• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:24
CET 14:24
KST 22:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Evil Geniuses - shutting down Liquibets sc2 season 30 Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE!
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11770 users

President Obama Re-Elected - Page 1214

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1212 1213 1214 1215 1216 1504 Next
Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 06 2012 04:57 GMT
#24261
On November 06 2012 13:35 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:32 Defacer wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:21 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:55 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:49 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:38 Unholy_Prince wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:36 BluePanther wrote:
allegedly the internal polls are very close in PA. That could be a game-changer.


Internal polls have around a 6 point bias towards the party they come from. PA isn't going red.


Internal polls are they ones where they base their spending money on and are far more elaborate and accurate than polling agencies.

I'm not talking out of my ass here. Apparently Romney's move there wasn't based on desperation; they actually think they can win it.

l.o.l.


You do realize where I get this information, don't you? GOP numbers have him within striking distance. I still paint it blue, but he's got a legit shot. The Philly poll problems will come into play.


I always wondered, how are internal polling numbers superior to analysis of aggregated polls? What insight or data do they have that external polls don't?

Honest question here.


They have databases that dwarf facebook/google/boa/etc---COMBINED-- wrt voter information. Remember we've been calling people since February about preferences. That gets aggregated with the millions upon millions they spend on personal information. And this data is constantly being refreshed every two years (or more). And we don't call just 1,000 people or so--we call all of them. The amount of data the parties have is seriously incredible. If they have models predicting something, I'll trust them over the media automated polls 100% of the time.

Why not put your money where your mouth is? Intrade or fairbet are giving tremendous returns on a Romney win.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 04:59:22
November 06 2012 04:57 GMT
#24262
Final post w/r/t the election: (and I'd love if xDaunt would respond to my earlier post about how Silver's model undervalued Democrats in 08 and 10)

Aggregations have Obama at 90%+, however most use a Gaussian model which doesn't take into account Black Swan events. I think the book Black Swan is making traders cautious and keeping Obama at about 75% on most betting sites.

The difference between most betting sites and intrade, I believe, is market manipulation and low-info market participants, since in a 0-arbitrage market betting sites and intrade would be at the same price, but intrade gets cited by the media more than other sites so I believe it is frequently manipulated by both sides.

On November 06 2012 13:57 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:35 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:32 Defacer wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:21 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:55 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:49 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:38 Unholy_Prince wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:36 BluePanther wrote:
allegedly the internal polls are very close in PA. That could be a game-changer.


Internal polls have around a 6 point bias towards the party they come from. PA isn't going red.


Internal polls are they ones where they base their spending money on and are far more elaborate and accurate than polling agencies.

I'm not talking out of my ass here. Apparently Romney's move there wasn't based on desperation; they actually think they can win it.

l.o.l.


You do realize where I get this information, don't you? GOP numbers have him within striking distance. I still paint it blue, but he's got a legit shot. The Philly poll problems will come into play.


I always wondered, how are internal polling numbers superior to analysis of aggregated polls? What insight or data do they have that external polls don't?

Honest question here.


They have databases that dwarf facebook/google/boa/etc---COMBINED-- wrt voter information. Remember we've been calling people since February about preferences. That gets aggregated with the millions upon millions they spend on personal information. And this data is constantly being refreshed every two years (or more). And we don't call just 1,000 people or so--we call all of them. The amount of data the parties have is seriously incredible. If they have models predicting something, I'll trust them over the media automated polls 100% of the time.

Why not put your money where your mouth is? Intrade or fairbet are giving tremendous returns on a Romney win.


If you want to bet on Romney intrade is a horrible place to do so, you only get 2:1 on your money where most sites offer 3:1.
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
November 06 2012 04:59 GMT
#24263
On November 06 2012 13:55 oneofthem wrote:
clearly more space lasers

starwars... is where it is at
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 06 2012 05:00 GMT
#24264
On November 06 2012 13:45 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:38 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:37 RCMDVA wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:26 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:21 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:55 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:49 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:38 Unholy_Prince wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:36 BluePanther wrote:
allegedly the internal polls are very close in PA. That could be a game-changer.


Internal polls have around a 6 point bias towards the party they come from. PA isn't going red.


