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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-21 03:11:46
December 21 2005 03:09 GMT
#1
In light of a bunch of political correctness bullshit going on in the U.S. i've found these e-mails appropriate.

[image loading]

This is a Christmas tree.
It is not a Hanukkah bush,
it is not an Allah plant,
it is not a Holiday hedge.
It is a Christmas tree.

Say it... CHRISTmas , CHRISTmas , CHRISTmas

Yes. CHRISTmas - celebrating the Birth of Jesus Christ!!!

If this offends you...too bad.

Get over it ~
-----------------------------------


Paul Harvey and Prayer



Paul Harvey says:

I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue
somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I
don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a
lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory
of evolution.

Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be
endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer
before a football game.

So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there
reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a
God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the
players on the field and the fans going home from the game.

"But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue.

Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country
founded on Christian principles. According to our very
own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others
better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody
chanting Hare Krishna?

If I went to a football game in Jerusalem,
I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.


If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad,
I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.


If I went to a ping pong match in China,
I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.


And I wouldn't be offended.
It wouldn't bother me one bit.
When in Rome .

"But what about the atheists?" is another argument.

What about them?
Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to
pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If
that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear
plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand.
Call your lawyer!

Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or
two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do.
I don't think a short prayer at a football game is
going to shake the world's foundations.

Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other
cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our
parents and grandparents taught us to pray before
eating; to pray before we go to sleep.

Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a
handful of people and their lawyers are telling us
to cease praying.

God, help us.
And if that last sentence offends you,
well ... just sue me.

The silent majority has been silent too long. It's time we
let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard
that the vast majority don't care what they want. It
is time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't
have to pray; you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance;
you don't have to believe in God or attend services that
honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your
right. But by golly, you are no longer going to take our
rights away. We are fighting back ...
and we WILL WIN!

God bless us one and all ... especially those who denounce
Him. God bless America, despite all her faults. She is still
the greatest nation of all.

God bless our service men who are fighting to protect
our right to pray and worship God.


May 2005 be the year the silent majority is heard
and we put God back as the foundation of our
families and institutions.




how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
pfff
Profile Joined May 2004
Belgium1352 Posts
December 21 2005 03:14 GMT
#2
God bless America, despite all her faults. She is still
the greatest nation of all.

haha, just read throught it really fast, but i love it how so-called christians can be so unchristian
It ain’t no sin to be glad you’re alive
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
December 21 2005 03:20 GMT
#3
Happy Holidays!
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 21 2005 03:28 GMT
#4
I totally agree with the man. Sometimes political correctness is ridiculous and annoys the hell out of me. If people want to call it a Christmas tree, let them call it a christmas tree. If they want to call it christmas break, why the hell do you care so much?

Seriously though, a christmas tree also really have no "religious" connotations with it so I don't really see why people even care what it is called? It has traditionally been called a christmas tree, just keep it at that.
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
December 21 2005 03:36 GMT
#5
George Bush, You claim to be a devout Christian.. Whatcha gonna do about the recent tendencies man?
1tym is one time for your mind
mitsy
Profile Joined October 2005
United States1792 Posts
December 21 2005 03:39 GMT
#6
somebody's been watching fox news. the "let us call it a christmas tree" campaign is purely run by them
express yourself--madonna
bburn
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1039 Posts
December 21 2005 03:43 GMT
#7
On December 21 2005 12:39 mitsy wrote:
somebody's been watching fox news. the "let us call it a christmas tree" campaign is purely run by them

What the hell else is there to call it?
banana[AfO]
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
December 21 2005 03:46 GMT
#8
"fair and balanced christmas tree campaign"
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x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
December 21 2005 03:59 GMT
#9
Thats one of the only articles written by a christian that I completely agree with (aside from the god bless USA bullshit).
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
DTDominion
Profile Joined November 2005
United States2148 Posts
December 21 2005 04:14 GMT
#10
not calling christmas trees christmas trees is fucking retarded

menorahs aren't called "holiday candle posts"

this islamic crescent isn't called the "holiday crescent"

why the fuck is a christmas tree different...
rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
December 21 2005 04:21 GMT
#11
I bet all the Jews mad about the Christmas tree in Boston don't complain about their Christmas bonus. I figure this: We will call it a holiday tree, and they don't get their Christmas bonus, since it offends them so much.
max_power
Profile Joined April 2005
Slovakia163 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-21 04:31:33
December 21 2005 04:31 GMT
#12
God bless America, despite all her faults. She is still
the greatest nation of all


