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Just a thread to post what you're working on and what you're listening to.
I'm currently listening to Tschaikovsky's first piano concerto and Ravel's Scarbo. I'm also listening to Tschaikovsky's D major violin concerto and a Dvorak symphony.
I'm playing two Liszt etudes, his first Paganini (the one based off of the beginning and end of Paganini's fifth caprice and Paganini's sixth caprice) and his second Transcendental.
I'm also trying to play Tschaikovsky's Violin Concerto on the Viola. It's not going too well; I'll probably end up moving everything a fifth down :[
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i usually listen to classical music on my computer when i go to bed, it helps me fall asleep faster and I wake up to nice soothing music.
However this music 99% of the time includes piano compositions by Nobuo Uematsu (FF), piano remixes from OC Remix, etc.
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"Dance of the Furies" from Gluck's Orphée et Eurydice.
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am i the only one who finds classical music enhances your chess game?
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Classical music helps me become focused when I try to get work done.
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On October 28 2005 20:10 only)a-game wrote: am i the only one who finds classical music enhances your chess game?
Yeah, I did some reading about this a while ago.
I believe it's called the "Mozart Effect." Listening to Mozart gives you a temporary boost in spatial temporal reasoning (Which is used in chess ). Music supposedly has a pretty big effect on things like math/chess/etc.
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On October 28 2005 20:10 only)a-game wrote: am i the only one who finds classical music enhances your chess game? That's totally true.
Oh, and amongst my favorite compositions: Bach - Toccata and Fugue in D Minor Mozart - Pachabel Canon in D Vivaldi - The Four Seasons Wagner - La Fortuna Wagner - Ride Of The Valkyries
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I find Classical music distracting, and I can't get any work done with Mozart or anything playing in the background. Anyway, I'm listening to silence right now, but my favourite song ever is Schumann's 3rd Symphony. I have my alarm set to that song, so I wake up to it early in the morning and often find myself lying there for 5 minutes before getting up (not that it's not like that with any other song )
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i love paul hindemith
and nobuo uematsu (sp? the final fantasy guy)
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Apocalyptica - Zelda Main Theme
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i just got back from listening to the houston symphony play the william tell overture, mozart's piano concerto in d minor, and pines of rome.
i almost forgot how much ass pines of rome kicks. off-stage brass in the balconies = balls.
i'm also currently playing english horn on rachmaninov's 2nd symphony and oboe on tchaik's 4th.
gl on the liszt transcendental etude, that entire book is fucking hard.
dvorak's 8th and 9th symphonies are also two incredible pieces of music.
pachelbel's canon in d is written by johann PACHELBEL, not mozart. i don't know where you got mozart from, but he definitely didn't write that.
[edit] btw empyrean this is asuka from bsb in case you didn't know D:
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I'm currently listening to Chopin's Scherzo Opus 31 in B-Flat Minor. Chopin composed really good piano music +_+!! And I'm also going to analyse Beethoven's Piano Sonata Opus 2 Number 2 Movement 1 & 4. Learning those 2 pieces for the Yamaha National Competition hopefully!!
For cello I'm listening a lot to Bach's suites although I actually am not sure which exact one haha. But it's a pretty famous one I think ^^
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Everyone plays that Scherzo
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Haha yeh it's played quite a bit but I've never played much Chopin in the past and hopefully this can get me started
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BTW does anyone know about the Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra? Apparently they played BoA Music in a J-Pop Special or something. Does anyone knows where I can find it? ~~
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Ah yes, a classical music thread. I was thinking abuot starting one to get some suggestions as I kind of want to get into it somewhat, but dno't know where to start. How about some good more modern classical as well as the "classics." ;D
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Modern Classical look for Tabula Rasa. I've heard a few samples and I quite like it. Then again, you'll probably only like it if you're into 20th century music and the neo-classical style :$
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On October 28 2005 21:52 Abang_Zealot wrote: I'm currently listening to Chopin's Scherzo Opus 31 in B-Flat Minor. Chopin composed really good piano music +_+!! And I'm also going to analyse Beethoven's Piano Sonata Opus 2 Number 2 Movement 1 & 4. Learning those 2 pieces for the Yamaha National Competition hopefully!!