Internal polls are they ones where they base their spending money on and are far more elaborate and accurate than polling agencies.

I'm not talking out of my ass here. Apparently Romney's move there wasn't based on desperation; they actually think they can win it.

l.o.l.


You do realize where I get this information, don't you? GOP numbers have him within striking distance. I still paint it blue, but he's got a legit shot. The Philly poll problems will come into play.


You do realize why he's laughing, don't you? Well evidently not. No shit GOP numbers have him within striking distance, you think they'll leak information days before the election telling you they're making a desperate last ditch hail marry?


Then why was Bill Clinton sent to Philadelphia today? If it was a lock? So he has a good chance of catching pneumonia and not being a pain in Obama's ass for the next 4 years?


Because the election is all but a lock at this point, why not counter what the Republicans are doing to minimize risk.


It ain't over until it's over. Even though all the polls give Obama the lead, the lead in every swing state is narrow enough that Romney can still steal it.

To put it another way, it's hard to lose a basketball game with 10 seconds left and a three point lead. But if you and your team just stand there with your thumbs up you asses with ten seconds left ... you'll lose.


Yes. Its not mathematically impossible for Romney to win. But (a) all polls would have to have a major bias in them (b) Romney would have to win almost every state that is a tossup.
Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely that every state that is a tossup breaks for Romney? Not really.
frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
November 06 2012 05:01 GMT
#24265
On November 06 2012 13:55 oneofthem wrote:
clearly more space lasers


Tax cuts for space laser owners.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 06 2012 05:01 GMT
#24266
On November 06 2012 13:57 jalstar wrote:
Final post w/r/t the election: (and I'd love if xDaunt would respond to my earlier post about how Silver's model undervalued Democrats in 08 and 10)

Aggregations have Obama at 90%+, however most use a Gaussian model which doesn't take into account Black Swan events. I think the book Black Swan is making traders cautious and keeping Obama at about 75% on most betting sites.

The difference between most betting sites and intrade, I believe, is market manipulation and low-info market participants, since in a 0-arbitrage market betting sites and intrade would be at the same price, but intrade gets cited by the media more than other sites so I believe it is frequently manipulated by both sides.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:57 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:35 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:32 Defacer wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:21 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:55 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:49 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:38 Unholy_Prince wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:36 BluePanther wrote:
allegedly the internal polls are very close in PA. That could be a game-changer.


Internal polls have around a 6 point bias towards the party they come from. PA isn't going red.


Internal polls are they ones where they base their spending money on and are far more elaborate and accurate than polling agencies.

I'm not talking out of my ass here. Apparently Romney's move there wasn't based on desperation; they actually think they can win it.

l.o.l.


You do realize where I get this information, don't you? GOP numbers have him within striking distance. I still paint it blue, but he's got a legit shot. The Philly poll problems will come into play.


I always wondered, how are internal polling numbers superior to analysis of aggregated polls? What insight or data do they have that external polls don't?

Honest question here.


They have databases that dwarf facebook/google/boa/etc---COMBINED-- wrt voter information. Remember we've been calling people since February about preferences. That gets aggregated with the millions upon millions they spend on personal information. And this data is constantly being refreshed every two years (or more). And we don't call just 1,000 people or so--we call all of them. The amount of data the parties have is seriously incredible. If they have models predicting something, I'll trust them over the media automated polls 100% of the time.

Why not put your money where your mouth is? Intrade or fairbet are giving tremendous returns on a Romney win.


If you want to bet on Romney intrade is a horrible place to do so, you only get 2:1 on your money where most sites offer 3:1.

So you arbitrage the difference. Places where Romney's win has 'terrible' odds are places where you sell Romney contracts and places where Romney has good odds you buy contracts of equivalent value.
Trineal
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
November 06 2012 05:03 GMT
#24267
On November 06 2012 13:59 DanceSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:55 oneofthem wrote:
clearly more space lasers

starwars... is where it is at



But the question is...will it be a micky mouse head in space now?

...

Joking aside, I'm not crazy about either candidate, but I dislike Romney's foreign policy and like Obama's stance on social issues so...

I hope he wins I guess...

