EPTOn November 06 2012 14:39 Signet wrote:
But Vick is more appropriate given his user name.
But Vick is more appropriate given his user name.
True dat! Didn't even read his username at first
President Obama Re-Elected - Page 1216
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
True dat! Didn't even read his username at first | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On November 06 2012 14:19 BluePanther wrote: I don't volunteer for the party. Hell, I'm barely a Republican. I have not touched a phone bank since we won the primary: I refuse to campaign for Romney or for the party in general. Somewhere behind this post is a riveting backstory about Blue Panther's tumultuous relationship with his drunk and negligent father/presidential candidate. I'm thinking Blue Panther is either George W. Bushes illegitimate son ... Or one of Barack Obama's secret half-brothers. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
I'm glad this thread has existed and that the discussion has been as good as it has been. I hope you all decide to go out and vote tomorrow. I know I will be. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On November 06 2012 14:20 Zaqwert wrote: Obama will likely win this time, but the halo is gone. He spent the entire campaign talking about petty issues, attacking Romney (some legit, some half truths, some outright bs), and really having no plan at all outside of "Romney sucks" and "Hey, remember how awesome you thought I was 4 years ago?" No grand, lofty inspirational speeches. Just standard divide and conquer politics. While Obama looks poised to win a 2nd term, the bloom is off the rose, the thrill is gone. Never put your faith or trust in a politician. The state is a fundamentally flawed concept and is nothing more than well organized violence. For all you wanna be Obama hipsters, please read this, it will blow your mind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism Of course most of you will be like "LOL, wut no gubment? But we have to have one!" because you've been brainwashed with that your whole life. Figures. Do you plan to join the massive sea flotila of fellow libertarians like Peter Thiel or just stuck up on guns and ammo and gold while the evil Fed destroys the world and its Keynsianst follies? | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On November 06 2012 14:55 Defacer wrote: Somewhere behind this post is a riveting backstory about Blue Panther's tumultuous relationship with his drunk and negligent father/presidential candidate. I'm thinking Blue Panther is either George W. Bushes illegitimate son ... Or one of Barack Obama's secret half-brothers. Or he was george bush's illegitimate son who was then secretly adopted by obama since obama is a homesexual and all. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On November 06 2012 14:12 Feartheguru wrote: Not the only superpower for much longer. A decade at the very most so don't worry too much about that. Cant decide which random statement I like more. "The US is done" defeatism or the "Dont be sheep, read this book by Ludwig von Mises and youll understand that we can live without governments! With bitcoins! and beef!" | ||
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
On November 06 2012 14:19 BluePanther wrote: I don't volunteer for the party. Hell, I'm barely a Republican. I have not touched a phone bank since we won the primary: I refuse to campaign for Romney or for the party in general. Now I'm really intrigued (not sarcastic). In which way are you "working" with GOP insiders? | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On November 06 2012 15:01 BlueBird. wrote: Or he was george bush's illegitimate son who was then secretly adopted by obama since obama is a homesexual and all. you have it all wrong, he was adopted by obama and bush but was found out by the romneys. To keep it a secret bush had to keep cristi out of this race so that romney could win the primary | ||
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RiCCoo
United States20 Posts
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Amnesty
United States2054 Posts
Ready to go! Would have made for a better first post.. Just sayin | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aImU4.jpg) | ||
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tokicheese
Canada739 Posts
We talked about issues that make people not vote in class the other day and the part that interested me the most was about young adults not voting. Currently voter turn out is at it's lowest ever per capita and it is even lower in young adults. One part of this is because of the fact that we do not vote no party has a reason to appeals to our issues. It in would in fact hurt the important voting portions of the population who it would piss off. An example of this is that tuition in BC is at 192% of what it was 10 years ago adjusted for inflation. If a party were to lower the tuition it would raise taxes and piss people off causing them to lose votes and the 20 somethings who it would benefit but they would not vote. Another issue is that people feel like their one vote out of 32 million in Canada/US doesn't matter but on top of that the first past the poll system makes this even worse. Even if they get past those problems the difference in Candidates mean fuck all in the grand scheme of things. Super small changes that trickle down from big changes that people did vote for after all the compromises were down on the multiple levels of gov't. OT: I really hope Obama wins as a Canadian and it seems like a real nail biter of an election. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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KlinKz
