been infringed upon.
On July 26 2012 07:10 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Why are you so upset that people are free to speak and behave in ways you don't like?
I have not claimed to be. Of course, there are limits to free speech (take hate speech for example). So we do forbid people of saying certain things in certain ways because we dislike it.
On July 26 2012 07:10 DeepElemBlues wrote:
You're splitting hairs to defend fascism.
No, I'm showing why certain comments about freedom of speech and thought police (especially) were misplaced. I'm not defending fascism (lol), although for some reason you seem to think I am.
On July 26 2012 07:10 DeepElemBlues wrote:
If you support denying a business a permit based on opinions held and distributed by its executives personally or through the company, you're supporting fascism. Simple as that.
I have not claimed to support denying Chic-fil-a (or any other business) a permit. I did claim that it would not be an offense against freedom of thought or speech. There may well be other reasons not to do so.
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On July 26 2012 07:34 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:32 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:29 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it. Iirc, it is against the law to do this. It is not against the law to ban gay marriage. I attempted and succeeded I'm pretty sure banning gay marraige is against the law here dummy. I live in North Carolina. It actually is the law! Whether it is right or wrong is a different discussion.
reading comprehension is a useful skil tho have (we're talking about boston)
same as studying facism for sometimes it prevents to appear as a total idiot :D
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This smells a lot like the famous Canadian case regarding the rule of law:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roncarelli_v._Duplessis
To put it shortly, a politician may have the authority to do something (i.e. revoke a liquor license, or block a business from setting up shop), but is still accountable and should act in good faith (i.e. should only revoke or block for reasons that are in the spirit of the power to revoke).
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On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it.
So child pornography is okay?
I don't disagree with gay marriage but your blanket statement was really awfully worded.
This is ridiculously stupid, even if I don't agree with what the CEO said...
1) He made the remarks in an interview, he was asked the question. He didn't go around openly criticizing.
2) How does this affect the business? I live in Canada so we don't have Chick-fil-a. If you don't want to support them, don't. But it's a perfectly legitimate business being brought down by a vengeful (or politically savvy) mayor.
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It's a cute note but don't think it'll hold up legally. I may wholeheartedly agree with his sentiment I don't think he can make this call.
As long as the fucking retarded "corporations are people!" thing stands there's literally no way you can tell them where or where they can't go through these means. You can use the zoning argument to stop them if you want.
I'm cool with the mayor saying "go fuck yourself". I'm cool with people picketing the places and making it known they're not welcome within the law. You just can't tell them where they can or can't go based on their beliefs, regardless of how backwards and retarded they might be.
You can love em or hate em, you can love or hate the KKK, you can love or hate the Westboro Baptist Church. But they're within their rights saying what they want.
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
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On July 26 2012 07:31 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:24 CajunMan wrote:On July 26 2012 07:21 Sermokala wrote:
Its weird to see a company have religious views and be public about supporting their beliefs. It'll score them a ton of points in the bible belt and in Idaho but they shouldn't be surprised when they get run out of more liberal mined cities. granted the koch brothers have done a ton more then chic but they keep their private opinions out of their corporate life.
I don't think it really matters at this point what the government does in Boston. the publicity from this has probably done enough to kill them in the city. If anything this is all going to their plan. I hear black people like the company and the food they sell. Making the company take away what black people like might connect black people to not liking the gay rights movement. From a meta gaming point of view its a pretty good move you got to say. Seems like something a Liberal would think of 99% of black people LOVE chicken!!! Right is that what your saying? On July 26 2012 07:24 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2012 07:20 CajunMan wrote:On July 26 2012 07:13 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2012 07:07 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:01 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2012 06:57 jdseemoreglass wrote:On July 26 2012 06:53 KwarK wrote:On July 26 2012 06:48 GwSC wrote:
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I don't understand, are you saying that this being a corporate stance, it is ok for the business to be banned? What is wrong with having a corporate stance that some people disagree with? Is it normal for government to be able to force out corporations with unpopular beliefs? If that is not what you meant, disregard.
I'm saying it's okay for a city to decide what happens within that city as long as it doesn't discriminate against people on the grounds of race, gender, religion, disability etc. It'd be wrong for a city to say "no Mosques" but not wrong to say "no fast food". People deciding what kind of society they want to live in and trying to shape their society to improve it in their eyes is a good thing and they have the democratic right to do so. Chic-Fil-A has a corporate stance on the issue, they have stated what they believe in, the people of the city have a right to reject them based upon it. But if they state that their stance on gay marriage is dictated by religion, then the city IS effectively discriminating against a religious belief. You could say that the religion is discriminating against gays to begin with, but people are allowed to discriminate, government institutions are not. I'm pretty sure freedom of worship ends the same place all the other freedoms end, when you start impacting upon other people. Christianity doesn't require its members to use their corporations to further anti-gay agendas but even if you came up with a religion that did and then claimed discrimination was exercising your religious freedom it'd get struck down. You have the right to the private exercising of your beliefs, what Chic-Fil-A did was take a public corporate stance. A private company has the same right a private individual does to take a political stance. But not the right to do business wherever they want regardless of the wishes of the society where they wish to do business. Nobody is saying they can't take a political stance, they have taken one and it has been judged as conflicting with the wishes of the people of the city who are therefore rejecting them on the basis of it. As they are rejecting them on grounds other than race, disability or religion (which as a company they don't actually have) then it's all fine. Actually they do its for the same reason the KKK can rally or march anywhere in the USA and the same reason Muslims can open a Mosque next to the twin tower memorial. If you don't like the business you don't have to buy anything but you cannot deny them access based on there beliefs. On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? Yes I said "grounds other than religion" to which you replied "but Muslims can open a Mosque". Please try again. You can't separate the 2 discrimination in any form is discrimination please try again. Discrimination simply means choosing rejecting something on some grounds. I could discriminate against a job applicant on the basis that he showed up late to the interview and I thought he wasn't punctual. That would be discrimination against lateness. I could discriminate against poor dressers. People can and do discriminate and it is not a bad thing, it is just another word for selection. Discrimination on the grounds of race or religion have been judged as bad things but this is not a judgement on discrimination as a whole.