Either way I will mostly be happy that people will stop mobbing me on my way to class begging me to vote -.-
Imbalance: if you look at a unit from one race's perspective its "WTF" if you look at it from the other race's perspective its "FTW"
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
November 06 2012 05:07 GMT
#24268
On November 06 2012 14:03 Trineal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:59 DanceSC wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:55 oneofthem wrote:
clearly more space lasers

starwars... is where it is at



But the question is...will it be a micky mouse head in space now?

...

Joking aside, I'm not crazy about either candidate, but I dislike Romney's foreign policy and like Obama's stance on social issues so...

I hope he wins I guess...

Either way I will mostly be happy that people will stop mobbing me on my way to class begging me to vote -.-

joking aside, I hate what he has done in the last 4 years, I hate his empty promises, I have yet to hear a viable plan for the future. On top of that I dislike his arrogant personality :/

I hope he doesn't...
Either way I look at it, don't have to be conservative or liberal to realize that America can't take another 4 years at its current rate.
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 05:14:14
November 06 2012 05:08 GMT
#24269
On November 06 2012 13:57 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:35 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:32 Defacer wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:21 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:55 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:49 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:38 Unholy_Prince wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:36 BluePanther wrote:
allegedly the internal polls are very close in PA. That could be a game-changer.


Internal polls have around a 6 point bias towards the party they come from. PA isn't going red.


Internal polls are they ones where they base their spending money on and are far more elaborate and accurate than polling agencies.

I'm not talking out of my ass here. Apparently Romney's move there wasn't based on desperation; they actually think they can win it.

l.o.l.


You do realize where I get this information, don't you? GOP numbers have him within striking distance. I still paint it blue, but he's got a legit shot. The Philly poll problems will come into play.


I always wondered, how are internal polling numbers superior to analysis of aggregated polls? What insight or data do they have that external polls don't?

Honest question here.


They have databases that dwarf facebook/google/boa/etc---COMBINED-- wrt voter information. Remember we've been calling people since February about preferences. That gets aggregated with the millions upon millions they spend on personal information. And this data is constantly being refreshed every two years (or more). And we don't call just 1,000 people or so--we call all of them. The amount of data the parties have is seriously incredible. If they have models predicting something, I'll trust them over the media automated polls 100% of the time.

Why not put your money where your mouth is? Intrade or fairbet are giving tremendous returns on a Romney win.


Because I don't think he's going to win? I've made a prediction somewhere else. Romney takes the popular, Obama wins the EC. Not sure the numbers, but my map looked exactly like the one from the top Politico story. I give romney a <1% edge in popular vote. Here is my map prediction:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Saying it's closer than it looks and that he might win is not the same as saying "OMG HES GONNA WIN OMG OMG OMG OMG!!" He's still on the bad side of things.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
November 06 2012 05:09 GMT
#24270
On November 06 2012 13:57 jalstar wrote:
Final post w/r/t the election: (and I'd love if xDaunt would respond to my earlier post about how Silver's model undervalued Democrats in 08 and 10)

Aggregations have Obama at 90%+, however most use a Gaussian model which doesn't take into account Black Swan events. I think the book Black Swan is making traders cautious and keeping Obama at about 75% on most betting sites.

The difference between most betting sites and intrade, I believe, is market manipulation and low-info market participants, since in a 0-arbitrage market betting sites and intrade would be at the same price, but intrade gets cited by the media more than other sites so I believe it is frequently manipulated by both sides.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:57 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:35 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:32 Defacer wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:21 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:55 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:49 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:38 Unholy_Prince wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:36 BluePanther wrote:
allegedly the internal polls are very close in PA. That could be a game-changer.


Internal polls have around a 6 point bias towards the party they come from. PA isn't going red.


Internal polls are they ones where they base their spending money on and are far more elaborate and accurate than polling agencies.

I'm not talking out of my ass here. Apparently Romney's move there wasn't based on desperation; they actually think they can win it.

l.o.l.


You do realize where I get this information, don't you? GOP numbers have him within striking distance. I still paint it blue, but he's got a legit shot. The Philly poll problems will come into play.


I always wondered, how are internal polling numbers superior to analysis of aggregated polls? What insight or data do they have that external polls don't?

Honest question here.


