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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

If you make an uninformed post, or one that isn't relevant to the discussion, you will be moderated. If in doubt, don't post.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 02 2013 18:11 GMT
#4901
a broken nose is insignificant? =(
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 02 2013 18:12 GMT
#4902
Serino has already testified that no injuries are required to show self-defense, so good luck with this witness.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
July 02 2013 18:12 GMT
#4903
They were explicitely talking about the lacerations on the back. They are insignificant.
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
July 02 2013 18:13 GMT
#4904
On July 03 2013 02:41 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:32 Kaitlin wrote:
I wonder, to those who have changed their view of this trial from initial impressions and conclusions based on media coverage to actually observing the evidence at trial, to what extent do you intend to view your other perceptions formed by the media, such as political groups such as the Tea Party ? It's the same media outlets "covering" this case as those "covering" politics, so I wonder if anyone is going to take a second look at other topics these media outlets cover and possibly reconsider what they believe with the knowledge now that the media tends to be full of shit and coloring their coverage to suit their agenda.

It's another reminder that you have to be careful, for sure. That said, the tea party's image is also largely based on stupid stuff that they've said or done. Michele Bachmann has said more than her fair share of crazy stuff.

Edit: And also sometimes they're just too far on the right, and us left-wing folks simply vehemently disagree.

There ARE sane Tea Party members. The media just never reports on them because they're too sane. Sanity doesn't make for good ratings.

I think the big lesson to take from this trial is that, as far as the media is concerned, ratings > truth. And nothing improves ratings like conflict, so they try their hardest to stir shit up.

The 24-hour "News" cycle is the most despicable system on Earth.
Who called in the fleet?
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 18:14:58
July 02 2013 18:14 GMT
#4905
Is it just me or does the fact that the prosecution keeps pointing to injuries themselves being not "life-threatening" hurting their case ? They are actively trying to base their case on something that their own witness has said is irrelevant.
Zeevo
Profile Joined June 2011
148 Posts
July 02 2013 18:14 GMT
#4906
any up-to-date predictions on how this is going to go? who is guilty?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
July 02 2013 18:14 GMT
#4907
The significance of a given set of injuries is a difficult concept to parse out meaningfully. Not sure how I feel about this. A broken nose is fairly insignificant against the backdrop of murder, but against the backdrop of an as of yet alive assailant gaining the upper hand I'm not so sure.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 02 2013 18:14 GMT
#4908
On July 03 2013 03:12 Kaitlin wrote:
Serino has already testified that no injuries are required to show self-defense, so good luck with this witness.


So I guess they just want this lady to speak about how minor the injuries are in the hopes the jury ignores the last 2 weeks of trial?
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FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
July 02 2013 18:14 GMT
#4909
So very disappointing.
Fat chicks need love too.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 02 2013 18:14 GMT
#4910
"head injuries consistent with hitting concrete"

so much for the absence of blood argument.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 02 2013 18:15 GMT
#4911
This is total expert-whore testimony that could anger the jury.
Fuzzyhead
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany55 Posts
July 02 2013 18:16 GMT
#4912
On July 03 2013 03:15 xDaunt wrote:
This is total expert-whore testimony that could anger the jury.


How so?
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
July 02 2013 18:16 GMT
#4913
I guess the injuries are not "American History X" like severe
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 02 2013 18:16 GMT
#4914
On July 03 2013 03:14 Zeevo wrote:
any up-to-date predictions on how this is going to go? who is guilty?


It's not really a whodunnit. It's either Zimmerman is guilty or Zimmerman is not guilty. Barring a miracle or completely retarded jury, this appears to be a clear not guilty.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 18:17:28
July 02 2013 18:17 GMT
#4915
On July 03 2013 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
"head injuries consistent with hitting concrete"

so much for the absence of blood argument.


You pretty much know why there is no blood. Hit your head somewhere so hard that it starts bleeding, and then check the surface, if you can see any blood there. For you to have blood on the surface, you need to touch it again

edit:

not that it would matter though.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 18:17:59
July 02 2013 18:17 GMT
#4916
On July 03 2013 03:16 Fuzzyhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:15 xDaunt wrote:
This is total expert-whore testimony that could anger the jury.


How so?

Juries can respond poorly to "hired gun" experts. Its like you are paying for someone to agree with your case.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 02 2013 18:17 GMT
#4917
I thought it was already established that it was raining that night.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 02 2013 18:18 GMT
#4918
On July 03 2013 03:17 xDaunt wrote:
I thought it was already established that it was raining that night.

Gotta remind people just to make sure they know how rain works?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 02 2013 18:18 GMT
#4919
On July 03 2013 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
"head injuries consistent with hitting concrete"

so much for the absence of blood argument.

i think her main point is that its not consistent with repeated bashing as zimmerman has said although its consistent with one strike.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
July 02 2013 18:19 GMT
#4920
On July 03 2013 03:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:14 dAPhREAk wrote:
"head injuries consistent with hitting concrete"

so much for the absence of blood argument.

i think her main point is that its not consistent with repeated bashing as zimmerman has said although its consistent with one strike.


Either its lag, or you're spot on, she just said that.
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