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dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
April 15 2012 04:13 GMT
#181
It's just what your used to.

Growing up I used to wonder how people would eat cows(beef) and how in some parts people ate snakes. Then I shifted to a predominantly vegetarian school and people would freak out when I got chicken or any sort of meat for lunch lol.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
April 15 2012 04:14 GMT
#182
i've eaten before, i don't really see why people find it so repulsive. just another animal, although yea, i can understand the emotional attachement towards domestic animals. but fuck, as long as im not eating YOUR dog or YOUR cat, who cares >_>
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 15 2012 04:14 GMT
#183
On April 15 2012 13:10 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 12:12 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On April 15 2012 11:55 Silidons wrote:
On April 15 2012 11:31 r.Evo wrote:
As a vegetarian I have the clear view that it's okay to eat dog meat if you eat other meat anyway. Why? Because I can't take people seriously who gladly eat pigs or cows but then suddenly dogs, horses or cats are "too cute" to eat them.

Actually I can't take anyone seriously who eats meat but is unable to kill the animal himself and/or has never seen how it is done live and in person, but that's another topic.

also, i guess you're completely fine with human consumption too? we're only an animal, one with a conscience. that's the major difference between us and our primape relatives. you're fine with cannibalism since meat is meat?

what argument do you have for that?


There's nothing inherently wrong with consumption of human flesh either. I wouldn't care if someone ate me after I was dead.

Would you eat human flesh given it is healthy (fresh)?

id never eat fresh human flesh

id at least let it rest a couple days for rigor mortis to end

possibly more depending on wether that would actually tenderize the meat

then amybe another day or two in a nice marinade
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
April 15 2012 04:18 GMT
#184
I am a sucker for animals, especially dogs, and i am kinda against eating meat overall but im kind of a hypocrite and like eating stuff like roast beef deli sandwiches and Chicago Chinese food, but i would never stick dog meat in my mouth...
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ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
April 15 2012 04:18 GMT
#185
On April 15 2012 12:22 Piste wrote:
I would not eat another human being. I would not eat man's best friend.


If dog is the best friend you could have you should just end it now /slit

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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 15 2012 04:24 GMT
#186
Well...I love meat and eating new food is usually pretty exciting...I wouldn't go out of my way to eat it, but if the opportunity arose, I wouldn't say no to trying it out once.

I also want to note that it's no longer as common as some people think.
this is my quote.
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
April 15 2012 04:28 GMT
#187
On April 15 2012 12:58 Lu_e wrote:
No I do not believe eating "Mans best Friend" is ethical.

I'm 100% sure Dogs are more intelligent than chickens, cows and pigs. Dogs can be trained and used as awesome tools/companions.

Can this be said about cow chicken pig? c'mon now....

If we are going to be using intelligence as our point of "NO WE CAN'T EAT THIS!", then let's say we have this situation. There is a person who has gone into a vegetable state and has absolutely no ability to think/"be intelligent", that person's brain is only capable of supporting their body. Would be be alright to eat that person now, since based of the "intelligence" defense, it would be morally permissible then. Similarly (to go back to dogs) what if there was a dog in a similar state, can we eat that dog now since it doesn't have the mental ability to be "man's best friend".

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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 15 2012 04:29 GMT
#188
On April 15 2012 13:28 Imbu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 12:58 Lu_e wrote:
No I do not believe eating "Mans best Friend" is ethical.

I'm 100% sure Dogs are more intelligent than chickens, cows and pigs. Dogs can be trained and used as awesome tools/companions.

Can this be said about cow chicken pig? c'mon now....

If we are going to be using intelligence as our point of "NO WE CAN'T EAT THIS!", then let's say we have this situation. There is a person who has gone into a vegetable state and has absolutely no ability to think/"be intelligent", that person's brain is only capable of supporting their body. Would be be alright to eat that person now, since based of the "intelligence" defense, it would be morally permissible then. Similarly (to go back to dogs) what if there was a dog in a similar state, can we eat that dog now since it doesn't have the mental ability to be "man's best friend".


or what if a cow started talking would we be allowed to eat it then?
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
April 15 2012 04:30 GMT
#189
On April 15 2012 13:10 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 12:12 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On April 15 2012 11:55 Silidons wrote:
On April 15 2012 11:31 r.Evo wrote:
As a vegetarian I have the clear view that it's okay to eat dog meat if you eat other meat anyway. Why? Because I can't take people seriously who gladly eat pigs or cows but then suddenly dogs, horses or cats are "too cute" to eat them.