They have databases that dwarf facebook/google/boa/etc---COMBINED-- wrt voter information. Remember we've been calling people since February about preferences. That gets aggregated with the millions upon millions they spend on personal information. And this data is constantly being refreshed every two years (or more). And we don't call just 1,000 people or so--we call all of them. The amount of data the parties have is seriously incredible. If they have models predicting something, I'll trust them over the media automated polls 100% of the time.

Why not put your money where your mouth is? Intrade or fairbet are giving tremendous returns on a Romney win.


If you want to bet on Romney intrade is a horrible place to do so, you only get 2:1 on your money where most sites offer 3:1.


Yeah at a lot of the offshore betting sites you can get even better, Romney at 10:3.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Zaqwert
Profile Joined June 2008
United States411 Posts
November 06 2012 05:10 GMT
#24271
For all those worshipping at the altar of Nate Silver, why don't you throw your life savings on betting Obama to win?

Most bettings sites are showing him at about ~66% to win but the beloved 538 model shows him at like 93%. You don't get very many opportunities at an instant 27% expected ROI.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 05:13:25
November 06 2012 05:11 GMT
#24272
On November 06 2012 13:46 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:39 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:38 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:37 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:32 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:26 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:21 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:55 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:49 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:38 Unholy_Prince wrote:
[quote]

Internal polls have around a 6 point bias towards the party they come from. PA isn't going red.


Internal polls are they ones where they base their spending money on and are far more elaborate and accurate than polling agencies.

I'm not talking out of my ass here. Apparently Romney's move there wasn't based on desperation; they actually think they can win it.

l.o.l.


You do realize where I get this information, don't you? GOP numbers have him within striking distance. I still paint it blue, but he's got a legit shot. The Philly poll problems will come into play.


You do realize why he's laughing, don't you? Well evidently not. No shit GOP numbers have him within striking distance, you think they'll leak information days before the election telling you they're making a desperate last ditch hail marry?


.... sigh. Nevermind, I forget I'm talking to a bunch of liberals with fingers in their ears. I'm not relating partisan information, you know. Just remember this tomorrow. It's much closer than RCP has it. I'll just leave it at that.


Republican internal poll numbers released to the public => not partisan information. I remember 3 days ago you were advocating how much more accurate RCP is than most other sources.


I didn't say anything about polls that had been released to the public.


So you are a Republican insider with information no one else but high ranking member of the GOP has?


Lol, not exactly. But I hear stuff because I work with insiders. I know more than you do (and that's not meant as a slight).

Not all of it is kept super close to the chest, but that doesn't mean they're going to report it to the media. What would they have to gain by saying "our prediction is that we are super close but are still going to lose." No, they tell the media they think they'll win and they spend a ton of money in hopes that they can.

Yes. That makes sense. As Mitt's momentum starts stalling in late October, despite internal polling that 'clearly' shows he is going to crush it, the GOP goes dark, Paul Ryan starts going to non-battle ground states to talk up his bid in 2016 and the knifes start coming out from insiders and this is all part of a clever rouse to trick the Democrats into complacency.

I understand that when you volunteer for a party you really get into the whole "My team is going to win" mentality, and good for you. Way to stay loyal to the brand and keep fighting the good fight but my god man. Take some perspective.

Edit -- Whoops, didnt see you post that second comment re Popular vs. EC votes. My bad.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 06 2012 05:11 GMT
#24273
On November 06 2012 13:48 HunterX11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:07 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:04 Defacer wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:59 Zaqwert wrote:
Obama will probably win and this thread will erupt in high fives and celebration.

Meanwhile every person under 18 in this country is inheriting $218,676 in national debt.

WOW, we did it you guys! FOUR MORE YEARS!

It's a great irony in life that all the silly children supporting him this time will be the one inheriting the disaster of a country his policies will leave behind.


What's the national debt when you add 5 to 7 trillion to it, as Romney has essentially proposed?


You are right, there is no real choice when it comes to this issue. There hasn't been for decades.


It hasn't quite been 20 years since Clinton was first elected yet

The Clinton surplus was due primarily to massive tax revenues, not to significant cuts in expenditures. Clinton's presidency was a speed bump on the road to big government.

[image loading]
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
November 06 2012 05:12 GMT
#24274
On November 06 2012 13:42 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:31 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:17 Souma wrote:
Guys, the fortune from the fortune cookie I just ate says, "A surprise will come from an unexpected source."

