On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
im really rather sceptical. im owner of the s2 and I love the thing to death but Im so disappointed by samsung by the way they handled the ics update. I know s2 is the heaven for more advanced users who flash their own roms and whatnot but I cant see that as an upside, imo the high end android device should have a proper and time support and be as user friendly as possible. I doubt I will upgrade to s3 regardless of any hardware improvements cause Im sure s2 is the most phone I need atm. I dont think I will buy android phone with a custom UI ever again, will gladly get the new Nexus when it comes out by the end of this year.
On April 23 2012 17:14 sharky246 wrote: isn't s3 the galaxy nexus? since its the sucessor to s2
No. Galaxy Nexus is the actual flagship Android phone that is intended to give you the pure Android experience. The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android.
Is it sad that I am almost 25 and never owned a decent phone.ㄴ I had my first pre paid phone in college and never actually had a real decent phone or phone plan. I always use my wifes Galaxy S2. I am the one who told her to pick Galaxy S2. Haha. I plan on getting the S3 for myself because I need a decent phone for my job. I am always on the move during work.
Does watching Starcraft streams take up a lot of bandwidth on phones? I tried on my wifes phone but streams were prety laggy.
Please don't be too big, otherwise this will be the next greatest phone (slight hyperbole), I love how my SGS2 is so light and thin and still powerful with a brilliant screen.
Will have difficulties trying to justify buying it after only having bought SGS2 for like 6 months though, but I'm pretty sure I'll find a way eventually.
On April 23 2012 17:14 sharky246 wrote: isn't s3 the galaxy nexus? since its the sucessor to s2
No. Galaxy Nexus is the actual flagship Android phone that is intended to give you the pure Android experience. The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android.
what do you mean by actual flagship android phone? And what do you mean by pure experience?spin on android?
On April 23 2012 17:14 sharky246 wrote: isn't s3 the galaxy nexus? since its the sucessor to s2
No. Galaxy Nexus is the actual flagship Android phone that is intended to give you the pure Android experience. The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android.
what do you mean by actual flagship android phone? And what do you mean by pure experience?spin on android?
Every software generation or so Google chooses a primary Android handset manufacturer to make a "nexus" phone, that is meant to be the flagship phone (much as Halo is a flagship franchise for the xbox and Metal Gear is a flagship franchise for the Playstation). Unlike most other Android phones, it runs the "stock" android experience- no custom UI or widgets or anything (Touchwiz by Samsung, HTC sense by HTC, etc.)- it just runs stock Android- Ice Cream Sandwich, what have you. Google may have some hand in the hardware (specifying screen size, processor speed, what have you) to indicate what they believe is the best/standard experience for that generation of hardware, not sure. Google will also make sure that it gets the latest software updates when they release it. Google rotates between the primary Android phone manufacturers so as not to play favorites- or so they say. HTC did the first one, the Nexus 1, but Samsung did both the 2nd gen Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus.
The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android in the sense that it uses Android as an OS but also has Touchwiz as a user interface on top of it. When a new software update comes out (Ice Cream Sandwich over Gingerbread or whatever), it may not come out on release because Samsung needs to make sure the latest version of TouchWiz jives with it and all that.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Ok, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't. Core utilization has nothing to do with being a phone, a tablet or a desktop. It has all to do with programming, if the OS or an app is programmed to utilize more than 1 core then it will, phone or no.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Galaxy Nexus is developed with Google. It has the stock Android GUI without any of the bullshit software manufacturers put ontop. The Nexus phones are generally not perfect, with most of the flaws this time being a result of Samsung (linear input loss AGAIN, initial volume bug, two different software versions in the market) but the software is generally rock solid. You should also actually get updates for the phone since Google has a vested interest in making the Nexus lineup look good.
The Galaxy S3 will be Samsung's twist on Android. They take Android, design a phone around it, and put a skin ontop of the Android GUI (TouchWiz). Because Samsung only makes money from hardware, don't expect to get any timely software updates.
On April 23 2012 17:37 DystopiaX wrote: Google rotates between the primary Android phone manufacturers so as not to play favorites- or so they say. HTC did the first one, the Nexus 1, but Samsung did both the 2nd gen Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus.
Google makes the manufacturers bid over the job. Then they can essentially do whatever they want while designing the phone...or at least Google's input is seems to be relatively minimal. They didn't seem to mind HTC shoving a HTC Desire into a Nexus One casing. Samsung decided to do some pretty neat design work with the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus but both times Google didn't pick up on the same annoying flaw that is input loss.
On April 23 2012 17:40 Womwomwom wrote: Galaxy Nexus is developed with Google. It has the stock Android GUI without any of the bullshit software manufacturers put ontop. The Nexus phones are generally not perfect, with most of the flaws this time being a result of Samsung (linear input loss AGAIN, initial volume bug, two different software versions in the market) but the software is generally rock solid. You should also actually get updates for the phone since Google has a vested interest in making the Nexus lineup look good.
The Galaxy S3 will be Samsung's twist on Android. They take Android, design a phone around it, and put a skin ontop of the Android GUI (TouchWiz). Because Samsung only makes money from hardware, don't expect to get any timely software updates.