Actually I can't take anyone seriously who eats meat but is unable to kill the animal himself and/or has never seen how it is done live and in person, but that's another topic.

also, i guess you're completely fine with human consumption too? we're only an animal, one with a conscience. that's the major difference between us and our primape relatives. you're fine with cannibalism since meat is meat?

what argument do you have for that?


There's nothing inherently wrong with consumption of human flesh either. I wouldn't care if someone ate me after I was dead.

Would you eat human flesh given it is healthy (fresh)?


No, the thought disgusts me. Unless it was for survival.
There is no cow level
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States620 Posts
April 15 2012 04:37 GMT
#190
This thread is full of many examples of the perfect solution fallacy.

Example:
1. Whats the point of abstaining from eating dog meat if animals such as cows and chickens are still to be killed?
2. Abstaining from eating dogs is ineffective towards animal cruelty.

Another example:

If I donate to charity X, am I a hypocrite for ignoring charity Y?
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
April 15 2012 04:38 GMT
#191
Meat is meat. As long as it's not your pet or someone elses'.
taitanik
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia231 Posts
April 15 2012 04:40 GMT
#192
i dont see any difference between killing cow for meat and killing dog for meat
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 04:45:01
April 15 2012 04:43 GMT
#193
As long as the dog has no owner it's free game

Rose by any other name would smell as sweet, meat by any other source would taste as delicious
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smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
April 15 2012 04:44 GMT
#194
On April 15 2012 13:37 kidcrash wrote:
This thread is full of many examples of the perfect solution fallacy.

Example:
1. Whats the point of abstaining from eating dog meat if animals such as cows and chickens are still to be killed?
2. Abstaining from eating dogs is ineffective towards animal cruelty.

Another example:

If I donate to charity X, am I a hypocrite for ignoring charity Y?


Presumably a person eats a constant amount of meat regardless of the type. Not eating a dog means another pig eaten. Not that I care, I'd eat all of them and enjoy it. I don't discriminate in my genocide, I enjoy variety too much.
There is no cow level
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
April 15 2012 04:46 GMT
#195
I personally strongly disagree with it as my 2 dogs are the only things keeping me going at times in tough times at home; I dont know how i could consider them not as a part of the family; to me they are humans who just can't speak.
:O
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States620 Posts
April 15 2012 04:46 GMT
#196
On April 15 2012 13:44 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 13:37 kidcrash wrote:
This thread is full of many examples of the perfect solution fallacy.

Example:
1. Whats the point of abstaining from eating dog meat if animals such as cows and chickens are still to be killed?
2. Abstaining from eating dogs is ineffective towards animal cruelty.

Another example:

If I donate to charity X, am I a hypocrite for ignoring charity Y?


Presumably a person eats a constant amount of meat regardless of the type. Not eating a dog means another pig eaten. Not that I care, I'd eat all of them and enjoy it. I don't discriminate in my genocide, I enjoy variety too much.


I'd like a source for those statistics please.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 04:51:38
April 15 2012 04:46 GMT
#197
On April 15 2012 12:58 Lu_e wrote:
No I do not believe eating "Mans best Friend" is ethical.

I'm 100% sure Dogs are more intelligent than chickens, cows and pigs. Dogs can be trained and used as awesome tools/companions.

Can this be said about cow chicken pig? c'mon now....

Actually, many studies have shown that pigs are smarter than dogs. It's hard to test/rate their intelligence, because there is no standard animal IQ system. Nevertheless, they have been proven to be able to do some amazing tasks (that dogs can't do).

That aside, I don't see how the ability for dogs to be trained makes it unethical to eat their meet. Because they can be "used as awesome tools," we can't eat them? As far as companionship goes...well, different people and cultures have their own preferences.

