EPT50 Cent: The Poet - Page 3
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IcedEarth
United States3661 Posts
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AutumnLight
Ukraine2488 Posts
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IcedEarth
United States3661 Posts
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ChApFoU
France2984 Posts
On September 15 2005 21:19 eG)HeavenS wrote: That particular song was a diss towards other rappers, Fat Joe, Jadakiss and Nas, it wasn't meant to be lyrical genius. You guys don't like it because most of you like rock...and you compare your rap to rock....when are you going to understand you can't compare the two genres, they're completely different. What do they say thats so good in rock? Pls enlighten me? If you don't like it then don't listen to it. But in the end its still selling alot more records than any of the bands you listen to. O and you think people that like rap don't separate the good type of rap from the bad one, real lyrical rap vs Club shit made just to sell talking about money cars only? Just like you separate your "real" rock from your "gay emo shit" or w.e . And if you can't understand why people like rap .... then don't keep on trying, chances are you never will. Just like some of you don't like techno....theres alot more to it thatn just "the same shit all over again and again" . Its a different genre therefore calls for different aspects like the way it builds up to a climax while incorporating other rythms, you cant appreciate that because your not an average listener of techno, while a person that listens to it can distinguish which song took more talent, or is better in their aspects. Same goes for rap. I'm not sayin' the whole hip-hop / rap scene is crap but from a neutral point of view these lyriics really suck :/ they are awful lyrics in all musical genres | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28797 Posts
On September 15 2005 21:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Rap is the rape of Poetry. I always preferred the Rap = retards attempting poetry which definitely is not entirely true though. many rap artists are very skilled wordsmiths. =] 50 cent is NOT one of them.  and in all genres of music where vocals are implemented you will find pretty fucking shitty lyrics if you look for it. | ||
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HaiVan
Bulgaria1698 Posts
So fucking what ? | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
On September 16 2005 04:50 HaiVan wrote: He got shot 9 times ! So fucking what ? He's tough and it makes his music good, duh;) | ||
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LostDevil
Fiji283 Posts
On September 15 2005 23:51 IcedEarth wrote: Hey, this isn't a making-fun-of-rap thread. It's a 50-cent-is-the-shittiest-excuse-of-a-musician/artist-of-all-time thread. haha someones jealous that he runs shit right now and ure bands dont get nearly much as publicity or make nearly as much money anymore. get over it this is an immature thread. no hes not the greateset rapper but he is a great business man, that is undeniable. and don't tell me he doesnt come up with any ideas and its just his marketing team or some bullshit. that iced earth song was one of the more pathetic things i ever wasting my time reading because of the sheer fact it has probably caused more kids to commit suicide than all of rap music has caused people to shoot each other. some people like music that will get them a little pumped up from time to time, some of those people choose rap like myself. | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
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lebowskiguy
Greece201 Posts
My Thoughts: Look Out Plato! My thought: Plato is not a poet. Yep 50cent sucks. However, lyrics don't matter to everyone. I bet they don't matter to you,given the fact that Iced Earth's lyrics are so "metally"cliche when talking about demons, hell etc and truly horrible when talking about more common stuff (friendship etc). I think their best album is burnt offerings, not due to the lyrics though (I stopped listening when the dark saga album came out ).About their song writing throughout their albums:This whole caffeine overdose rythm guitar thing is getting tiring and the songs are not getting more mature, in fact they are continuously getting worse. My hard-earned opinion on "metal" music at the present is : It's like an ocean of shit with a few diamonds hidden in it. I wonder if its worth the dive. On September 15 2005 21:34 MPXMX wrote: What is this song all about? Can’t figure any lyrics out How do the words to it go? I wish you’d tell me, I don’t know Don’t know, don’t know, don’t know, oh no Don’t know, don’t know, don’t know... Well , these are not your own parody lyrics of smells like teen spirit. I've seen that funny video too. I believe the original song has good lyrics, even if they at some point get incredibly personal (beyond any understanding) It's not always about the lyrics though. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