For cello I'm listening a lot to Bach's suites although I actually am not sure which exact one haha. But it's a pretty famous one I think ^^
Listen - if you want to do the piano do the following:
Don't do that Scherzo, please, it's cliched as FUCK. If you have to do a Scherzo, try No. 4, it's a much higher quality piece and if you have to do it for a piano competition it will resonate much more strongly with the judge.
Start learning Winterwind - Opus 25 No. 11, and play ALL of the Bach prelude and fugues (if those are too hard for you do all of the Three part Inventions Sinfonia)
If you need relaxation from this ultimate goal, just do some Mozart/Haydn sonatas - those are a big hit if you have to play for a family friend or on a piano that is shitty.
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Nobuo Uematsu is soooo great.
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lol, when i saw this thread i was thinking eagles, beatles, rolling stones;)
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On October 28 2005 23:04 exalted wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2005 21:52 Abang_Zealot wrote: I'm currently listening to Chopin's Scherzo Opus 31 in B-Flat Minor. Chopin composed really good piano music +_+!! And I'm also going to analyse Beethoven's Piano Sonata Opus 2 Number 2 Movement 1 & 4. Learning those 2 pieces for the Yamaha National Competition hopefully!!
For cello I'm listening a lot to Bach's suites although I actually am not sure which exact one haha. But it's a pretty famous one I think ^^ Listen - if you want to do the piano do the following: Don't do that Scherzo, please, it's cliched as FUCK. If you have to do a Scherzo, try No. 4, it's a much higher quality piece and if you have to do it for a piano competition it will resonate much more strongly with the judge. Start learning Winterwind - Opus 25 No. 11, and play ALL of the Bach prelude and fugues (if those are too hard for you do all of the Three part Inventions Sinfonia) If you need relaxation from this ultimate goal, just do some Mozart/Haydn sonatas - those are a big hit if you have to play for a family friend or on a piano that is shitty.
Well I have to agree with you about the 2nd scherzo but it's totally wrong what you said about the 4th scherzo, Chopin himself said it was one of his weaker pieces. And if you'd read his post more precisely you would have known, that he just listens to it. And in addition it's quite funny that you say he should learn all preludes and fugues of Bach. In fact I don't know any student of my music university who has learned all of them, usually you just learn about 4 or 5, not 48. And well winterwind is a good choice but if you start learning chopin etudes you don't start with one of the hardest(winterwind). And you really think that Mozart and Haydn are worth to be played on a shitty piano, and then even will be a big hit??
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I don't know much about Classical music, just the basics that I've been taught by movies like Amadeus in highschool World Cultures classes. But I do have a few CDs...
My favorite piece right now is probably Mozart's Overture from the Abduction from the Seraglio. 
And of course Pa-Pa-Pa-Pa-Pa-Papagena.
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On October 28 2005 23:04 exalted wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2005 21:52 Abang_Zealot wrote: I'm currently listening to Chopin's Scherzo Opus 31 in B-Flat Minor. Chopin composed really good piano music +_+!! And I'm also going to analyse Beethoven's Piano Sonata Opus 2 Number 2 Movement 1 & 4. Learning those 2 pieces for the Yamaha National Competition hopefully!!
For cello I'm listening a lot to Bach's suites although I actually am not sure which exact one haha. But it's a pretty famous one I think ^^ Listen - if you want to do the piano do the following: Don't do that Scherzo, please, it's cliched as FUCK. If you have to do a Scherzo, try No. 4, it's a much higher quality piece and if you have to do it for a piano competition it will resonate much more strongly with the judge. Start learning Winterwind - Opus 25 No. 11, and play ALL of the Bach prelude and fugues (if those are too hard for you do all of the Three part Inventions Sinfonia) If you need relaxation from this ultimate goal, just do some Mozart/Haydn sonatas - those are a big hit if you have to play for a family friend or on a piano that is shitty.
I'd actually play a Ballade instead. Not some shitty overplayed one like the second or the first, but one like the third. I love Chopin's third Ballade. It's so fun to play, especially when you get to the climax 
EDIT: Not saying those pieces are shitty, I'm saying it's shitty how they're overplayed.
