Girl of 12 "born a killer" - Page 7
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Fealthas
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On February 03 2012 06:43 thOr6136 wrote: It's called the butterfly effect "In chaos theory, the butterfly effect is the sensitive dependence on initial conditions; where a small change at one place in a nonlinear system can result in large differences to a later state." Read more about it if you find it interesting ![]() I'm not sure why you are associating this with the butterfly effect. Let's say the bus is delayed 5 minutes, that might mean someone gets run over by the bus - however if you apply this to Sharon Carr's situation, I don't see how the fact that her mother gets home late from work one day or that the bathroom smells funny is gonna trigger something in her brain making her a ruthless killing machine. To trigger something like this I would like to think something HUGE has to happen in her life OR that she has some very distinct brain malfunctions. I am very interested in seeing how you want to apply the butterfly effect to this case though. Edit: Fail quote. | ||
AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
All the same, yes, fucked up child. There really isn't any rationalizing this, this isn't nurture, you'd HAVE to be born like this. | ||
Zvenn3n
Sweden1196 Posts
On February 03 2012 06:57 Drowsy wrote: Would anyone really protest if we just decided to give her a choice between euthenization or being exiled to a deserted island? One problem though: She might (though not likely) escape from the island, and cause havoc again. OT, I think this is highly disturbing, things like these kind of makes me lose faith in humanity. | ||
LayZRR
Germany449 Posts
But it doesnt sound as it comes from a 12 year old mind...very disturbing. | ||
DreamChaser
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On February 03 2012 04:53 Proof. wrote: Pretty old article..but messed up nonetheless. "At school, her teachers initially described her as polite and helpful, but her behaviour deteriorated and she became disruptive and attention-seeking." That word seems key here in my opinion. Probably something psychologically related. I mean, you can have fucked up thoughts at that age, but to take action... I honestly don't believe you're "born" a killer. That seems like the kind of stuff you hear in movies..like Kill Bill. The environment you grow up in and the events you experience at a young age tends to have a great impact on later life. Edit: I mean you COULD be born with a mental illness, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. The descriptions of her early on (polite and helpful???) suggests she developed a mental disorder as she got older (most likely from the parents splitting and the foster home thing). I agree with the attention thing. Divorce children have often problems, though this is the first I heard about criminally-violent behavior. My guess is she talked with other kids about the wrong things(kids can have cruel fantasies), seen the wrong movies or tried out the wrong things(like beheading the neighbor dog) or some combination of these. It´s frightening that this actually happened. I mean, I was a divorce kid too, but I only got into fist fights, which gave me enough trouble already. | ||
ThatGuyDoMo
Australia516 Posts
There is nothing like Psychopathy. ^>^ | ||
Mental Union
United States29 Posts
On February 03 2012 06:59 LayZRR wrote: Those descriptions from her and her quotes sound like words of a older mind...correct me if am wrong. But it doesnt sound as it comes from a 12 year old mind...very disturbing. Knowledge doesn't come from age, age merely presents the possibility to gain knowledge. Full scale IQ, doesn't necessarily peak at any specific age either. If the words we're produced from the mind of a 12 year old, they simply are the words of a 12 year old. | ||
gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On February 03 2012 06:59 LayZRR wrote: Those descriptions from her and her quotes sound like words of a older mind...correct me if am wrong. But it doesnt sound as it comes from a 12 year old mind...very disturbing. Many 12 year olds can probably express themselfs more profound than me and I'm 28. It's more the disturbing nature that's... eh disturbing. | ||
qzlsecret
Mexico126 Posts
if you know what i mean ![]() | ||
red_b
United States1267 Posts
we are but a stone's throw away from them. it's not hard for me to see where this girl developed; a lack of empathy and conscious fostered by the influence of violence/death as an aesthetic. if she had done this to get attention it would not have taken 4 years for them to figure out it was her who stabbed the hair dresser. this is a girl who, sadly, found fulfillment in murder and nothing in her head existed to stop her from doing it. to give you an idea of how extreme she is, recall that Himmler (the nazi), who ordered millions to their deaths, could not stand the site of their murder. he was as close to evil as any other human being, was he not? you dont go from being a normal human being to bathing in blood by the age of 12. children who get pressed into killing or to see a lot of it have life-long psychological damage from it. I wonder if she understands that her victims were afraid. | ||
Mental Union
United States29 Posts
On February 03 2012 07:11 GofOrEver wrote: there are humans that look like humans but arent humans if you know what i mean ![]() There are humans, that look like humans, but act and post like retards. You know who I mean ![]() | ||
aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
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ZessiM
United Kingdom232 Posts
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
On February 03 2012 07:16 aksfjh wrote: This is going to sound incredibly nerdy, but it's relevant. There was a Star Trek Voyager episode where a serial killer had his life saved by a medical procedure. One of the side effects, however, was that parts of his brain were repaired so he could fully comprehend what he had done to his victims. In essence, he now had a conscience. Hm, that in itself might be quite the punishment depending on what awful things you've done. Also, feeling something like severe guilt for the first time must be a terrible experience. | ||
Dakure
United States513 Posts
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
The only difference between this girl and others is that she lacked the inhibitions, empathy, and long-term planning to stop her from doing it. | ||
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