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IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
February 02 2012 21:27 GMT
#101
It is easy to think that she would have a mental disorder, but to me personally this looks like a demonic possession.
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
February 02 2012 21:28 GMT
#102
On February 03 2012 06:27 IronManSC wrote:
It is easy to think that she would have a mental disorder, but to me personally this looks like a demonic possession.

Obviously we need court-appointed exorcists to take care of this
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NSGrendel
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom235 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 21:30:17
February 02 2012 21:29 GMT
#103
I think I just heard Team Liquid change into a lower intellectual gear.

(This thread, not the poster above me, just in case some moderator happens to have an erection this evening).
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 21:32:44
February 02 2012 21:29 GMT
#104
On February 03 2012 06:20 thOr6136 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 05:52 wishbones wrote:
who else got the urge and desire to sit with this person and hear them speak, just to to enjoy the experience. Like what would they say, how would they sound, what are they thinking, not why did they do it, murder is murder, reasons are only defined by what a person already knows, so we can find the answer in the end will be the same. but here is a 12 year old girl and you just want to figure out how is it possible and you have to ask this person so many questions to get that answer for yourself. haha rambling. the story fascinates and scares me simultaneously.


I feel exactly the same way as you do. Very interesting. I don't believe she was born to kill. Something in her early days triggered this kind of behaviour. It's like in theory of chaos, the butterfly effect. That's how i think about it.


You guys should watch the movie called "The Appropriate Adult" its a really cool story based in truth. Its about a completely normal English mother who has to sit in on the confessions of a serial killer and eventually even befriends him.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
February 02 2012 21:33 GMT
#105
I wonder if she has a brain tumor in the frontal lobe, there have been cases of antisocial behavior cause of such.
Else she'd be a pretty extreme case of "bad luck", since there are no reports about bad childhood experiences.
atwar
Profile Joined May 2011
57 Posts
February 02 2012 21:34 GMT
#106
On February 03 2012 06:19 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:17 Olinimm wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:16 StyLeD wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:12 darkscream wrote:
On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..

i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..

User was temp banned for this post.


I would have been cool with this comment if the GIRL WASNT TWELVE WTF.

sooo fucked up, I hope I never meet a 12 year old like this.


LOL I was going to say "wow that's excessive for voicing an opinion" but then I too realized that she's 12.

she was 12 in 1992.



Oh well...then....


wow, that ban was excessive for voicing an opinion o_O should've been warned for using crude language.


what do you except moderators are fuking nazis


User was warned for this post
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 02 2012 21:35 GMT
#107
On February 03 2012 06:34 atwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:19 StyLeD wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:17 Olinimm wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:16 StyLeD wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:12 darkscream wrote:
On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..

i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..

User was temp banned for this post.


I would have been cool with this comment if the GIRL WASNT TWELVE WTF.

sooo fucked up, I hope I never meet a 12 year old like this.


LOL I was going to say "wow that's excessive for voicing an opinion" but then I too realized that she's 12.

she was 12 in 1992.



Oh well...then....


wow, that ban was excessive for voicing an opinion o_O should've been warned for using crude language.


what do you except moderators are fuking nazis

Hey don't be insulting nazis like that
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 21:36:41
February 02 2012 21:35 GMT
#108
On February 03 2012 06:21 CecilSunkure wrote:
She became attention seeking, and she said in her writing she murdered that lady to overcome her "beauty". This girl sounds like she just has jealousy and social attention issues due to how she was brought up. I just don't think the whole story of how she was raised is being told.

this is a lot like what i was thinking, though she could have meant the "inherent beauty of life" rather than just physical beauty...but then again i doubt a 12 year old would think in that manner...either that or she just had no good words to use to describe what she was overcoming

odd situation overall, and really if you have a penchant for murder just join a country's military who is in war

edit:

On February 03 2012 06:35 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:34 atwar wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:19 StyLeD wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:17 Olinimm wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:16 StyLeD wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:12 darkscream wrote:
On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..

i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..

User was temp banned for this post.