But if you are able and willing to get your hands dirty, so to speak, you can put custom ROMs on it and it will be so much better than whatever else. The SGS2 has a very good community around it because it is such an accomplished phone, which in turn gives it better community-sourced Android variants out there, hopefully the SGS3 will be as successful and spawn a lively following of developers.
This shouldn't be a requirement to make TouchWiz, Sense, or Motoblur not be the sluggish piece of shit it is. The serious lack of balls Google has with controlling Android manufacturers and developers is the one thing that really bothers me. You can point at the great open source community but most of these problems shouldn't be problems in the first place.
On April 23 2012 17:40 Womwomwom wrote: Galaxy Nexus is developed with Google. It has the stock Android GUI without any of the bullshit software manufacturers put ontop. The Nexus phones are generally not perfect, with most of the flaws this time being a result of Samsung (linear input loss AGAIN, initial volume bug, two different software versions in the market) but the software is generally rock solid. You should also actually get updates for the phone since Google has a vested interest in making the Nexus lineup look good.
The Galaxy S3 will be Samsung's twist on Android. They take Android, design a phone around it, and put a skin ontop of the Android GUI (TouchWiz). Because Samsung only makes money from hardware, don't expect to get any timely software updates.
But if you are able and willing to get your hands dirty, so to speak, you can put custom ROMs on it and it will be so much better than whatever else. The SGS2 has a very good community around it because it is such an accomplished phone, which in turn gives it better community-sourced Android variants out there, hopefully the SGS3 will be as successful and spawn a lively following of developers.
Regardless of whether this is out or not here when I upgrade in August, I will be getting a Galaxy Nexus. I'm not dealing with manufacturers screwing up updates more than they already have and cramming phones full of garbage and custom skins that are worse than stock Android. You shouldn't have to root your phone and use custom ROMs to get an experience that's actually good. Manufacturers need to step it up.
On April 23 2012 17:14 sharky246 wrote: isn't s3 the galaxy nexus? since its the sucessor to s2
No. Galaxy Nexus is the actual flagship Android phone that is intended to give you the pure Android experience. The Galaxy S3 is Samsung's spin on Android.
what do you mean by actual flagship android phone? And what do you mean by pure experience?spin on android?
The Galaxy Nexus is a "Nexus" branded phone, that means (for the most part) it has no manufacturer specific additions like skins or applications, just plain Android. For example, Samsung phones like the Galaxy S and Galaxy S2 have Samsung specific applications that cannot be removed without root access to the phone, and some of these apps are worse than their stock Android alternatives. Phones also can have tie-ins like Beats music and garbage like that. The Galaxy Nexus has none of that. The Nexus phones receive the fastest OS updates of any Android phone because it is what Google tests Android on. By pure experience he means your experience with Android will not be changed (usually for the worse) by manufacturer or carrier added stuff to the phone. Some people don't mind all the carrier/manufacturer added stuff, I personally hate all of that stuff and will now only buy Nexus devices, even if it has to be at a premium.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Ok, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't. Core utilization has nothing to do with being a phone, a tablet or a desktop. It has all to do with programming, if the OS or an app is programmed to utilize more than 1 core then it will, phone or no.
Guess i miss interperated what he said, but what is right is that Quad-Core and Dual-Core are pretty wasteful in mobile phones. Mr Nokia man backs up the thesis.
Of course Nokia is going to say that since all Windows 7 phones aren't massive, spec-wise. However, he's not wrong that there isn't any point cramming a quad core inside a phone if you can make yourself and developers to make software that doesn't suck - Windows Phone 7 and Sony Ericsson's Android phones are probably some of the least sluggish on the market despite the rather pathetic specs on them.
Its also why Apple didn't bother with a quad core for the iPad 3. Its already buttery smooth doing mundane stuff so why not cram the largest GPU into your SOC design so its good at playing games. Christ alive, Windows doesn't even need a quad core to run smoothly so why does a smartphone need one? I thought we'd finally get away from these numeric spec pissing games in the desktop sector but it seems its just moved to the mobile phone sector.
On April 23 2012 15:48 Caryc wrote: phone noob : does quad core do anything for a mobile phone? =o
don't know about this quad core but the nvidia quad core has better battery performance and also processing videos and overall performance improvement
My mate was learning about this in his uni course and was lol'n when i said that the Samsung S3 has quad core, he said he was taught that a phone can ever only possibly use 1core at a time to process due to it being a phone and the capabilities.
Ok, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't. Core utilization has nothing to do with being a phone, a tablet or a desktop. It has all to do with programming, if the OS or an app is programmed to utilize more than 1 core then it will, phone or no.
Guess i miss interperated what he said, but what is right is that Quad-Core and Dual-Core are pretty wasteful in mobile phones. Mr Nokia man backs up the thesis.
This just seems like Nokia is butthurt, cause it's not a leading producer anymore. With good design (cpu throttling, shutting down cores while not under load/idle) battery life isn't even a question, it could get slightly worse, but the performance gains are immense. It all comes down to what you want to use your phone for.