As part of our culture, you probably know a lot about dogs through common media and real life experiences. Outside of how the media depicts pigs, however, how much do you actually know about the species? You probably think of them as stupid animals, because the only image you can conjure in your head when "pig" is mentioned is a bunch of mud-covered farm animals crammed in a pen, oinking garishly.

I'm not blaming you or anything. Because of my cultural experience, I would never eat dog either. But I don't see anything wrong with other people wanting to eat dog, or any other non-endangered animal, for that matter. As long as the animals are being killed humanely, etc., who am I to judge others' cultural norms?

Some links on pig intelligence:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/science/10angier.html?_r=1
http://www.amazon.com/Advances-Swine-Biomedical-Research-Schook/dp/0306454955
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/the-joy-of-pigs/smart-clean-and-lean/2126/
ObliviousNA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States535 Posts
April 15 2012 04:52 GMT
#198
On April 15 2012 13:44 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 13:37 kidcrash wrote:
This thread is full of many examples of the perfect solution fallacy.

Example:
1. Whats the point of abstaining from eating dog meat if animals such as cows and chickens are still to be killed?
2. Abstaining from eating dogs is ineffective towards animal cruelty.

Another example:

If I donate to charity X, am I a hypocrite for ignoring charity Y?


Presumably a person eats a constant amount of meat regardless of the type. Not eating a dog means another pig eaten. Not that I care, I'd eat all of them and enjoy it. I don't discriminate in my genocide, I enjoy variety too much.


Well I may be going out on a limb here, but you (hopefully) discriminate against human meat. There is SOME gray area for everyone here, not all black and white.

This whole thread then becomes a matter of
a) where you draw the line personally and
b) whether you look down on others for drawing that line elsewhere.
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. In our lab, theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
tripper688
Profile Joined January 2011
United States569 Posts
April 15 2012 04:53 GMT
#199
On April 15 2012 09:06 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 08:38 babylon wrote:
On April 15 2012 08:29 yeaR wrote:
I don't mind people eating it, I just don't like the way it's being bred.. etc..

Look up the details of egg-farming (from chickens in particular, though I'm sure the conditions are just as bad for ducks, quails, etc.). The treatment's inhumane. I would say that most animals that provide food for us are treated poorly.

Anyways, lots of people keep fish and birds but have no issue eating salmon/tuna/etc. or chicken/quail/duck/etc., so it's kind of funny that some claim that eating dogs is barbaric or w/e just because they own a dog. I'm kind of ambivalent to it myself, but I wouldn't be horrified by the prospect of eating dogmeat. I'd take it over escargot any day of the week ...

and then theres veal

there stuck in a cage where they literally have no room to move and fed until there jsut the right age then killed

and theres foie gras (gah i know i butchered the spelling) where they put a duck in a box essentially and forcefeed it until its liver is like 90% fat

but dam does it taste good, im pretty sure theres a positive correlation between the inhuman rearing of an animal and how good it tastes

nah but msot meat taste best when its owner got to run around and be more natural

aside from Veal


That's how you spell it...lol. And no, I don't see why people should have a problem with dog meat for any reason unless it was their own personal dog (pet) that was killed for food. Seriously, "domesticated" arguments are crap. You know what basically all livestock (unless you live in like Australia with a good supply of kangaroo) is? Domesticated animals. They've been bred to benefit humans. Whether it's as food, as beasts of burden, or for work, they were bred to better suit our needs. It sure as hell isn't for the betterment of their needs. Side note, the real problem with cruelty to dogs is not that people eat them. It's that people insist on breeding them into ridiculous freak shows completely different from what nature intended. So many popular pure bred dog breeds wind up genetically predisposed to health problems, yet owners insist on buying and furthering the cruelty...makes me face palm when they complain about dogs being used as food.
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Benga
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)471 Posts
April 15 2012 05:02 GMT
#200
i agree that dogs are delicious.yum
and if ytou disagree why the hell do you eat other animals?
what do you think about eating horses? lol hypocrites
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