That doesn't sound good~


Third party upset? :-D *crosses fingers*

Some of you might find this "poll" of sorts interesting. Friend of mine recommended it and it seems very unbiased and thorough. I suggest you give it a shot and post your results. I'll be posting mine in a sec.

http://www.isidewith.com/#52574784

i wouldn't say it's thorough, but it gets the major issues and candidate positions well, so you are distinguished amongst the choices given. i'm probably a neoliberal imperialist to jill stein but i get her at 93% based on that platform.


Lol, I'll be darned! I hadn't heard of Stein till tonight. Did a quick search of her and the first result was that she was arrested for something. Not the greatest first impression, haha!

Got my own results back. Whoa. Holy...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


O_O Uhh.... To be clear, I don't trust Romney on his stances. If he is elected, I think he would flip-flop on many things, so I only count this 90% to his "theoretical" or campaign stances, if you will.

Surprised that Goode didn't get higher than Johnson for me here. Thought for sure I'd be more in line with the Constitutionalist party than the Libertarian one, but oh well.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
November 06 2012 05:12 GMT
#24275
On November 06 2012 13:56 Quakecomm wrote:
I've lived in america my whole life, and I chose: THIS is the world's only superpower? We're all doomed.


Not the only superpower for much longer. A decade at the very most so don't worry too much about that.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Trineal
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
November 06 2012 05:15 GMT
#24276
On November 06 2012 14:07 DanceSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 14:03 Trineal wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:59 DanceSC wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:55 oneofthem wrote:
clearly more space lasers

starwars... is where it is at



But the question is...will it be a micky mouse head in space now?

...

Joking aside, I'm not crazy about either candidate, but I dislike Romney's foreign policy and like Obama's stance on social issues so...

I hope he wins I guess...

Either way I will mostly be happy that people will stop mobbing me on my way to class begging me to vote -.-

joking aside, I hate what he has done in the last 4 years, I hate his empty promises, I have yet to hear a viable plan for the future. On top of that I dislike his arrogant personality :/

I hope he doesn't...
Either way I look at it, don't have to be conservative or liberal to realize that America can't take another 4 years at its current rate.


To be fair, I was an Obama nut 4 years ago. Thought he was Jesus.

Now...he barley gets an "eh"
Imbalance: if you look at a unit from one race's perspective its "WTF" if you look at it from the other race's perspective its "FTW"
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 06 2012 05:17 GMT
#24277
This drive to Vegas to vote sucks.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 06 2012 05:18 GMT
#24278
On November 06 2012 14:10 Zaqwert wrote:
For all those worshipping at the altar of Nate Silver, why don't you throw your life savings on betting Obama to win?

Most bettings sites are showing him at about ~66% to win but the beloved 538 model shows him at like 93%. You don't get very many opportunities at an instant 27% expected ROI.


why do i keep checking this thread.

1. if i had money, i'd make guaranteed money by arbitraging.
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Swan_(Taleb_book)
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 05:21:10
November 06 2012 05:19 GMT
#24279
On November 06 2012 14:11 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:46 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:39 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:38 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:37 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:32 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:26 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:21 BluePanther wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:55 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 06 2012 12:49 BluePanther wrote:
[quote]

Internal polls are they ones where they base their spending money on and are far more elaborate and accurate than polling agencies.

I'm not talking out of my ass here. Apparently Romney's move there wasn't based on desperation; they actually think they can win it.

l.o.l.


You do realize where I get this information, don't you? GOP numbers have him within striking distance. I still paint it blue, but he's got a legit shot. The Philly poll problems will come into play.


You do realize why he's laughing, don't you? Well evidently not. No shit GOP numbers have him within striking distance, you think they'll leak information days before the election telling you they're making a desperate last ditch hail marry?


.... sigh. Nevermind, I forget I'm talking to a bunch of liberals with fingers in their ears. I'm not relating partisan information, you know. Just remember this tomorrow. It's much closer than RCP has it. I'll just leave it at that.


Republican internal poll numbers released to the public => not partisan information. I remember 3 days ago you were advocating how much more accurate RCP is than most other sources.