It defiantly is what if everyone who was late for work ever got banned from Boston would that be acceptable?
On July 26 2012 07:27 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:21 Sermokala wrote:
I hear black people like the company and the food they sell. Making the company take away what black people like might connect black people to not liking the gay rights movement. From a meta gaming point of view its a pretty good move you got to say.
I live in Charlotte, NC. Majority of people here are black. (I am white) Black people do not like gays at all from what I have seen.
This has to do with the area you live in NC has a very christian/Baptist population of Blacks which would explain that. With Atlanta being the capital of Gays in the USA now with more gays per square foot than anywhere else lol you almost don't notice people could careless here 99% of the time regardless of Religion.
On July 26 2012 07:36 OuchyDathurts wrote:
It's a cute note but don't think it'll hold up legally. I may wholeheartedly agree with his sentiment I don't think he can make this call.
As long as the fucking retarded "corporations are people!" thing stands there's literally no way you can tell them where or where they can't go through these means. You can use the zoning argument to stop them if you want.
I'm cool with the mayor saying "go fuck yourself". I'm cool with people picketing the places and making it known they're not welcome within the law. You just can't tell them where they can or can't go based on their beliefs, regardless of how backwards and retarded they might be.
You can love em or hate em, you can love or hate the KKK, you can love or hate the Westboro Baptist Church. But they're within their rights saying what they want.
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Amen
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this decision, if it is enforced is utterly retarded, and it should never be under a mayors authority to shutdown a business from the city.
swear to god this could only happen in MURRRICAAA, the land of the free
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On July 26 2012 07:34 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:32 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:29 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it. Iirc, it is against the law to do this. It is not against the law to ban gay marriage. I attempted and succeeded I'm pretty sure banning gay marraige is against the law here dummy. I live in North Carolina. It actually is the law! Whether it is right or wrong is a different discussion.
Is it? Gay marriage is legal in the city in question, isn't the discussion pretty relevant?
I mean, they are promoting something illegal (anti-gay marriage) and they are being removed from the particular city. If Chick-fil-A was banned within the U.S.A. while gay marriage remains a state issue, then the discussion would be red herring but not this one.
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On July 26 2012 07:35 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:34 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:32 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:29 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it. Iirc, it is against the law to do this. It is not against the law to ban gay marriage. I attempted and succeeded I'm pretty sure banning gay marraige is against the law here dummy. I live in North Carolina. It actually is the law! Whether it is right or wrong is a different discussion. reading comprehension is a useful skil tho have (we're talking about boston) same as studying facism for sometimes it prevents to appear as a total idiot :D
Actually we are talking about the United States as a whole. When discussing the American Constitution, we are usually talking about America. And for the most part, it is legal to ban gay marriage in America.
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On July 26 2012 07:29 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +I'm arguing the right of the society to shape itself and choose whom it associates with That's different from what you've been saying for three posts prior to this.
I've consistently been arguing that if the society says "we don't want to associate with a business which contradicts our civic ethos" then they have the right to do so.
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On July 26 2012 07:38 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:35 sAsImre wrote:On July 26 2012 07:34 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:32 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:29 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it. Iirc, it is against the law to do this. It is not against the law to ban gay marriage. I attempted and succeeded I'm pretty sure banning gay marraige is against the law here dummy. I live in North Carolina. It actually is the law! Whether it is right or wrong is a different discussion. reading comprehension is a useful skil tho have (we're talking about boston) same as studying facism for sometimes it prevents to appear as a total idiot :D Actually we are talking about the United States as a whole. When discussing the American Constitution, we are usually talking about America. And for the most part, it is legal to ban gay marriage in America.
you discussed about legality not constitutionnality
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This is terrible. I personally support gay marriage and so I am at odds with Chic-Fil-A's position, but that does not mean that in any way shape or form that it should be banned for having an opinion. What if the governor of Mississippi decided to ban Google because it's pro gay marriage? (I'm not sure he actually could, but it's the point that matters) Everyone here would be screaming bloody murder...
Let the customers decide if Chic-Fil-A's stance should hurt their sales.
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On July 26 2012 07:39 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 07:38 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:35 sAsImre wrote:On July 26 2012 07:34 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:32 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:29 autoexec wrote:On July 26 2012 07:25 Crushinator wrote:On July 26 2012 07:23 Ryalnos wrote:On July 26 2012 07:19 Sandtrout wrote:So, the people here who say you shouldn't ban something just because you don't agree with it. That means you're all supporting gay marriage, right? What a throwaway statement if I ever saw it. There are many awful directions to go in to mock this statement but it would just be too easy. I find it to be a great statement. Please attempt to mock it. Iirc, it is against the law to do this. It is not against the law to ban gay marriage. I attempted and succeeded I'm pretty sure banning gay marraige is against the law here dummy. I live in North Carolina. It actually is the law! Whether it is right or wrong is a different discussion. reading comprehension is a useful skil tho have (we're talking about boston) same as studying facism for sometimes it prevents to appear as a total idiot :D Actually we are talking about the United States as a whole. When discussing the American Constitution, we are usually talking about America. And for the most part, it is legal to ban gay marriage in America. you discussed about legality not constitutionnality
First of all, if constitutionality is a word, then that is awesome :D
Second, when the legality is about the Constitution being broken, since the constitution is the supreme law of America, then yes, it is about constitutionality.
Man I love that word...
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