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On July 03 2013 03:29 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 03:28 m4inbrain wrote: Wow, that resistance to say it was weird. The way she is dancing around the topics throws her objectivity out of the air. She clearly seems to have an agenda. What a joke witness.
Have to agree. And the defense kinda pointed it out right at the beginning with "you do alot of stuff for these guys over there, right?".
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Keep in mind foilks that people said very similar things about the hired guns brought forth by the defense in the Jody Arias trial, and they managed to basically save her life. Never underestimate the sparkle of expertise in the eyes of the layperson juror.
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Smooth move O'Mara. Using Trayvon's lack of injuries to get her to say that just because she saw no injuries on him doesn't mean there was no impacts. He used that to make the same statement about Zimmerman, many impacts could have happened without leaving injury. Bam.
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omg..everytime i think they gain some ground they get roflstomped protrusion? wt..
lol? if you were alive?
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this expert is getting owned. I'd feel sympathy for her if this weren't a murder trial.
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On July 03 2013 03:32 czylu wrote: this expert is getting owned. I'd feel sympathy for her if this weren't a murder trial.
The expert shouldn't be playing favorites.
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ROFL!
This lady just can't say anything that would be consistent with the defense and it's making her look completely foolish.
Unreal that this kind of testimony is legal, do the oaths to tell the truth mean nothing at all?
Has she never had a nosebleed? It was like UNFATHOMABLE to her that blood in the nose could be swallowed if lying down. Jesus Christ this makes me rage.
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On July 03 2013 03:33 mastergriggy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 03:32 czylu wrote: this expert is getting owned. I'd feel sympathy for her if this weren't a murder trial. The expert shouldn't be playing favorites. Yeah, the one thing that O'Mara didn't do was set the stage for this cross examination by laying out all of the rules of the road for experts with regards to presenting unbiased testimony and opinions.
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Unreal that this kind of testimony is legal, do the oaths to tell the truth mean nothing at all?
It could be.
Also, she's not lying. She's basically doing what all people in this courtroom do. Try to "hide" some facts, or point out others.
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On July 03 2013 03:34 crms wrote: ROFL!
This lady just can't say anything that would be consistent with the defense and it's making her look completely foolish.
Unreal that this kind of testimony is legal, do the oaths to tell the truth mean nothing at all?
Has she never had a nosebleed? It was like UNFATHOMABLE to her that blood in the nose could be swallowed if lying down. Jesus Christ this makes me rage. Making really shitty arguments has never been illegal. Having selective memory isn't illegal either. Why? Because it is far to easy to make that person look stupid on the stand.
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O'Mara needed to dwell on the fact that she can't testify to a reasonable degree of medical certainty that there was just one strike rather than just kinda gloss over it. I would have asked the same question 2 or 3 times in different ways to drive the point home.
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Well, granted, her resistance to the defence testimony appears very jarring to us because all of the other prosecution LEO witnesses have so far been very sympathetic to Zimmerman.
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So surely this level of uncooperativeness cannot help the prosecution, and surely she has to some extent been told by the prosecution what to do. Wouldn't the prosecution have seen this coming and coached her on how to deal with it and how much ground to give? This seems completely counter-productive, even if it is legal (I have no idea if it is).
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On July 03 2013 03:35 m4inbrain wrote:Show nested quote +Unreal that this kind of testimony is legal, do the oaths to tell the truth mean nothing at all?
It could be. Also, she's not lying. She's basically doing what all people in this courtroom do. Try to "hide" some facts, or point out others.
I think she thinks shes smarter than the lawyer or something, keeps trying to maneuver her answers instead of keeping it short and direct.
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Because the injuries are all very minor. She suggests it was "one impact" because if you are "smashed repeatedly into concrete" you would obviuosly bleed more.
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Haha maybe it's because the stream is not very high resolution, but it looks like O'Mara is just randomly moving his laser pointer around and having the witness agree repeatedly that each area might have contacted cement.
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this expert really isnt doing that bad of a job. his head injuries do appear consistent with one or two blows to the head, or one blow to the head and zimmerman falling down to the ground/ concrete.
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On July 03 2013 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote: this expert really isnt doing that bad of a job. his head injuries do appear consistent with one or two blows to the head, or one blow to the head and zimmerman falling down to the ground/ concrete.
what's the point though? his injuries are consistent with 1 blow, 2 blows, 3 blows, 10 blows.
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On July 03 2013 03:41 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote: this expert really isnt doing that bad of a job. his head injuries do appear consistent with one or two blows to the head, or one blow to the head and zimmerman falling down to the ground/ concrete. what's the point though? his injuries are consistent with 1 blow, 2 blows, 3 blows, 10 blows.
But they're not consistent with "getting his head smashed into the cement" over and over. I'm not sure that that's the point they're trying to make, but well.
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On July 03 2013 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote: this expert really isnt doing that bad of a job. his head injuries do appear consistent with one or two blows to the head, or one blow to the head and zimmerman falling down to the ground/ concrete. The problem is that she's fighting O'Mara too much on the obvious.
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