 [Talib Kweli] (Spoken) Yea, so we got this tune called ";For Women"; right Originally, it was by Nina Simone She said it was inspired by, you know Down south. In the south, they used to call her Mother Antie She said No Mrs. Just Antie She said if anybody ever called her Antie she'd burn the whole goddamn place down I'm over past that Coming into the new millenium, we can't forget our elders [Talib Kweli] I got off the 2 train in Brooklyn on my way to a session Said let me help this woman up the stairs before I get to steppin' We got in a conversation she said she a 107 Just her presence was a blessing and her essence was a lesson She had her head wrapped And long dreads that peeked out the back Like antenna to help her get a sense of where she was at, imagine that Livin' a century, the strenght of her memories Felt like an angel had been sent to me She lived from nigger to colored to negro to black To afro then african-american and right back to nigger You figure she'd be bitter in the twilight But she alright, cuz she done sseen the circle of life yo Her skin was black like it was packed with melanin Back in the days of slaves she packin' like Harriet Tubman Her arms are long and she moves like song Feet with corns, hand with callouses But her heart is warm and her hair is wooly And it attract a lot of energy even negative She gotta dead that the head wrap is her remedy Her back is strong and she far from a vagabond This is the back of the masters' whip used to crack upon Strong enough to take all the pain, that's been Inflicted again and again and again and again and flipped It to the love for her children nothing else matters What do they call her? They call her aunt Sara. Woman singing in the background [Talib Kweli] (+ Background Vocals) I know a girl with a name as beautiful as the rain Her face is the same but she suffers an unusual pain Seems she only deals with losers who be usin' them games Chasin' the real brothers away like she confused in the brain She tried to get it where she fit in on that American Dream mission paid tuition For the receipt to find out her history was missing and started flippin Seeing the world through very different eyes People askin' her what she'll do when it comes time to chose sides Yo, her skin is yellow, it's like her face is blond word is bond And her hair is long and straight just like sleeping beauty See, she truly feels like she belong in 2 worlds And that she can't relate to other girls Her father was rich and white still livin' with his wife But he forced himself on her mother late one night They call it rape that's right and now she take flight Through life with hate and spite inside her mind That keep her up to the break of light a lot of times (I gotta find myself) (3X) She had to remind herself They called her Safronia the unwanted seed Blood still blue in her vein and still red when she bleeds (Don't, don't, don't hurt me again) (8X) [Talib Kweli] (+ Background Vocals) Teenage lovers sit on the stoops up in Harlem Holdin' hands under the Apollo marquis dreamin of stardom Since they was born the streets is watchin' and schemin' And now it got them generations facin' deseases That don't kill you they just got problems and complications that get you first Yo, it's getting worse, when children hide the fact that they pregnant Cuz they scared of giving birth How will I feed this baby? How will I survive, how will this baby shine? Daddy dead from crack in '85, mommy dead from AIDS in '89 At 14 the baby hit the same streets they became her master The children of the enslaved, they grow a little faster They bodies become adult While they keepin' the thoughts of a child her arrival Into womanhood was heemed up by her survival Now she 25, barely grown out her own Doin' whatever it takes strippin', workin' out on the block Up on the phone, talkin' about (my skin is tan like the front of your hand) (And my hair...) (Well my hair's alright whatever way I want to fix it, it's alright it's fine) (But my hips, these sweet hips of mine invite you daddy) (And when I fix my lips my mouth is like wine) (Take a sip don't be shy, tonight I wanna be your lady) (I ain't too good for your Mercedes, but first you got to pay me) (You better quit with all the question, sugar who's little girl am I) (Why I'm yours if you got enough money to buy) (You better stop with the compliments we running out of time,) (You wanna talk whatever we could do that it's your dime) (From Harlem's from where I came, don't worry about my name,) (Up on one-two-five they call me sweet thang) Scratches + Woman singing in the background [Talib Kweli] (+ Background Vocals) A daughter come up in Georgia, ripe and ready to plant seeds, Left the plantation when she saw a sign even thought she can't read It came from God and when life get hard she always speak to him, She'd rather kill her babies than let the master get to 'em, She on the run up north to get across that Mason-Dixon In church she learned how to be patient and keep wishin', The promise of eternal life after death for those that God bless She swears the next baby she'll have will breathe a free breath and get milk from a free breast, And love beeing alive, otherwise they'll have to give up being themselves to survive, Being maids, cleaning ladies, maybe teachers or college graduates, nurses, housewives, prostitutes, and drug addicts Some will grow to be old women, some will die before they born, They'll be mothers, and lovers who inspire and make songs, (But me, my skin is brown and my manner is tough,) (Like the love I give my babies when the rainbow's enuff,) (I'll kill the first muthafucka that mess with me, I never bluff) (I ain't got time to lie, my life has been much too rough,) (Still running with barefeet, I ain't got nothin' but my soul,) (Freedom is the ultimate goal, life and death is small on the whole, in many ways) (I'm awfully bitter these days 'cuz the only parents God gave me, they were slaves,) (And it crippled me, I got the destiny of a casualty,) (But I live through my babies and I change my reality) (Maybe one day I'll ride back to Georgia on a train,) (Folks 'round there call me Peaches, I guess that's my name.) and ya 50cent is garbage >.< | ||