Canada149 Posts
On November 06 2012 15:19 tokicheese wrote: Little rant about why people don't vote and stuff+ Show Spoiler + We talked about issues that make people not vote in class the other day and the part that interested me the most was about young adults not voting. Currently voter turn out is at it's lowest ever per capita and it is even lower in young adults. One part of this is because of the fact that we do not vote no party has a reason to appeals to our issues. It in would in fact hurt the important voting portions of the population who it would piss off. An example of this is that tuition in BC is at 192% of what it was 10 years ago adjusted for inflation. If a party were to lower the tuition it would raise taxes and piss people off causing them to lose votes and the 20 somethings who it would benefit but they would not vote. Another issue is that people feel like their one vote out of 32 million in Canada/US doesn't matter but on top of that the first past the poll system makes this even worse. Even if they get past those problems the difference in Candidates mean fuck all in the grand scheme of things. Super small changes that trickle down from big changes that people did vote for after all the compromises were down on the multiple levels of gov't. OT: I really hope Obama wins as a Canadian and it seems like a real nail biter of an election. I alot of people I know want Obama to win, it is our only hope to believe in the Americans to elect who to be the next president. WHO will likely shape how the world views its "leader." That being said good luck with both candidates for tmrw. Going to be nerve wrecking I know for most american families. | ||
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DOUDOU
Wales2940 Posts
-Where on the internet is the best news site to follow this? I know I'll keep an eye on the guardian and BBC but what are the good US media? -fun: has anyone bothered digging up on the republican anti french rant during 2004 aimed at John Kerry (I'm thinking of this) and apply it to Romney? I mean, the guy speaks french! you wouldn't vote for that, would you?! | ||
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Zaqwert
United States411 Posts
And the guy who wins will go immediately start forcing a whole bunch of crap on the other 70% of the country because of his "mandate" Democracy is a joke. I never asked to be part of this little system, yet I am a slave to it. My rights, my property, my freedoms, all at the whims of millions of other dullards ever couple of years in Novemeber. I never gave anyone consent or permission to make decisions about my life other than me. | ||
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
The reason I ask is because the two-party duopoly that we have in the U.S. is aligned on most of the major issues (economic agenda, healthcare, campaign finance, foreign-policy), and while the GOP is generally farther to the right on some of the "soft" issues, the Dems are quite right-of-center themselves (certainly in comparison to our peers in Canada/Europe). So you have a right-wing consensus among both parties, and the votes go something like 95% Rep or Dem, which is virtually unanimous consent. Is this consent similar to the "manufactured consent" Americans perceive in countries stigmatized as undemocratic (like Russia), or are their sharper differences between the American and Russian climate worth mentioning? My guess is that in the U.S., the poor still show up for a candidate that represents middle-upper class values. As the middle class continues to shrink, I think we're going to see less voter turnout and the rhetoric will become increasingly flattering to the electorate (e.g. "responsibility" "dream" "hope" etc). If not for the flattery and scare tactics, I don't know what would convince otherwise-rational people to consent. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On November 06 2012 15:42 DOUDOU wrote: -I actually never had doubt Obama would lose -Where on the internet is the best news site to follow this? I know I'll keep an eye on the guardian and BBC but what are the good US media? -fun: has anyone bothered digging up on the republican anti french rant during 2004 aimed at John Kerry (I'm thinking of this) and apply it to Romney? I mean, the guy speaks french! you wouldn't vote for that, would you?! http://elections.msnbc.msn.com/ns/politics/2012/all#.UJgAuYW9xRQ | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On November 06 2012 15:47 Zaqwert wrote: Today ~30% of people will vote for one guy, ~30% of people will vote for a different guy, ~40% of people won't vote at all. And the guy who wins will go immediately start forcing a whole bunch of crap on the other 70% of the country because of his "mandate" Democracy is a joke. I never asked to be part of this little system, yet I am a slave to it. My rights, my property, my freedoms, all at the whims of millions of other dullards ever couple of years in Novemeber. I never gave anyone consent or permission to make decisions about my life other than me. Where is a first world problems meme when you need one. | ||
Falling
Canada11350 Posts
Time to drop off the grid then I think. Become a homesteader up in the mountains or something. I don't think any of the candidates are what you are looking for. | ||
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