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Gentlebite
Profile Joined May 2010
United States132 Posts
February 02 2012 21:13 GMT
#81
On February 03 2012 05:05 diehilde wrote:
reminds me an awful lot of "Monster" - greatest anime series ive ever seen.


Reminds me more of the movie Ichi the killer
Venus.exe
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States285 Posts
February 02 2012 21:13 GMT
#82
Oh, very interesting article. This certainly does launch many questions of human morality and our intentions. Are we truly all good at the core of it all? Does one require "reasoning" to have a mindset of an emotionally absent psychopath (whether if that reason was psychological or purely genetic) ?
I mean, if this was a child who grew up under a more stable family, I'd scratch my head a little bit more but since she's been through maternal detachment (even though it was brief) at an early stage in her life, I would kind of like blame it on that. Maybe she's a truly sensitive being and positioned herself in a place in her mind where she is the darkest power ("the devil") and detached herself from all mother-like emotions (love, care, sympathy, etc.) as a means of defense. Nevertheless, we've all wandered into dark thoughts at an young age before, but most of us usually do not come with a pair of ballsacks that actually acts upon reason-less murders. I don't think killers are just "born." I do, however, believe we all have different ways of reasoning with our consciousness and few may reason in ways the majority cannot even begin to imagine.
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Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
February 02 2012 21:14 GMT
#83
On February 03 2012 06:09 BlindSC2 wrote:
Reading the notes in her diary (posted in the article) I'm also surprised she seemed quite intelligent, at least she must have read a lot of literature to use some of the language she did at such a young age.

And then later on for the detective to say she seemed to be '[absent] of emotion and reason.", really weird and interesting I guess


Its not that weird "absent of emotion or reason". Psychopath.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
February 02 2012 21:16 GMT
#84
On February 03 2012 06:12 darkscream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..

i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..

User was temp banned for this post.


I would have been cool with this comment if the GIRL WASNT TWELVE WTF.

sooo fucked up, I hope I never meet a 12 year old like this.


LOL I was going to say "wow that's excessive for voicing an opinion" but then I too realized that she's 12.
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
February 02 2012 21:16 GMT
#85
On February 03 2012 06:14 Wrongspeedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:09 BlindSC2 wrote:
Reading the notes in her diary (posted in the article) I'm also surprised she seemed quite intelligent, at least she must have read a lot of literature to use some of the language she did at such a young age.

And then later on for the detective to say she seemed to be '[absent] of emotion and reason.", really weird and interesting I guess


Its not that weird "absent of emotion or reason". Psychopath.

Yep.

By the way, if anyone in this thread hasn't read "Columbine" then they should. Really hardcore examination of a teenage psycho.
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Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
February 02 2012 21:16 GMT
#86

On February 03 2012 06:12 darkscream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..

i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..

User was temp banned for this post.


I would have been cool with this comment if the GIRL WASNT TWELVE WTF.

sooo fucked up, I hope I never meet a 12 year old like this.

I hope i never meet anyone like that!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 02 2012 21:17 GMT
#87
psychopath all the way -.-;

i'd be very surprised if there was no brain damage or underdevelopment of the brain in this girl.
On February 03 2012 06:11 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
this reminds me of those yanderes from anime haha

Anyways, this is disturbing, but I don't think you can be "born" a killer. Your personality can be indirectly influenced by your genes, BUT ultimately the way your brain develops depends largely on your environment.

That's not completely true. It has been shown that serial killers and most especially psychopaths often have an underdeveloped brain such that they experience emotions at a different level or don't even experience emotions such as empathy at all. If someone grows up with a defunct brain such that they can't experience any restraining emotions such as empathy, sadness, or they can't grasp the notion that their actions have consequences then they will have a predisposition to become a killer.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
February 02 2012 21:17 GMT
#88
On February 03 2012 06:16 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:12 darkscream wrote:
On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..

i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..

User was temp banned for this post.


I would have been cool with this comment if the GIRL WASNT TWELVE WTF.

sooo fucked up, I hope I never meet a 12 year old like this.


LOL I was going to say "wow that's excessive for voicing an opinion" but then I too realized that she's 12.

she was 12 in 1992.
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
February 02 2012 21:18 GMT
#89
On February 03 2012 06:11 NotSorry wrote:
I'm still with the nurture over nature group, something was clearly fucked up behind the scenes with the parents.

Also the whole 12 is still a child thing, not long ago that was considered a women grown and flowered considered ready to marry and reproduce.