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Oh yes, and if you want to start a Chopin Etude, I'd choose an easier one like op 10 #12, op.25 #2 or op.10 #3. Also in the "Trois Nouvelles Etudes" the umm...I forgot which, but it's the one with the three on four. That's relatively easy as well.
I wouldn't start with something like the Thirds etude or the Winterwind.
Also, some of the fugues are very challenging to play correctly, i.e., playing all of the voices balanced. Hell, in the five voice one (forgot which ), it takes a while just to identify all of the subjects, countersubjects, etc. Again, I'd start with something easy like the WTC I c minor prelude and fugue.
That may be too easy for someone playing a Chopin Scherzo, though.
But please try his third Ballade. You'll love it; I promise
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Eric satie, Camille Saint-Saens, Mozart's requiem few other random stuff I really like in classic music but I'm more into House/hard dance
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Most beautiful orchestra peice ever: Fantasia on a theme, by Thomas Tallis Also listening to: Arabesque no.2 by Debussy
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On October 29 2005 04:06 Illuvatar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2005 23:04 exalted wrote:On October 28 2005 21:52 Abang_Zealot wrote: I'm currently listening to Chopin's Scherzo Opus 31 in B-Flat Minor. Chopin composed really good piano music +_+!! And I'm also going to analyse Beethoven's Piano Sonata Opus 2 Number 2 Movement 1 & 4. Learning those 2 pieces for the Yamaha National Competition hopefully!!
For cello I'm listening a lot to Bach's suites although I actually am not sure which exact one haha. But it's a pretty famous one I think ^^ Listen - if you want to do the piano do the following: Don't do that Scherzo, please, it's cliched as FUCK. If you have to do a Scherzo, try No. 4, it's a much higher quality piece and if you have to do it for a piano competition it will resonate much more strongly with the judge. Start learning Winterwind - Opus 25 No. 11, and play ALL of the Bach prelude and fugues (if those are too hard for you do all of the Three part Inventions Sinfonia) If you need relaxation from this ultimate goal, just do some Mozart/Haydn sonatas - those are a big hit if you have to play for a family friend or on a piano that is shitty. Well I have to agree with you about the 2nd scherzo but it's totally wrong what you said about the 4th scherzo, Chopin himself said it was one of his weaker pieces. And if you'd read his post more precisely you would have known, that he just listens to it. And in addition it's quite funny that you say he should learn all preludes and fugues of Bach. In fact I don't know any student of my music university who has learned all of them, usually you just learn about 4 or 5, not 48. And well winterwind is a good choice but if you start learning chopin etudes you don't start with one of the hardest(winterwind). And you really think that Mozart and Haydn are worth to be played on a shitty piano, and then even will be a big hit??
The 4th Scherzo is amazing, its a little dreary in that it repeats so many times and the middle section sounds out of place, but it's a unique piece in itself. Learning the preludes and fugues of Bach is essential to good piano playing, but I may be biased in my appreciation of Glenn Gould. Nevertheless, it is crucial to learn at least 4-5.
Winterwind is definitely a good choice but I only said it becuase it is an amazing piece - obviously I would not recommend that or the Revolutionary Etude (too many teachers give the mistake of assigning this etude to an enthuiastic student who wishes to learn it) to someone with weak technique. If you had to pick an etude to do for a student with less experience, I would recommend Opus 25 No. 12 then.
Yes, I would rather play a Mozart sonata on a crappy piano than a Chopin etude, that's for sure. I'm not saying that they only "deserve" lesser pianos, don't take the wrong meaning. I'm just saying that it's good to have a mixed repitore and Mozart/Haydn is appreciated by most audiences and a good rendition can still be performed from a lesser quality piano (cough upright).
My goal in life (my Dad's) was originally to enter the Curtis Institute of Music after I graduated highschool at 15, but I have since then pretty much stopped piano. My piano teacher was one that really drilled me on technique - I started learning the thirds Opus 25 No 6 when I was around 9.
