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HappyManRun
Profile Joined November 2005
1111 Posts
December 17 2005 15:52 GMT
#61
Beautiful...
*Happy tears leaking*
I happy, thus I run.
HappyManRun
Profile Joined November 2005
1111 Posts
December 17 2005 17:12 GMT
#62
How do you construct pi^.5 haha... need that for the circle/square problem~
I happy, thus I run.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17004 Posts
December 18 2005 07:10 GMT
#63
Day four is up!
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
December 18 2005 07:20 GMT
#64
i did the square/circle thing back when I took an advanced geometry course, its kind of annoying, i wont bother doing it again i hate geometry with a passion.

problem 4 just looks annoying, ill give it a look later if i have some time
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17004 Posts
December 18 2005 09:02 GMT
#65
No one else wants to try

Unless you guys are working

I'm pretty sure you can find day four on the internet somewhere. It was a past competition problem, so it should be posted somewhere. I don't even remember where I remember it from lol.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-07 10:11:58
January 07 2006 10:11 GMT
#66
I'll resurrect this thread with something else.

IMO, this problem is pretty elegent and relatively simple, so GL.

You have an object (of negligible size) that's being shot out with an initial horizontal velocity of 8 m/s (y velocity is 0 m/s). What is its acceleration at t = 0.25 s? What are its centripetal and tangential acceleration at this time?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9626 Posts
January 07 2006 11:39 GMT
#67
y velocity is upward velocity?
it would have no acceleration, except air resistance if it was just shot out of something..
centripetal would be 9.8 would it not? gravity..?
i dont think i understand the question >.<
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9626 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-07 11:42:56
January 07 2006 11:42 GMT
#68
err this post was -totally- meant for another thread. i posted in the wrong window. sorry ;\
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 07 2006 12:12 GMT
#69
On January 07 2006 20:39 Gene wrote:
i dont think i understand the question >.<



Uh.... you need a little physics background in order to solve the problem.


y velocity is upward velocity?


Ok, the initial y-velocity is 0 meaning that it's shot out straight out horizontally.


it would have no acceleration, except air resistance if it was just shot out of something..
centripetal would be 9.8 would it not? gravity..?


Gravity is a form of acceleration.

No, the centripetal acceleration is not 9.8 ms^-2
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9626 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-07 12:16:11
January 07 2006 12:14 GMT
#70
i have a little physics background -_-
in a frictionless environment(i.e. no air resistance) the horizontal velocity will remain constant, therefore no acceleration(horizontally), and the only force acting on said body will be the force of gravity, meaning the object will have an acceleration downwards of -9.8 m/s^2 :|
but i understand now what it is, exactly, you are asking. and i dont quite remember the right forumlas ;|
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-07 12:20:10
January 07 2006 12:19 GMT
#71
On January 07 2006 21:14 Gene wrote:
i have a little physics background -_-
in a frictionless environment(i.e. no air resistance) the horizontal velocity will remain constant, therefore no acceleration(horizontally), and the only force acting on said body will be the force of gravity, meaning the object will have an acceleration downwards of -9.8 m/s^2 :|
but i understand now what it is, exactly, you are asking. and i dont quite remember the right forumlas ;|


Ok, it will only have a vertical acceleration, that is correct. So I guess you got the first part right.

However, in this case, there are two components that add up to g, and that is what the question is asking for - its centripetal acceleration (because the falling motion of the object will trace a parabola) and its tangential acceleration (the acceleration that is tangent to the curve at t=0.25s).
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9626 Posts
January 07 2006 12:34 GMT
#72
cambium i just PMed you, but im actually really embarassed for using the completely wrong formula. just pretend i never sent that ;\
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 07 2006 12:35 GMT
#73
If you come up with another solution, just post it here.

You'll most definitely need calculus to solve this.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9626 Posts
January 07 2006 12:37 GMT
#74
oh yeah, obviously, its the physics im lacking in, im taking physics right now, but its first period and i sleep every day. got 100 on the test but i totally forgot how to do this simple problem ;\ its going to annoy me until i remember too.
wastoid
Profile Joined October 2005
United States47 Posts
January 07 2006 13:42 GMT
#75
On December 17 2005 18:20 LastWish wrote:
Ok I've got it!
Catyouls solution is eventually right.


heh, I tried to solve it computationally and came sorta close at 24800 ;P

I'm only mentioning it because there were some interesting patterns that I saw to while trying to get that 24800 projection. One interesting thing is that for any N>0 number of zeroes, there are only five numbers that end in N zeroes. The other was that there was an interesting pattern in how the number of zeroes increased: it would increase by 1 every 5 numbers, but after 6 times of increasing this way, it would always skip a number the number of zeroes would increase by 2 instead of 1.

So the skipped numbers were 5, 11, 17, 23, 29.. (skip), 30, 36, 42, 48, 54, 60.. (skip), 61, 67, 73, 79, 85, 91... (skip) etc

Anyway, just thought it was a cool pattern. I don't mean to tarnish the the elegance of the pure math presented here; I wish I coulda figured it out that way myself. I was hoping that by analyzing this stuff that I'd get some insight, but alas it didn't. I did all this in Python if anyone is curious about it; support for long integers is pretty good so computing the larger numbers for testing wasn't so bad.


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