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Vatican City State733 Posts
Honestly these people were just stupid. Ever since 9-11 our airport security has been extremely touchy about such things. If you are so lacking in intelligence as to be posting something like that right before travelling or actually saying it in the airport.....
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On January 31 2012 19:27 zdfgucker wrote:I enjoyed the article, especially this part: Show nested quote +The words deemed as being sensitive by the DHS include:
Illegal immigrant
Outbreak
Drill
Strain
Virus
Recovery
Deaths
Collapse
Human to animal
Trojan
Human to animal? Really?
Holy shit thats funny XD
omg im on the floor!!!!
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On February 01 2012 00:33 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 00:31 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:28 cz wrote:On February 01 2012 00:26 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:25 cz wrote:On February 01 2012 00:24 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 01 2012 00:04 ticklishmusic wrote:This guy in the comments section puts it perfectly: If someone is stupid enough to tweet this without recognizing the consequences, I pretty much expect them to be checked out. It's like walking over to a cop and telling him you're going to commit a serious crime later on in the day. You *can* do it, even if you're joking or using play-on words or a figure of speech. Because hey, you're exercising your right to freedom of speech! And then he's going to exercise his right to detain and investigate your ass, because now you've given him reasonable suspicion, and legal authorities (*especially* when it comes to terrorism and stopping another 9/11 scare) are going to put the safety of the country before your own comfort- especially when you're the one who went out of your way to be a bonehead and be tactless in your conversational rhetoric. Better safe than sorry. That being said, I don't really like the fact that they had to share cells with drug addicts (*actual* convicted felons) and ended up being sent home anyway in the end.
Thank you  No it is not like walking to an officer, nor an offical and telling him/them they would commit some serious crime. sry to ruin your scenario. Do you guys love to make up such scenarios? I know 9/11 was and is still a big shock (myself included), no doubt, but sometimes I have the feeling the border to paranoid behaviour is crossed and everyone will find excuses for some just stupid behaviour by making up horror scenarios. Questioning these guys at the airport? Ok, I can live with that, though even with common sence you may have seen no need to. What I think are the prolly most retarded and expecially also hilarious parts, are the questions they asked and the decision to send em home afterwards :D I mean, asking them if one would be the lookout when they are digging up marylin, or looking for spades in the suitcase? wtf? That's the point were I am on the floor rolling around holding my stomach cause it hurts xD Says the guy from a country that restricts speech about certain issues. Enlighten me? about which issues arent you allowed to talk? :D Cant wait to get the comedy started :D Holocaust denial and promoting certain Nazi things. You can talk about holocaust denial sure. But you get punished for actually saying the holocaust didnt happen, as it is disrespectful for those human beings died in it, thats a big difference =) Promote certain nazi things? whats that? what would you want to promote? You are free to speak about the time 1933-45 as long as you keep it to the facts. How the hell did they even find out about the tweet? Kind of scary if you think about it.. Actually through searching the social media with programs for special keywords Exactly, Germany restricts free speech on certain issues. Because people died. Just like how you shouldn't make twitter jokes bout destroying America then hope to get through customs. Because people died. Germany doesn't even have free speech and you're criticizing America, lol.
ROFL, you just dont get it, do you?
You can speak freely, nobody will deny that, but you will face the punishement for that.
You will be taken to court for denying the holocaust, you also will be taken to court for telling lies about your boss. Maybe you get it now =)
Dunno about australia, but here right of free speech doesnt mean, every idiot can state lies all over the place and think he can hide behind the rights of free speech
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And I thought it was ridiculous when my friend got thrown out of the airport and banned from BMI for saying "no bomb here mate" when going through security.
On February 01 2012 00:40 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
Honestly these people were just stupid. Ever since 9-11 our airport security has been extremely touchy about such things. If you are so lacking in intelligence as to be posting something like that right before travelling or actually saying it in the airport.....
They posted it on their twitter buddy, I had no idea that airport security even checked twitter. I mean what do they expect to see which is actually useful, that some terrorist announcing their plans?