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On October 29 2005 06:52 Empyrean wrote:Oh yes, and if you want to start a Chopin Etude, I'd choose an easier one like op 10 #12, op.25 #2 or op.10 #3. Also in the "Trois Nouvelles Etudes" the umm...I forgot which, but it's the one with the three on four. That's relatively easy as well. I wouldn't start with something like the Thirds etude or the Winterwind. Also, some of the fugues are very challenging to play correctly, i.e., playing all of the voices balanced. Hell, in the five voice one (forgot which  ), it takes a while just to identify all of the subjects, countersubjects, etc. Again, I'd start with something easy like the WTC I c minor prelude and fugue. That may be too easy for someone playing a Chopin Scherzo, though. But please try his third Ballade. You'll love it; I promise 
I've played that Ballade (eb major?) and didn't enjoy it very much. Prelude and fugues are incredibly difficult, definitely - but Bach is too elite to ignore.
The 3 on 4 posthomous etude fucking sucks, its SO bad, (I hear people found those works in his mattress or something? I'm sure that he's rolling in his grave about the fact that they found those pieces of @(#$* ). Thirds etude is not that hard, but you will have to devote probably around 2 years to get it to performing shape. The fact that it already has so many sharps makes it daunting to even approach though.
Do not get into the habit of trying to play pieces past your experience level, when I was young that was what I did and it ultimately weakened my foundations (of musicality, my technique was ) Even playing "simpler" music like Mozart is enjoyable and is very nice. If you are serious about pursuing piano as a career, then I assume you already have a private teacher and that man (women can't play piano lols) can offer much more precise advise than any on teamliquid becuase he will know your exact ability.
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Mine is a Ukrainian lady :X
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On October 29 2005 06:32 Chris307 wrote:I don't know much about Classical music, just the basics that I've been taught by movies like Amadeus in highschool World Cultures classes. But I do have a few CDs... My favorite piece right now is probably Mozart's Overture from the Abduction from the Seraglio.  And of course Pa-Pa-Pa-Pa-Pa-Papagena.
Ya. Do you have the magic flute CD with Ziesak, Moll and Jo Sumi?
My favourite piece of opera however is in act 2 of Tristan und Isolde; "So starben wir..."
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On October 28 2005 21:48 (AnGeLs) wrote: Apocalyptica - Zelda Main Theme That is not by Apocalyptica.
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wow some classical lovers amongst the tl´netters! this is quite nice
i think that if anyone gives classical music a good chance, they will realize that it is the highest form of musical art there is to be offered. its simply amazing
for those of you who are just starting out to listen to classical.. i would suggest real easy pieces that are easy to start liking.. problem with classical is that the most beautiful music are very complex and hard to understand.. so listening to it once will not give you that satisfaction as like listening to a simple rap song or something of that sort.. it will take many times of listening until your mind can start unwrapping the pieces and appreciating everything.. and once you actually do appreciate man.. oh man.. its amazing
my personal favorites that i truly recommend to all is on orchestra pieces with violin solo
sibelius violin concerto.. man this piece is friggin AMAZING.. it is truly remarkable.. the second movement does wonders.. the best recording I have ever heard is with Christian Ferras with the berlin philarmonique.. this Ferras guy , french dude.. ended up killing himself and you will find that a lot of these amazing players who spilled their hearts out while playing music ended up suiciding at some point.. thats a bonus on quality there hehe
brahms violin concerto is really nice also.. tchaikovsky violin too.. David Oistrach has a cd with these both on it... definitely worth buying
now these 3 pieces are a little bit advanced.. so you have to really listen to them a couple times before appreciating them to the max.. recommendation is to do something while listening! give time for your brain to grasp
some nice cello pieces with orchestra is the dvorak cello concerto.. hmm oh brahms double concerto (amazing violin and cello).. and shostakovich cello concerto with the amazing Rostrapovich!
for solo pieces.. nice and easy ones are bach ciaccone (violin), this piece is one of those that everyone loves on the first listen.. its awesome.. these bach solo pieces for cello and violin are pretty nice and easy to learn but really hard to understand to its fullness
argh list goes on and on!