I would have been cool with this comment if the GIRL WASNT TWELVE WTF.

sooo fucked up, I hope I never meet a 12 year old like this.


LOL I was going to say "wow that's excessive for voicing an opinion" but then I too realized that she's 12.

she was 12 in 1992.



Oh well...then....


wow, that ban was excessive for voicing an opinion o_O should've been warned for using crude language.


what do you except moderators are fuking nazis

Hey don't be insulting nazis like that

please dont stop posting you are my new MDT til MDT comes back
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
February 02 2012 21:36 GMT
#109
On February 03 2012 06:34 atwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:19 StyLeD wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:17 Olinimm wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:16 StyLeD wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:12 darkscream wrote:
On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..

i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..

User was temp banned for this post.


I would have been cool with this comment if the GIRL WASNT TWELVE WTF.

sooo fucked up, I hope I never meet a 12 year old like this.


LOL I was going to say "wow that's excessive for voicing an opinion" but then I too realized that she's 12.

she was 12 in 1992.



Oh well...then....


wow, that ban was excessive for voicing an opinion o_O should've been warned for using crude language.


what do you except moderators are fuking nazis

I know, right. Expecting posters to have some level of tact is so ridiculous.

OT: The girl clearly has some issues. Millions of kids around the world grow up with shitty upbringing and don't turn out like that.
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 21:38:29
February 02 2012 21:38 GMT
#110
"Police interviewed them but they provided alibis for each other, and were eliminated from the inquiry"

Really? They provided alibis for each other and that's it? Lies, Lies I say!
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zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
February 02 2012 21:38 GMT
#111
Some people are just born like this.

Some people are only human on the outside.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
February 02 2012 21:40 GMT
#112
On February 03 2012 06:19 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:17 Olinimm wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:16 StyLeD wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:12 darkscream wrote:
On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..

i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..

User was temp banned for this post.


I would have been cool with this comment if the GIRL WASNT TWELVE WTF.

sooo fucked up, I hope I never meet a 12 year old like this.


LOL I was going to say "wow that's excessive for voicing an opinion" but then I too realized that she's 12.

she was 12 in 1992.



Oh well...then....


wow, that ban was excessive for voicing an opinion o_O should've been warned for using crude language.

That particular user has quite a long moderation history.
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FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
February 02 2012 21:42 GMT
#113
Put it this way: It's possible to be born with / develop conditions that make the act of killing more possible on a moral ground. For example psychopaths, while difficult to characterize uniquely, definitely share in common a lack in the ability to empathize with others. Because of this lack of empathy expressed by psychopaths, it's not very shocking that they can't rationalize, on moral grounds, why in the event of a murder, they feel no sincere remorse or guilt.

Whether or not this girl is a psychopath, or, has something similar going on in her brain, is totally a mystery to me -- just to be clear that I'm not claiming with certainty that she's definitely a psychopath. It's just one explanation for how one might be born with a condition that makes killing others more rational (internal logic of course, but you can see how finding reasons to kill people would be quite easy if you simply weren't born with the ability to empathize, or feel others' pain)
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 21:45:50
February 02 2012 21:43 GMT
#114
On February 03 2012 06:29 Wrongspeedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:20 thOr6136 wrote:
On February 03 2012 05:52 wishbones wrote:
who else got the urge and desire to sit with this person and hear them speak, just to to enjoy the experience. Like what would they say, how would they sound, what are they thinking, not why did they do it, murder is murder, reasons are only defined by what a person already knows, so we can find the answer in the end will be the same. but here is a 12 year old girl and you just want to figure out how is it possible and you have to ask this person so many questions to get that answer for yourself. haha rambling. the story fascinates and scares me simultaneously.


I feel exactly the same way as you do. Very interesting. I don't believe she was born to kill. Something in her early days triggered this kind of behaviour. It's like in theory of chaos, the butterfly effect. That's how i think about it.


You guys should watch the movie called "The Appropriate Adult" its a really cool story based in truth. Its about a completely normal English mother who has to sit in on the confessions of a serial killer and eventually even befriends him.


I will check it out ty! :> .