the greatest nation is by FAR New Zealand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
mitsy
Profile Joined October 2005
United States1792 Posts
December 21 2005 04:38 GMT
#13
fox news has been boiling the blood of their viewers by portraying "the evil liberal hollywood world that is out to stop them from being christian" as "trying to be too PC" calling them "holiday trees"

what an important story
express yourself--madonna
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
December 21 2005 04:39 GMT
#14
Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other
cheek


another pseudo-christian
ppl who call themselves christians are a little dumb, ppl who actually are christians are really really dumb (luckily that's just a really small part)
offended? call your lawyer!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-21 08:14:01
December 21 2005 08:12 GMT
#15
On December 21 2005 12:28 Klogon wrote:
I totally agree with the man. Sometimes political correctness is ridiculous and annoys the hell out of me. If people want to call it a Christmas tree, let them call it a christmas tree. If they want to call it christmas break, why the hell do you care so much?

Seriously though, a christmas tree also really have no "religious" connotations with it so I don't really see why people even care what it is called? It has traditionally been called a christmas tree, just keep it at that.

.. I don't live in america so obviously I'm missing out on something here..
You guys are arguing about what to call a fucking tree?
A TREE?

.....

And there's actually people who complain about people praying!?!? What the fuck?
Are you sure? I mean, this isn't some joke? The lawyer bits.. they are actually serious..?


Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or
two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do.
I don't think a short prayer at a football game is
going to shake the world's foundations.

This was hilarious tho, given how christians, traditionally, have always been very fond of enforcing their beliefs upon others.

Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
pfff
Profile Joined May 2004
Belgium1352 Posts
December 21 2005 08:47 GMT
#16
people are complaining about christmas being called christmas cuz its a christian name, so they want to have holiday trees instead of christmas trees and stuff like that, its really retarded, but honestly, christians getting all pissed off because of it is equally retarded.
It ain’t no sin to be glad you’re alive
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-21 08:52:14
December 21 2005 08:47 GMT
#17
In the U.S. there is a movement to secularize Christmas, led by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Americans United for the Seperation of Church and State. They threaten local authorities with lawsuits if they have things like a Christmas tree displayed on public property ^^; And unfortunately, many of those threats suceed because the authorities do not understand that secular symbols LIKE THE CHRISTMAS TREE have been recognized by the Supreme Court as such. It's a different story when the display is purely religious, like a nativity scene or a cross, in some situations those have been recognized as unconstitutional government endorsement of religion.

Anyway in a couple cities and even the U.S. Capitol Christmas trees are being silently renamed "Holiday trees" and it's ridiculous. So much so that there's now a small backlash from the conservative right led by Fox News. A Christmas tree is a Christmas tree, I think it's stupid that people even have to argue this.

As for prayer, they weren't complaining about people praying by themselves, I believe the issue is state sponsored prayer i.e. having the school administrators lead the audience in a Christian prayer using the public address system before each game. That is something that has been banned in our country. Paul Harvey's idea of tolerating government sponsored prayer, because after all it is only 30 seconds of your life, is a nice one in theory. And I'd subscribe to it if people were reasonable. Unfortunately they are not and we can't allow there to be de minimus violations of the Establishment Clause because once we have crossed that line there's no proper place to draw it again. I'm also worried that in some relatively recent cases the courts have pushed the balance too far against religion by banning cases where the students and not government agents like teachers/coaches/school administrators are sponsoring or endorsing the prayer message.


America: Land of the Free, Home of the Brave. Where people sue each other demanding a Christmas Tree be called a Holiday Tree and where major news networks pick up and run with the story.
日本語が分かりますか
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
December 21 2005 08:52 GMT
#18
On December 21 2005 13:31 max_power wrote:
Show nested quote +
God bless America, despite all her faults. She is still
the greatest nation of all


the greatest nation is by FAR New Zealand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D


You don't even live there! Wtf you on oO
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10691 Posts
December 21 2005 09:04 GMT
#19
but he heard about the nice lamb fucking over there... go new zeland!
Im back, in pog form!
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 21 2005 09:04 GMT
#20
I'm not christian but Christmas is a Christian Holiday.
They have the right to call their tree for the day a Christmas Tree.
The damn holiday has the dudes name in it ok?
Who cares if it's a derived thing. Also, for all those who take part in Christmas joy and etc etc
and then critisize the hypocrisy of Christmas or how its a giant money milker...
Who gives a shit, people are celebrating and having a fun time.
So what if they blow money on it? It's to make money flow and people have a good time that way.
Why is everyone dogging Christmas? It's fun and let people celebrate how they want.
For fucks sake, JLIG. Who cares what a tree is called....
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