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
Who? Mike Jones :D | ||
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1INK
United States630 Posts
On September 16 2005 05:48 LostDevil wrote: that iced earth song was one of the more pathetic things i ever wasting my time reading because of the sheer fact it has probably caused more kids to commit suicide than all of rap music has caused people to shoot each other. some people like music that will get them a little pumped up from time to time, some of those people choose rap like myself. lawl. the sheer fact is that anyone who commits suicide because they heard a song is a god damn retard, just the same as if someone did something extreme because of any song. dumbasses. what makes you think songs have this sort of effect on people? there's nothing mysterious at work here, the kids are just morons. lol, for getting "pumped up", i don't see how you have come to the conclusion to listen to rap music. explain? | ||
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shimmy
Poland997 Posts
...and he can catch bullets with his teeth! | ||
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RelaxGuy
United States110 Posts
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ZorAptoR
Switzerland926 Posts
On September 15 2005 23:03 baal wrote: Well if poetry to you write with words that sound alike well, it is. If you consider poetry as art then its not. right, real poetry does not need any musical-additions, it stands for itself... that's why lyrics are called lyrics and poetry is called poetry... | ||
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chrusher97
Canada811 Posts
On September 16 2005 07:13 OhThatDang wrote: although 50 is garbage the hood and gangstas still bump his music anyways.. Who? Mike Jones :D WHO? 281-330-8004 hit mike jones up on the low. But anyway 50 cent is awesome stop hating okthx | ||
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(AnGeLs)
385 Posts
On September 16 2005 07:13 OhThatDang wrote: although 50 is garbage the hood and gangstas still bump his music anyways.. Who? Mike Jones :D Because, 50 is now the image of success. He constantly sings about how good his life is now. Blacks, and Whites envy him and want to be him. Maybe, just maybe it will encourage alot of them to try harder in whatever they do, school, music writing and etc in hopes it leads them to that success(very unlikely, but hey). And, Mike Jones is sooo bad, every song of his he mentions his name atleast 15 times. Everyone I know can't stand listening to more than one of his songs a day tops! | ||
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IcedEarth
United States3661 Posts
On September 16 2005 05:48 LostDevil wrote: haha someones jealous that he runs shit right now and ure bands dont get nearly much as publicity or make nearly as much money anymore. get over it this is an immature thread. no hes not the greateset rapper but he is a great business man, that is undeniable. and don't tell me he doesnt come up with any ideas and its just his marketing team or some bullshit. that iced earth song was one of the more pathetic things i ever wasting my time reading because of the sheer fact it has probably caused more kids to commit suicide than all of rap music has caused people to shoot each other. some people like music that will get them a little pumped up from time to time, some of those people choose rap like myself. On September 16 2005 05:48 LostDevil wrote: haha someones jealous that he runs shit right now and ure bands dont get nearly much as publicity or make nearly as much money anymore. get over it this is an immature thread. no hes not the greateset rapper but he is a great business man, that is undeniable. and don't tell me he doesnt come up with any ideas and its just his marketing team or some bullshit. that iced earth song was one of the more pathetic things i ever wasting my time reading because of the sheer fact it has probably caused more kids to commit suicide than all of rap music has caused people to shoot each other. some people like music that will get them a little pumped up from time to time, some of those people choose rap like myself. You both desperately need help. First off, it is impossible to feel jealousy over anything 50 cent hsa "accomplished". Secondly, Iced Earth song lyrics haven't caused suicide, but rap music has caused shootings. I understand that you're biased, but no need to show it with that sort of ignorance. | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
How ever you diss rappers/rap music it will sell 5 times more records than any rock album you can think of.. Flaming the whole genre based on one particular rapper's linguistic ability is retarded. At least they're true to themselves.. they live the lyrics,--> gansta lifestyle unlike metal heads. Why would you even expect English proficiency from guys who spent most of their lives in the ghetto without proper education? Hiphop is more of the beats,flow, rhythm and the rhyming skills not so much of linguistic perfection. who with the right mind listens to hiphop expecting a well written poetry? | ||
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