On February 03 2012 06:36 Myles wrote:
[OT: The girl clearly has some issues. Millions of kids around the world grow up with shitty upbringing and don't turn out like that.


It's called the butterfly effect "In chaos theory, the butterfly effect is the sensitive dependence on initial conditions; where a small change at one place in a nonlinear system can result in large differences to a later state." Read more about it if you find it interesting .
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10333 Posts
February 02 2012 21:46 GMT
#115
On February 03 2012 06:17 Ryuu314 wrote:
psychopath all the way -.-;

i'd be very surprised if there was no brain damage or underdevelopment of the brain in this girl.
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:11 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
this reminds me of those yanderes from anime haha

Anyways, this is disturbing, but I don't think you can be "born" a killer. Your personality can be indirectly influenced by your genes, BUT ultimately the way your brain develops depends largely on your environment.

That's not completely true. It has been shown that serial killers and most especially psychopaths often have an underdeveloped brain such that they experience emotions at a different level or don't even experience emotions such as empathy at all. If someone grows up with a defunct brain such that they can't experience any restraining emotions such as empathy, sadness, or they can't grasp the notion that their actions have consequences then they will have a predisposition to become a killer.


Oh, good point then. I didn't think of extremes where the brain is considered to have a disorder or a "problem" or such =/

In that case, I don't think you can be born a killer, maybe more general (and im winging a description) like "born as a person who thinks selfishly and can't feel compassion for others due to the brain thinking illogically
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Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 02 2012 21:51 GMT
#116
There is a great BBC documentary on psychopaths, and how it is indeed genetic. Being a pyschopath does not, however, mean you are a psychopathic killer. I really can't remember the name of it, but basically there are lots of them and they tend to be very successful in business. I don't know if this girl could be classed as a psychopath, not my area.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 02 2012 21:51 GMT
#117
Is that really illogically tho? Selfism is pretty natural and lack of compassion isn't that much of a reach
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
February 02 2012 21:54 GMT
#118
That was pretty creepy. Her talking about the killings kind of reminded me of Victor Zsasz from Batman and that guy scares the hell out of me.
RealQ
Profile Joined March 2011
1120 Posts
February 02 2012 21:55 GMT
#119
On February 03 2012 06:27 IronManSC wrote:
It is easy to think that she would have a mental disorder, but to me personally this looks like a demonic possession.



What.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
February 02 2012 21:55 GMT
#120
On February 03 2012 06:46 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:17 Ryuu314 wrote:
psychopath all the way -.-;

i'd be very surprised if there was no brain damage or underdevelopment of the brain in this girl.
On February 03 2012 06:11 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
this reminds me of those yanderes from anime haha

Anyways, this is disturbing, but I don't think you can be "born" a killer. Your personality can be indirectly influenced by your genes, BUT ultimately the way your brain develops depends largely on your environment.

That's not completely true. It has been shown that serial killers and most especially psychopaths often have an underdeveloped brain such that they experience emotions at a different level or don't even experience emotions such as empathy at all. If someone grows up with a defunct brain such that they can't experience any restraining emotions such as empathy, sadness, or they can't grasp the notion that their actions have consequences then they will have a predisposition to become a killer.


Oh, good point then. I didn't think of extremes where the brain is considered to have a disorder or a "problem" or such =/

In that case, I don't think you can be born a killer, maybe more general (and im winging a description) like "born as a person who thinks selfishly and can't feel compassion for others due to the brain thinking illogically


Yep that's pretty much exactly it I think. Basically, it's silly to say someone can be born with the predisposition to commit a particular act, such as a murder (let's assume religious stuff is excluded from this statement). What one can say, though, is that one can be born with, or develop, a mental deficiency that affects complex/poorly understood emotional mechanisms at the brain such that the emotional checks (i.e. empathy) in place that normally prevent irrational actions such as cold-blooded murder simply aren't working properly. So one of these individuals might live a totally normal life on the outside, while another might be presented with a situation that happens to cause the individual to commit a murder due to the compromised emotional and mental stability elicited by the deficiency.
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