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Glaceau
Profile Joined February 2012
Wales333 Posts
March 14 2012 17:18 GMT
#741
the new wave of sc2 children are fairly hilarious. SC2 is basically the LoL of dota compared to brood war. thats why this argument cracks me up everytime.
Cmon, swing it
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 14 2012 17:19 GMT
#742
At its heart, the problem is that SC2 isnt as good as BW. If it was, this wouldnt be an issue. Be mad at your own game, not the fact that another did something right.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 17:19:39
March 14 2012 17:19 GMT
#743
On March 15 2012 02:16 Royskopp wrote:
To be honest, SC2 is hard and I enjoy playing games with a certain degree of sophistication and beauty rather than easy, rather trashy games (like LoL) owned by money hungry corporations. When you have to pay for extra items the competitive communal nature of the game disappears and it turns into an e-casino or something along those lines.

Nowadays everyone just wants to ride the wave and tag along with whatever the current fad is.


We have a winner. "Pay for extra items"

+1 to the total number of idiotic trolls who have never even experienced LoL or MOBA in any form yet come here to bitch and moan that the success of a game is bad for gaming in general!
Useless wet fish.
atwar
Profile Joined May 2011
57 Posts
March 14 2012 17:20 GMT
#744
wow i cant believe it , they won. these times are crazy the worst game ever created , is popular??
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 14 2012 17:20 GMT
#745
On March 15 2012 02:19 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 02:16 Royskopp wrote:
To be honest, SC2 is hard and I enjoy playing games with a certain degree of sophistication and beauty rather than easy, rather trashy games (like LoL) owned by money hungry corporations. When you have to pay for extra items the competitive communal nature of the game disappears and it turns into an e-casino or something along those lines.

Nowadays everyone just wants to ride the wave and tag along with whatever the current fad is.


We have a winner. "Pay for extra items"

+1 to the total number of idiotic trolls who have never even experienced LoL or MOBA in any form yet come here to bitch and moan that the success of a game is bad for gaming in general!


Dem Skins mang, everyone knows the team with more skins win

that's why 2k elo people are 2k, they got ALL the skins from tournaments, so they naturally always win.
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
March 14 2012 17:20 GMT
#746
LoL is a fun game but I happen to enjoy watching many different competitive titles. One thing is for certain is watching DotA/HoN/LoL can be boring at times. And.. for a new spectator, totally impossible to understand... but this can only be good for esports if more people become interested in one of its premier titles at the moment.
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
March 14 2012 17:21 GMT
#747
On March 15 2012 02:20 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 02:19 Capped wrote:
On March 15 2012 02:16 Royskopp wrote:
To be honest, SC2 is hard and I enjoy playing games with a certain degree of sophistication and beauty rather than easy, rather trashy games (like LoL) owned by money hungry corporations. When you have to pay for extra items the competitive communal nature of the game disappears and it turns into an e-casino or something along those lines.

Nowadays everyone just wants to ride the wave and tag along with whatever the current fad is.


We have a winner. "Pay for extra items"

+1 to the total number of idiotic trolls who have never even experienced LoL or MOBA in any form yet come here to bitch and moan that the success of a game is bad for gaming in general!


Dem Skins mang, everyone knows the team with more skins win

that's why 2k elo people are 2k, they got ALL the skins from tournaments, so they naturally always win.


My mistake, he's totally right O.O HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS. My education has been for nothing
Useless wet fish.
VoO
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany278 Posts
March 14 2012 17:24 GMT
#748
Besides the stupid exclusive contracts which Blizzard did in Korea, Koreans are generally butthurt when it comes to sequels, e.g. Lineage 2. SC2 never had a chance, you just don't release a sequel with an ongoing number in Korea.
♥ 김택용 ♥Casual Dwarf Fortress Progamer
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 14 2012 17:25 GMT
#749
when you start to see so many agonizing posts that should be reported, thats when you know this thread needs some moderation :/
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 17:26:23
March 14 2012 17:25 GMT
#750
On March 15 2012 02:24 VoO wrote:
Besides the stupid exclusive contracts which Blizzard did in Korea, Koreans are generally butthurt when it comes to sequels, e.g. Lineage 2. SC2 never had a chance, you just don't release a sequel with an ongoing number in Korea.

It seems your sample size of 1 game is sufficiently large enough to justify lumping an entire country's population of ~50 million and making a sweeping generalization such as "Koreans are generally butthurt when it comes to sequels"! Oh wait...
Translator
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
March 14 2012 17:26 GMT
#751
It's not too surprising with regard to competitive multiplayer games. Look at what the Call of Duty franchise turned into, and how much revenue it grosses.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
March 14 2012 17:26 GMT
#752
On March 15 2012 02:24 VoO wrote:
Besides the stupid exclusive contracts which Blizzard did in Korea, Koreans are generally butthurt when it comes to sequels, e.g. Lineage 2. SC2 never had a chance, you just don't release a sequel with an ongoing number in Korea.

what do you know about us koreans?
POGGERS
junmkk
Profile Joined February 2011
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 17:28:42
March 14 2012 17:26 GMT
#753
I'm a Masters player that started with SC2 and now spends more time playing LoL...

SC2
- more mechanical demand
- bigger punishments for mistakes, normally game-ending
- less room for comebacks
- less social
- dwindling competition (at a scary rate... season 2 - 2,000,000 people. season 5 - 500,000)
- team battles aren't taken seriously
- game seems less balanced for 99% of the player base

I enjoy watching SC2 more than LoL, but LoL is still enjoyable to watch and it's way more fun to play.