I didn't say anything about polls that had been released to the public.


So you are a Republican insider with information no one else but high ranking member of the GOP has?


Lol, not exactly. But I hear stuff because I work with insiders. I know more than you do (and that's not meant as a slight).

Not all of it is kept super close to the chest, but that doesn't mean they're going to report it to the media. What would they have to gain by saying "our prediction is that we are super close but are still going to lose." No, they tell the media they think they'll win and they spend a ton of money in hopes that they can.

Yes. That makes sense. As Mitt's momentum starts stalling in late October, despite internal polling that 'clearly' shows he is going to crush it, the GOP goes dark, Paul Ryan starts going to non-battle ground states to talk up his bid in 2016 and the knifes start coming out from insiders and this is all part of a clever rouse to trick the Democrats into complacency.

I understand that when you volunteer for a party you really get into the whole "My team is going to win" mentality, and good for you. Way to stay loyal to the brand and keep fighting the good fight but my god man. Take some perspective.

Edit -- Whoops, didnt see you post that second comment re Popular vs. EC votes. My bad.


I don't volunteer for the party. Hell, I'm barely a Republican. I have not touched a phone bank since we won the primary: I refuse to campaign for Romney or for the party in general.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
November 06 2012 05:20 GMT
#24280
On November 06 2012 14:12 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 13:42 oneofthem wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:31 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On November 06 2012 13:17 Souma wrote:
Guys, the fortune from the fortune cookie I just ate says, "A surprise will come from an unexpected source."

That doesn't sound good~


Third party upset? :-D *crosses fingers*

Some of you might find this "poll" of sorts interesting. Friend of mine recommended it and it seems very unbiased and thorough. I suggest you give it a shot and post your results. I'll be posting mine in a sec.

http://www.isidewith.com/#52574784

i wouldn't say it's thorough, but it gets the major issues and candidate positions well, so you are distinguished amongst the choices given. i'm probably a neoliberal imperialist to jill stein but i get her at 93% based on that platform.


Lol, I'll be darned! I hadn't heard of Stein till tonight. Did a quick search of her and the first result was that she was arrested for something. Not the greatest first impression, haha!

Got my own results back. Whoa. Holy...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


O_O Uhh.... To be clear, I don't trust Romney on his stances. If he is elected, I think he would flip-flop on many things, so I only count this 90% to his "theoretical" or campaign stances, if you will.

Surprised that Goode didn't get higher than Johnson for me here. Thought for sure I'd be more in line with the Constitutionalist party than the Libertarian one, but oh well.


lol shes been arrested quite a few times, it's the context in how she got arrested, not the arrests that speak for themselves, she is fighting for our rights.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Prev 1 1212 1213 1214 1215 1216 1504 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Patches Events
22:00
Patch Clash S1: Monthly #3
TKL 67
Liquipedia
WardiTV Summer Champion…
21:00
Not-Summer Champs Playoffs
WardiTV731
Rex133
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko382
Rex 133
TKL 67
SHIN 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 2582
Jaedong 1393
Mini 933
Horang2 646
Light 388
Soma 318
BeSt 306
Rush 274
firebathero 271
Stork 270
[ Show more ]
Snow 257
ZerO 186
Hyuk 175
Leta 111
hero 108
Zeus 99
Killer 98
Sea.KH 68
Mind 67
Sharp 55
Barracks 54
ToSsGirL 45
Hyun 45
sorry 41
Bale 28
Classic 27
Creator 27
JYJ 23
Movie 22
Terrorterran 21
Hm[arnc] 20
soO 20
Trap 20
Sacsri 13
yabsab 12
Noble 11
Rock 10
Icarus 7
Dota 2
Dendi433
Fuzer 107
Counter-Strike
fl0m4928
olofmeister725
markeloff44
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes228
Other Games
B2W.Neo856
Beastyqt460
Pyrionflax303
DeMusliM228
dupreeh220
hiko202
syndereN151
Livibee61
Mew2King53
ArmadaUGS24
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL360
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 52
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt511
Other Games
• WagamamaTV266
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
11h 36m
Kung Fu Cup
21h 36m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
The PondCast
1d 20h
KCM Race Survival
1d 20h
OSC
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
IPSL
4 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.