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On February 01 2012 00:33 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 00:31 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:28 cz wrote:On February 01 2012 00:26 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:25 cz wrote:On February 01 2012 00:24 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 01 2012 00:04 ticklishmusic wrote:This guy in the comments section puts it perfectly: If someone is stupid enough to tweet this without recognizing the consequences, I pretty much expect them to be checked out. It's like walking over to a cop and telling him you're going to commit a serious crime later on in the day. You *can* do it, even if you're joking or using play-on words or a figure of speech. Because hey, you're exercising your right to freedom of speech! And then he's going to exercise his right to detain and investigate your ass, because now you've given him reasonable suspicion, and legal authorities (*especially* when it comes to terrorism and stopping another 9/11 scare) are going to put the safety of the country before your own comfort- especially when you're the one who went out of your way to be a bonehead and be tactless in your conversational rhetoric. Better safe than sorry. That being said, I don't really like the fact that they had to share cells with drug addicts (*actual* convicted felons) and ended up being sent home anyway in the end.
Thank you No it is not like walking to an officer, nor an offical and telling him/them they would commit some serious crime. sry to ruin your scenario. Do you guys love to make up such scenarios? I know 9/11 was and is still a big shock (myself included), no doubt, but sometimes I have the feeling the border to paranoid behaviour is crossed and everyone will find excuses for some just stupid behaviour by making up horror scenarios. Questioning these guys at the airport? Ok, I can live with that, though even with common sence you may have seen no need to. What I think are the prolly most retarded and expecially also hilarious parts, are the questions they asked and the decision to send em home afterwards :D I mean, asking them if one would be the lookout when they are digging up marylin, or looking for spades in the suitcase? wtf? That's the point were I am on the floor rolling around holding my stomach cause it hurts xD Says the guy from a country that restricts speech about certain issues. Enlighten me? about which issues arent you allowed to talk? :D Cant wait to get the comedy started :D Holocaust denial and promoting certain Nazi things. You can talk about holocaust denial sure. But you get punished for actually saying the holocaust didnt happen, as it is disrespectful for those human beings died in it, thats a big difference =) Promote certain nazi things? whats that? what would you want to promote? You are free to speak about the time 1933-45 as long as you keep it to the facts. How the hell did they even find out about the tweet? Kind of scary if you think about it.. Actually through searching the social media with programs for special keywords Exactly, Germany restricts free speech on certain issues. Because people died. Just like how you shouldn't make twitter jokes bout destroying America then hope to get through customs. Because people died. Germany doesn't even have free speech and you're criticizing America, lol.
What does the country he comes from have to do with anything? Because of his nationality he is not allowed to criticsize a certain procedure in the US? Wat?
And why the fuck would you drag the holocaust into this discussion?
But for the record, yes, germany has free speech. Restrictions to free speech exist in every country, including the US.
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Vatican City State733 Posts
On February 01 2012 00:36 Euronyme wrote:
You don't see a difference at all between making an inside joke with your friends on a social media,.
You are never making a joke with just your friends on social media. Expect nothing less than everything you say on there being "overheard." Assuming anything else would be foolish and could lead to problems down the road for you
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On February 01 2012 00:43 Eisregen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 00:33 cz wrote:
Exactly, Germany restricts free speech on certain issues. Because people died. Just like how you shouldn't make twitter jokes bout destroying America then hope to get through customs. Because people died.
Germany doesn't even have free speech and you're criticizing America, lol. ROFL, you just dont get it, do you? You can speak freely, nobody will deny that, but you will face the punishement for that. You will be taken to court for denying the holocaust, you also will be taken to court for telling lies about your boss. Maybe you get it now =) Dunno about australia, but here right of free speech doesnt mean, every idiot can state lies all over the place and think he can hide behind the rights of free speech
thats not "speaking freely" tho ;
but i agree with german law in this case - certain restrictions are necessary,as for example
you are not allowed to insult any1 as well (§185,194 StGB).
but thats a difference in system that has nothing to do with the case at hand.
edit2 : fixed :s
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On February 01 2012 00:46 Caryc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 00:43 Eisregen wrote:
Germany doesn't even have free speech and you're criticizing America, lol. ROFL, you just dont get it, do you? You can speak freely, nobody will deny that, but you will face the punishement for that. You will be taken to court for denying the holocaust, you also will be taken to court for telling lies about your boss. Maybe you get it now =)
thats not "speaking freely" tho ;
but i agree with german law in this case ;
you are not allowed to insult any1 as well (§185,194 StGB).
but thats a difference in system that has nothing to do with the case at hand.
edit : wow i fucked up that quote -.-
Sure it has nothing to do with that case, but I gotta educate the foreigners a bit, not that they keep spreading false stuff out of pure non knowledge
EDIT: Quoted your failquote!