My personal reason for switching over to mostly LoL is that I don't think this game is close to balanced below pro level. Having the option to FFE into 8 gates and beat top 8 Master Zergs, likewise for 4-gate in PvP... why would I do anything else? Put MORE mechanical demand on myself for LESS chance of winning so that eventually when my mechanics are good enough I can play the top 0.1%? No thanks. If using easy strategies will land me in the top 4%, then I will do just that.

Damage is just done too quickly and unpleasant surprises are 99% of the time game ending... only people with deep mastery of the game will be able play out the game in a non-derpy way.
glhf -masters
Zerksys
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States569 Posts
March 14 2012 17:26 GMT
#754
On March 15 2012 01:57 Thesidu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 01:47 Xayoz wrote:
Well. I certainly can't see the growing popularity of LoL as a bad thing.
There will always be a crowd for rts and I do believe Starcraft will be the one rts for years to come.

Also, cant help to notice, there are people who honestly believe Dota2 will overtake LoL. Bwhaah!


Dota is not that big in US but it is huge in east europe, russia and china. It is likely that dota 2 will "overtake" lol in those areas, once the game is actually released.


I don't know much about Eastern Europeans, but I know my Chinese friends are having a lot of trouble with steam partially because debit and credit cards over there are such a complicated system. Steam and valve in general isn't really that popular in China as of yet (last time I checked). So Dota 2 will have to overcome this hurdle in China.
What's that probe doing there? It's a scout. You mean one of those flying planes? No....
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
March 14 2012 17:27 GMT
#755
On March 15 2012 02:15 konadora wrote:
i give up

play lol with me =)
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
VoO
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 17:29:57
March 14 2012 17:28 GMT
#756
On March 15 2012 02:25 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 02:24 VoO wrote:
Besides the stupid exclusive contracts which Blizzard did in Korea, Koreans are generally butthurt when it comes to sequels, e.g. Lineage 2. SC2 never had a chance, you just don't release a sequel with an ongoing number in Korea.

It seems your sample size of 1 game is sufficiently large enough to justify lumping an entire country's population of ~50 million and making a sweeping generalization such as "Koreans are generally butthurt when it comes to sequels"! Oh wait...


Hehe, okay I admit it I was half-joking the reason of course is the incredible amount of money Riot invests into promotion (hello Nada-I-do-everything-for-money) and tournaments (5 million dollars please). On the side, LoL doesn't have competition in Asia. Chinese players are really strong in DotA but it becomes kind of outdated and FPS took over.
♥ 김택용 ♥Casual Dwarf Fortress Progamer
Zerksys
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States569 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 17:30:18
March 14 2012 17:28 GMT
#757
On March 15 2012 02:24 VoO wrote:
Besides the stupid exclusive contracts which Blizzard did in Korea, Koreans are generally butthurt when it comes to sequels, e.g. Lineage 2. SC2 never had a chance, you just don't release a sequel with an ongoing number in Korea.


I have only 3 words to say to you. War Craft THREEEEEEEEEEE

Edit: Also broodwar is an expansion!!
What's that probe doing there? It's a scout. You mean one of those flying planes? No....
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 14 2012 17:29 GMT
#758
On March 15 2012 02:27 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 02:15 konadora wrote:
i give up

play lol with me =)

He has been claimed by Dota

he is mine.
WriterXiao8~~
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 17:30:39
March 14 2012 17:29 GMT
#759
On March 15 2012 02:28 VoO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 02:25 rotinegg wrote:
On March 15 2012 02:24 VoO wrote:
Besides the stupid exclusive contracts which Blizzard did in Korea, Koreans are generally butthurt when it comes to sequels, e.g. Lineage 2. SC2 never had a chance, you just don't release a sequel with an ongoing number in Korea.

It seems your sample size of 1 game is sufficiently large enough to justify lumping an entire country's population of ~50 million and making a sweeping generalization such as "Koreans are generally butthurt when it comes to sequels"! Oh wait...


Hehe, okay I admit it I was half-joking the reason of course is the incredible amount of money Riot invests into promotion (hello Nada-I-do-everything-for-money) and tournaments (500k dollars please).

Fixed it for ya! This is just my personal opinion, but I had fun playing LoL while I didn't playing Sc2
Translator
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
March 14 2012 17:30 GMT
#760
On March 15 2012 02:02 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 02:01 rotinegg wrote:
On March 15 2012 01:58 Gosi wrote:
On March 15 2012 01:37 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 15 2012 01:36 jpak wrote:
On March 15 2012 01:35 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 15 2012 01:34 jpak wrote:
To those saying that LoL Esports will not last long in Korea:

Not if Kim Carrier is involved! (Shameless self-promotion as well).

Tossgirl on Carrier

ACEEEEEEEEEEEEE? ACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! AHHHHHHHHH ACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Man Korean LoL commentary is so hilarious. "MORGANA ULTI AAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!"
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Makes the game so much better than it is, spectator wise.

And I've always wondered why foreign casters/commentators can't do the same.


that's gotta be some of the most exciting foreign e-sports commentary i've ever heard

you should watch some of his casts, Tobi Wan Kenobi's stream is featured on TL, go check it out especially during weekends when he streams more, he's honestly the best commentator that is as good as the korean MBC commentators.



Tobi is too much of a spaz for my liking. I mean there's being excited about stuff and then there's that. Too over the top for me. I don't see Al Michaels screaming till his throat bleeds when he's announcing a football game. Can be excited without shouting at the top of your lungs jumbling all your words together.
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