just a curious note, my family are all pretty much classical musicians and i am one of the black sheep.. but i feel uber fortunate to be able to have spent so much time with them because it took me forever to appreciate the music and i dont think i ever would without them for those really interested keep trying to like it because once you do it is friggin amazing! if anyone wants more recommendations feel free to pm
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Holst–The Planets' Symphony "Jupiter, Bringer of Jollity" and "Mars, Bringer of War"
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I listen to only classical music, because I am an elitist. Right now I'm listening to Pictures at an Exhibition (cliché!), and working on Bach - Toccata in E Minor (dunno which BWV), Beethoven - Sonata no. 27, and Brahms - Intermezzi op. 117. Two of my favorite pieces are Brahms - Piano Concerto no. 2; and Dvorak - Symphony no. 7 (much better than the 8th or 9th, really!)
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On October 29 2005 17:39 Raging.BuLL wrote: sibelius violin concerto.. man this piece is friggin AMAZING..
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I am currently learning piano from a world reknown artist named Theresa Keene. here's a lil' biography on her:
"She’s been called the “Queen of the Concert Grand,” and “The Longest Fingers in the West.” Pianist Theresa Keene, Principal Keyboardist of the Sacramento Philharmonic, debuted as a soloist at the age of twelve. In the ensuing years, she has continued to add to her distinguished career.
She has been a soloist, chamber musician and teacher of award-winning students. Among her many performances are those with symphony orchestras in Switzerland, New York and San Francisco. She holds a bachelor’s and master’s degree from the San Francisco Conservatory of Music. For 16 years she has been a professor at American River College, in addition to her busy performing schedule.
In October, 2003 Keene released her first CD, an appealing tribute to the many styles of music she loves. She mingles flawless renditions of Beethoven, Chopin and Prokofiev with two heartfelt spirituals. The CD is available locally at Kline Music and at Barnes & Noble. Keene looks forward to being one-third of Mozart’s Concerto for Three Pianos, adding her passion and elegance to the work, and sharing the stage with Music Director Michael Morgan and Assistant Conductor Ming Luke."
I have been studying with her for approxamatly 6 months, adding to my 1 hear of study. At the moment i am learning Rachmaninoff, Beethoveen, Schuman, Debussy, and Chopin ;O
i won't name the songs as i fear she is one of those teachers who has heard everything, and teaches me songs no one had heard =[
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liebesetraum by liszt
chopin's nocturne is good also.
LOL, moonlight sonata. (balabalabalbalbalblablalalablaaaba BOOMBOOM)
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anyone know stephen melillo? he is also one of my favorite composers. his music is from a technical standpoint relatively simple but it's so emotional and touching
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I listen to a wide range of classical music. As of lately, I've been listening to more classical than anything else. I generally just put on radio stations (mostly classical from di.fm and the local classical station that broadcasts out of st.louis.)
Since I played the piano for a long time, I've always had a thing for piano solo pieces and concertos. I'd say of those, I enjoy works by Chopin the most.
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I was just listening to a Troy Stetina's metal interpretation of Beethoven's 23rd Piano sonata. So fucking good.
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does anyone else just love beethoven's 7th symphony? the second part is so damn fast also, its really cool
btw does carmina burana's "o fortuna" count as classical?
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On October 28 2005 20:01 SproutBoy wrote: Wow, your heaps cool. If by "cool," you mean "retard," then you should probably realize that metal has its roots in classical music. Compare a Metallica solo to classical, and you'll see some similarities.
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Could any Classical music buff tell me what this song is? It's credited as "Canon Rock", but that seems pretty obscure.
http://210.61.218.117/grm.cdn.hinet.net/xuite/56/0c/12067215/blog_13366/dv/237948/237948.wmv
It's a chinese guy playing this piece on electric guitar, but you can still discern what the actual composition sounded like (actually you can hear the beginning of the composition for several seconds at the beginning of the clip). It should be quite famous iirc, because even I've heard it a lot of times, I just don't know the title/composer.
Thanks in advance!
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Vivaldi's violin concert in D major
Kicks ass and I can play it :D
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I loved a song from yo yo ma, or i thing he just interpreted a bach theme or something, its on the bass(that big violin yes?) i think and i remember it was called air or something. If you know what im talking about could someone link a dl to me plz or tell me the full name it would be appreciated.
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