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the people who starts these dumb threads are just finding ways to bash americans.
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On February 01 2012 00:43 Eisregen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 00:33 cz wrote:On February 01 2012 00:31 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:28 cz wrote:On February 01 2012 00:26 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:25 cz wrote:On February 01 2012 00:24 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 01 2012 00:04 ticklishmusic wrote:This guy in the comments section puts it perfectly: If someone is stupid enough to tweet this without recognizing the consequences, I pretty much expect them to be checked out. It's like walking over to a cop and telling him you're going to commit a serious crime later on in the day. You *can* do it, even if you're joking or using play-on words or a figure of speech. Because hey, you're exercising your right to freedom of speech! And then he's going to exercise his right to detain and investigate your ass, because now you've given him reasonable suspicion, and legal authorities (*especially* when it comes to terrorism and stopping another 9/11 scare) are going to put the safety of the country before your own comfort- especially when you're the one who went out of your way to be a bonehead and be tactless in your conversational rhetoric. Better safe than sorry. That being said, I don't really like the fact that they had to share cells with drug addicts (*actual* convicted felons) and ended up being sent home anyway in the end.
Thank you No it is not like walking to an officer, nor an offical and telling him/them they would commit some serious crime. sry to ruin your scenario. Do you guys love to make up such scenarios? I know 9/11 was and is still a big shock (myself included), no doubt, but sometimes I have the feeling the border to paranoid behaviour is crossed and everyone will find excuses for some just stupid behaviour by making up horror scenarios. Questioning these guys at the airport? Ok, I can live with that, though even with common sence you may have seen no need to. What I think are the prolly most retarded and expecially also hilarious parts, are the questions they asked and the decision to send em home afterwards :D I mean, asking them if one would be the lookout when they are digging up marylin, or looking for spades in the suitcase? wtf? That's the point were I am on the floor rolling around holding my stomach cause it hurts xD Says the guy from a country that restricts speech about certain issues. Enlighten me? about which issues arent you allowed to talk? :D Cant wait to get the comedy started :D Holocaust denial and promoting certain Nazi things. You can talk about holocaust denial sure. But you get punished for actually saying the holocaust didnt happen, as it is disrespectful for those human beings died in it, thats a big difference =) Promote certain nazi things? whats that? what would you want to promote? You are free to speak about the time 1933-45 as long as you keep it to the facts. How the hell did they even find out about the tweet? Kind of scary if you think about it.. Actually through searching the social media with programs for special keywords Exactly, Germany restricts free speech on certain issues. Because people died. Just like how you shouldn't make twitter jokes bout destroying America then hope to get through customs. Because people died. Germany doesn't even have free speech and you're criticizing America, lol. ROFL, you just dont get it, do you? You can speak freely, nobody will deny that, but you will face the punishement for that. You will be taken to court for denying the holocaust, you also will be taken to court for telling lies about your boss. Maybe you get it now =) Dunno about australia, but here right of free speech doesnt mean, every idiot can state lies all over the place and think he can hide behind the rights of free speech
Actually it generally does mean you can state lies/vile things all over the place.
Unless
..its under oath (perjury)
..it is directly causing harm to someone (fraud/slander/libel... and those are very restricted)
,,it is used as evidence for an actual crime that you planned to commit*
*This is important, they were not in trouble For what they said, they were in trouble For something else because of what they said. (that being said they probably have a good case that they shouldn't have been denied entry completely..and that they should Not have been detained long)
You don't have free Anything if you can be arrested for it afterwards.
(otherwise you could say the under the Nazis you were free to be a Jew. You would just be executed afterwards. since Godwin has already been invoked)
As a side note, the "Human to animal", is probably considering disease transmission
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I woudnt be surprised if they were coming from arabic countries, because seems like everyone that looks like arab(or w/e they are) gets alot of atention at american airports,but a random young dude from UK? didnt expect that :O
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On February 01 2012 00:49 Timurid wrote:
the people who starts these dumb threads are just finding ways to bash americans.
brought to them by americans .