Not that long ago? isnt stuff like that going on in Mormonism today?
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 02 2012 21:18 GMT
#90
she seems to be the person a lot of 12 yr olds pretend to be
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
CounterOrder
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada457 Posts
February 02 2012 21:18 GMT
#91
She was obviously influenced by the bible. Talking about seeing the devil at only 12 y/o?
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
February 02 2012 21:19 GMT
#92
On February 03 2012 06:17 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:16 StyLeD wrote:
On February 03 2012 06:12 darkscream wrote:
On February 03 2012 04:54 Zinnwaldite wrote:
these things are so interesting,, would be great to have a chat with her..

i kinda wanna fuck her for some reason..

User was temp banned for this post.


I would have been cool with this comment if the GIRL WASNT TWELVE WTF.

sooo fucked up, I hope I never meet a 12 year old like this.


LOL I was going to say "wow that's excessive for voicing an opinion" but then I too realized that she's 12.

she was 12 in 1992.



Oh well...then....


wow, that ban was excessive for voicing an opinion o_O should've been warned for using crude language.
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 02 2012 21:20 GMT
#93
On February 03 2012 06:18 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:11 NotSorry wrote:
I'm still with the nurture over nature group, something was clearly fucked up behind the scenes with the parents.

Also the whole 12 is still a child thing, not long ago that was considered a women grown and flowered considered ready to marry and reproduce.

Not that long ago? isnt stuff like that going on in Mormonism today?


I meant widely accept as normal, yes there is still religions and countries that it's the normal or younger, but we generally don't count those among the "civilized" world
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
February 02 2012 21:20 GMT
#94
On February 03 2012 05:52 wishbones wrote:
who else got the urge and desire to sit with this person and hear them speak, just to to enjoy the experience. Like what would they say, how would they sound, what are they thinking, not why did they do it, murder is murder, reasons are only defined by what a person already knows, so we can find the answer in the end will be the same. but here is a 12 year old girl and you just want to figure out how is it possible and you have to ask this person so many questions to get that answer for yourself. haha rambling. the story fascinates and scares me simultaneously.


I feel exactly the same way as you do. Very interesting. I don't believe she was born to kill. Something in her early days triggered this kind of behaviour. It's like in theory of chaos, the butterfly effect. That's how i think about it.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
February 02 2012 21:21 GMT
#95
She became attention seeking, and she said in her writing she murdered that lady to overcome her "beauty". This girl sounds like she just has jealousy and social attention issues due to how she was brought up. I just don't think the whole story of how she was raised is being told.
johax
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden165 Posts
February 02 2012 21:21 GMT
#96
When i clicked the topic I was hoping her name was Mathilda.
Mental Union
Profile Joined September 2011
United States29 Posts
February 02 2012 21:22 GMT
#97
On February 03 2012 06:04 Bleaurgh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 05:40 Mental Union wrote:
On February 03 2012 05:35 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
I can't help but be a bit impressed here. This bitch managed to do things no kid should be able to manage. Thank god she's gonna spend the rest of her life in prison before she gets older and decides to blow up a nuclear reactor.
I swear, that girl is a killing prodigy.



It must be simple being you, you have an easy life. I recall when I was just 5 years of age (My IQ was probably similar to yours, back then) I had some much joy in being ignorant. Enjoy your stupidity while it lasts, How this girl managed to perform her depraved acts, is not interesting, much more, how you manage to dress yourself every morning, that, is interesting.


How is this not impressive? Whenever a person does something that almost no one else has done, it is quite impressive. I sincerely hope you are just trolling. That is the only explanation I can come to as to why you would put so much effort into trying to appear intelligent in a post, and insulting another persons intelligence, while that persons managed to actually make a post with no spelling or miscapitalization errors, much unlike your own.



If what you said wasn't a massive contradiction, I might take the same effort with this post
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
February 02 2012 21:22 GMT
#98
As with most psychological disorders, there is probably some sort of chemical imbalance or other biological imperfection that she was born with, and environmental factors that "turned it on". Some people are more predisposed than others. A lot of people go through way worse than her and turn out fine, so it's obviously a part biological.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
February 02 2012 21:23 GMT
#99
These questions of whether the person is deeply disturbed or the person is evil confuse me. What does it mean to actually be evil as opposed to deeply disturbed? If you're killing someone because you're crazy as opposed to killing someone because you're evil, what is the difference? What separates the two? I don't see why being "evil" is not considered being crazy. I guess I just can't comprehend what it would mean to be a sane and rational person who kills simply because he/she is evil. I don't understand what "evil" is in this context? Just an imaginary idea that we arbitrarily came up with that represents nothing?

Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
February 02 2012 21:25 GMT
#100
Only if the TV series were real. Dexter Morgan would have dealt with her.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
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