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On February 03 2012 05:52 wishbones wrote:
who else got the urge and desire to sit with this person and hear them speak, just to to enjoy the experience. Like what would they say, how would they sound, what are they thinking, not why did they do it, murder is murder, reasons are only defined by what a person already knows, so we can find the answer in the end will be the same. but here is a 12 year old girl and you just want to figure out how is it possible and you have to ask this person so many questions to get that answer for yourself. haha rambling. the story fascinates and scares me simultaneously.
You sound like a fanboy :/ scary...
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On February 03 2012 05:52 wishbones wrote:
who else got the urge and desire to sit with this person and hear them speak, just to to enjoy the experience. Like what would they say, how would they sound, what are they thinking, not why did they do it, murder is murder, reasons are only defined by what a person already knows, so we can find the answer in the end will be the same. but here is a 12 year old girl and you just want to figure out how is it possible and you have to ask this person so many questions to get that answer for yourself. haha rambling. the story fascinates and scares me simultaneously.
She's crazy. There's nothing fascinating here. Crazy people are incoherent, unreasonble and boring. There's no "deeper" answer or meaning to her actions, she's just a crazy person who does crazy things.
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sentance her to death, if shes this fucked up at that age, there is no chance of her becomeing anything good in the future, and even if there was, she doesnt deserve it
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On February 03 2012 05:53 Waterflow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 05:52 wishbones wrote:
who else got the urge and desire to sit with this person and hear them speak, just to to enjoy the experience. Like what would they say, how would they sound, what are they thinking, not why did they do it, murder is murder, reasons are only defined by what a person already knows, so we can find the answer in the end will be the same. but here is a 12 year old girl and you just want to figure out how is it possible and you have to ask this person so many questions to get that answer for yourself. haha rambling. the story fascinates and scares me simultaneously. You sound like a fanboy :/ scary...
one and only baby!
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On February 03 2012 05:56 Kojak21 wrote:
sentance her to death, if shes this fucked up at that age, there is no chance of her becomeing anything good in the future, and even if there was, she doesnt deserve it
Or locked up forever. Releasing a person like that is insanity in itself.
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On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..
i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..
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I'm not sure who is more fucked up.
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This kinda reminds me of the Glass Menagerie.
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wow, she has some serious problems. I noticed that the teachers mentioned that she was polite and helpful and then she started becoming disruptive and attention-seeking. I wonder what caused the change...
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Some people are just born broken. I wonder if their would have been way to prevent her before her actions?
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People who develop mental disorders of any type are always a result of a combination of their genetic make up and resulting brain physiology and their up bringing. Its entirely possible with the right environment this girl could have become a normal person but due to the environment she was brought up in didn't.
Depending upon the person it might not have even required trauma, such as physical abuse, to trigger the development of a mental disorder but potentially a continuous sort of mental and emotional pressure in conjunction with the right, or i guess wrong, brain make up. Reading about her up bringing though is like the stereotypical environment for the development of mental disorders. Her parents were divorced, i assume, her stepfather was a soldier and they moved at a young age and she was put into foster care for a bit, she killed small animals, and one day at school her whole behavior changed into attention seeking oriented. These together indicate something bad was going on around her for a while ( unstable home life) and then there was some event or series of events that most likely pushed her over the edge and unfortunately she has become a sociopath now. So from an ideal perspective no, no one is born a killer but some are born into the world into a situation in which it is almost inevitable for them to become one.
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On February 03 2012 05:40 Mental Union wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 05:35 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
I can't help but be a bit impressed here. This bitch managed to do things no kid should be able to manage. Thank god she's gonna spend the rest of her life in prison before she gets older and decides to blow up a nuclear reactor.
I swear, that girl is a killing prodigy. It must be simple being you, you have an easy life. I recall when I was just 5 years of age (My IQ was probably similar to yours, back then) I had some much joy in being ignorant. Enjoy your stupidity while it lasts, How this girl managed to perform her depraved acts, is not interesting, much more, how you manage to dress yourself every morning, that, is interesting.
How is this not impressive? Whenever a person does something that almost no one else has done, it is quite impressive. I sincerely hope you are just trolling. That is the only explanation I can come to as to why you would put so much effort into trying to appear intelligent in a post, and insulting another persons intelligence, while that persons managed to actually make a post with no spelling or miscapitalization errors, much unlike your own.
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Perfect storm of nature and nurture. Someone can't entirely be born a killer, but it definitely gets them part of the way there.
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So, what happened to her?
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Messed up and really sad. It's a good thing she is only one person and not the leader of a nation, where she could amplify her power
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Reading the notes in her diary (posted in the article) I'm also surprised she seemed quite intelligent, at least she must have read a lot of literature to use some of the language she did at such a young age.
And then later on for the detective to say she seemed to be '[absent] of emotion and reason.", really weird and interesting I guess
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If that girl is truly a "born killer" and has proven herself a cold evil human being then she should be locked away dungeon style to rot underground with no windows only to be fed once a day with no human contact.
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I guess there could be myriad other reasons for developing this behavior relating to her environment but there have been plenty of cases like this before and this fits the bill for an adolescent issue known as Conduct Disorder, an Antiscocial Personality Disorder precursor. Sadistic tendencies for people who have this disorder are common and killing someone doesn't carry the same weight as it would for a mentally healthy human. Given the fact that she was in/reaching a period of physical and psychological development it would make sense that an issue could arise at her age. While it's mostly a male disorder (hence why most psycho/sociopaths are men) and the full blown ASPD couldn't be identified as such by the DSM-IV until age 18, it does show up on occasion in females. Clearly her empathy and differentiation between right and wrong were skewed. Low brain activity in the frontal lobe is another indicator of such a disorder. Sadly, one type of mental illness is often accompanied by one or more other disorders. As such, comorbidity with a form of Schizophrenia would make sense given her allusion to Satanic influence.
It's really sad to see people who have these types of problems. I despise the acts they commit but I pity anyone who lives with this. They're missing out on one of the most important parts of being human, the ability to form healthy relationships. Hopefully advances in human cognition and pathological neuroscience can helps people with these diseases in the future.
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I'm still with the nurture over nature group, something was clearly fucked up behind the scenes with the parents.
Also the whole 12 is still a child thing, not long ago that was considered a women grown and flowered considered ready to marry and reproduce.
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this reminds me of those yanderes from anime haha
Anyways, this is disturbing, but I don't think you can be "born" a killer. Your personality can be indirectly influenced by your genes, BUT ultimately the way your brain develops depends largely on your environment.
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On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..
i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..
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I would have been cool with this comment if the GIRL WASNT TWELVE WTF.
sooo fucked up, I hope I never meet a 12 year old like this.
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