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On February 01 2012 00:49 Timurid wrote:
the people who starts these dumb threads are just finding ways to bash americans.
How is it bashing Americans?
Maybe it is bashing Homeland Security, but that is done by many Americans as well on a regular basis. I dont think they are bashing themelves eveytime they critisize that institution.
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On February 01 2012 00:40 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
Honestly these people were just stupid. Ever since 9-11 our airport security has been extremely touchy about such things. If you are so lacking in intelligence as to be posting something like that right before travelling or actually saying it in the airport.....
Shouldn't have to be careful about something so clearly a joke. As was mentioned earlier, "destroy" means party. What passes for "security" in the US has reached unreasonable levels, and been that way for the last couple of years. Shouldn't be letting fear be our main motivator here or anywhere.
Fucking Patriot Act....
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well better safe than sorry right?
i think they are overdoing it a bit but its good that they are careful
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well now that i know the twitter gets checked and making bad jokes about US can get you in trouble but searching for spades ment to be used in digging up Marilyn Monroe?
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On February 01 2012 00:33 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 00:31 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:28 cz wrote:On February 01 2012 00:26 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:25 cz wrote:On February 01 2012 00:24 Eisregen wrote:On February 01 2012 00:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 01 2012 00:04 ticklishmusic wrote:This guy in the comments section puts it perfectly: If someone is stupid enough to tweet this without recognizing the consequences, I pretty much expect them to be checked out. It's like walking over to a cop and telling him you're going to commit a serious crime later on in the day. You *can* do it, even if you're joking or using play-on words or a figure of speech. Because hey, you're exercising your right to freedom of speech! And then he's going to exercise his right to detain and investigate your ass, because now you've given him reasonable suspicion, and legal authorities (*especially* when it comes to terrorism and stopping another 9/11 scare) are going to put the safety of the country before your own comfort- especially when you're the one who went out of your way to be a bonehead and be tactless in your conversational rhetoric. Better safe than sorry. That being said, I don't really like the fact that they had to share cells with drug addicts (*actual* convicted felons) and ended up being sent home anyway in the end.
Thank you No it is not like walking to an officer, nor an offical and telling him/them they would commit some serious crime. sry to ruin your scenario. Do you guys love to make up such scenarios? I know 9/11 was and is still a big shock (myself included), no doubt, but sometimes I have the feeling the border to paranoid behaviour is crossed and everyone will find excuses for some just stupid behaviour by making up horror scenarios. Questioning these guys at the airport? Ok, I can live with that, though even with common sence you may have seen no need to. What I think are the prolly most retarded and expecially also hilarious parts, are the questions they asked and the decision to send em home afterwards :D I mean, asking them if one would be the lookout when they are digging up marylin, or looking for spades in the suitcase? wtf? That's the point were I am on the floor rolling around holding my stomach cause it hurts xD Says the guy from a country that restricts speech about certain issues. Enlighten me? about which issues arent you allowed to talk? :D Cant wait to get the comedy started :D Holocaust denial and promoting certain Nazi things. You can talk about holocaust denial sure. But you get punished for actually saying the holocaust didnt happen, as it is disrespectful for those human beings died in it, thats a big difference =) Promote certain nazi things? whats that? what would you want to promote? You are free to speak about the time 1933-45 as long as you keep it to the facts. How the hell did they even find out about the tweet? Kind of scary if you think about it.. Actually through searching the social media with programs for special keywords Exactly, Germany restricts free speech on certain issues. Because people died. Just like how you shouldn't make twitter jokes bout destroying America then hope to get through customs. Because people died. Germany doesn't even have free speech and you're criticizing America, lol.
No country has pure freedom of speech. Australia doesn't and neither does the U.S. Libel, defamation and forgery are examples of laws restricting "freedom".
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Well I get held up in Immigration everytime I enter the US. Not for just 1-2 hours, but 7-9 hours at a time. Real retarded.
"You were randomly selected for a detailed interview" Orly? I look around in the waiting area - I see 2 other Pakistanis, and thats it. Still have to wait 7 hours.
LOL
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They probably have to search for you on Twitter, Mayspace and Facebook... That takes time!
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