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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

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m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
July 02 2013 18:30 GMT
#4941
On July 03 2013 03:29 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:28 m4inbrain wrote:
Wow, that resistance to say it was weird.



The way she is dancing around the topics throws her objectivity out of the air. She clearly seems to have an agenda. What a joke witness.


Have to agree. And the defense kinda pointed it out right at the beginning with "you do alot of stuff for these guys over there, right?".
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
July 02 2013 18:31 GMT
#4942
Keep in mind foilks that people said very similar things about the hired guns brought forth by the defense in the Jody Arias trial, and they managed to basically save her life. Never underestimate the sparkle of expertise in the eyes of the layperson juror.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 02 2013 18:31 GMT
#4943
Smooth move O'Mara. Using Trayvon's lack of injuries to get her to say that just because she saw no injuries on him doesn't mean there was no impacts. He used that to make the same statement about Zimmerman, many impacts could have happened without leaving injury. Bam.
AdamBanks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada996 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 18:33:38
July 02 2013 18:32 GMT
#4944
omg..everytime i think they gain some ground they get roflstomped protrusion? wt..

lol? if you were alive?
I wrote a song once.
czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
July 02 2013 18:32 GMT
#4945
this expert is getting owned. I'd feel sympathy for her if this weren't a murder trial.
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
July 02 2013 18:33 GMT
#4946
On July 03 2013 03:32 czylu wrote:
this expert is getting owned. I'd feel sympathy for her if this weren't a murder trial.


The expert shouldn't be playing favorites.
Write your own song!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 18:35:55
July 02 2013 18:34 GMT
#4947
ROFL!

This lady just can't say anything that would be consistent with the defense and it's making her look completely foolish.

Unreal that this kind of testimony is legal, do the oaths to tell the truth mean nothing at all?


Has she never had a nosebleed? It was like UNFATHOMABLE to her that blood in the nose could be swallowed if lying down. Jesus Christ this makes me rage.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 02 2013 18:35 GMT
#4948
On July 03 2013 03:33 mastergriggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:32 czylu wrote:
this expert is getting owned. I'd feel sympathy for her if this weren't a murder trial.


The expert shouldn't be playing favorites.

Yeah, the one thing that O'Mara didn't do was set the stage for this cross examination by laying out all of the rules of the road for experts with regards to presenting unbiased testimony and opinions.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
July 02 2013 18:35 GMT
#4949
Unreal that this kind of testimony is legal, do the oaths to tell the truth mean nothing at all?


It could be.

Also, she's not lying. She's basically doing what all people in this courtroom do. Try to "hide" some facts, or point out others.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 02 2013 18:37 GMT
#4950
On July 03 2013 03:34 crms wrote:
ROFL!

This lady just can't say anything that would be consistent with the defense and it's making her look completely foolish.

Unreal that this kind of testimony is legal, do the oaths to tell the truth mean nothing at all?


Has she never had a nosebleed? It was like UNFATHOMABLE to her that blood in the nose could be swallowed if lying down. Jesus Christ this makes me rage.

Making really shitty arguments has never been illegal. Having selective memory isn't illegal either. Why? Because it is far to easy to make that person look stupid on the stand.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 18:37:31
July 02 2013 18:37 GMT
#4951
O'Mara needed to dwell on the fact that she can't testify to a reasonable degree of medical certainty that there was just one strike rather than just kinda gloss over it. I would have asked the same question 2 or 3 times in different ways to drive the point home.
FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
July 02 2013 18:37 GMT
#4952
Well, granted, her resistance to the defence testimony appears very jarring to us because all of the other prosecution LEO witnesses have so far been very sympathetic to Zimmerman.
Fat chicks need love too.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 02 2013 18:37 GMT
#4953
So surely this level of uncooperativeness cannot help the prosecution, and surely she has to some extent been told by the prosecution what to do. Wouldn't the prosecution have seen this coming and coached her on how to deal with it and how much ground to give? This seems completely counter-productive, even if it is legal (I have no idea if it is).
AdamBanks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada996 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 18:38:25
July 02 2013 18:38 GMT
#4954
On July 03 2013 03:35 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
Unreal that this kind of testimony is legal, do the oaths to tell the truth mean nothing at all?


It could be.

Also, she's not lying. She's basically doing what all people in this courtroom do. Try to "hide" some facts, or point out others.



I think she thinks shes smarter than the lawyer or something, keeps trying to maneuver her answers instead of keeping it short and direct.
I wrote a song once.
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
July 02 2013 18:38 GMT
#4955
Because the injuries are all very minor. She suggests it was "one impact" because if you are "smashed repeatedly into concrete" you would obviuosly bleed more.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
July 02 2013 18:39 GMT
#4956
Haha maybe it's because the stream is not very high resolution, but it looks like O'Mara is just randomly moving his laser pointer around and having the witness agree repeatedly that each area might have contacted cement.
Fat chicks need love too.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 02 2013 18:40 GMT
#4957
this expert really isnt doing that bad of a job. his head injuries do appear consistent with one or two blows to the head, or one blow to the head and zimmerman falling down to the ground/ concrete.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 02 2013 18:41 GMT
#4958
On July 03 2013 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
this expert really isnt doing that bad of a job. his head injuries do appear consistent with one or two blows to the head, or one blow to the head and zimmerman falling down to the ground/ concrete.



what's the point though? his injuries are consistent with 1 blow, 2 blows, 3 blows, 10 blows.
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m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
July 02 2013 18:42 GMT
#4959
On July 03 2013 03:41 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
this expert really isnt doing that bad of a job. his head injuries do appear consistent with one or two blows to the head, or one blow to the head and zimmerman falling down to the ground/ concrete.



what's the point though? his injuries are consistent with 1 blow, 2 blows, 3 blows, 10 blows.


But they're not consistent with "getting his head smashed into the cement" over and over. I'm not sure that that's the point they're trying to make, but well.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 02 2013 18:43 GMT
#4960
On July 03 2013 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
this expert really isnt doing that bad of a job. his head injuries do appear consistent with one or two blows to the head, or one blow to the head and zimmerman falling down to the ground/ concrete.

The problem is that she's fighting O'Mara too much on the obvious.
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