EPTI had no problem visiting china and at one point they didnt even take my swiss army knife i forgot in my carry on baggage. china rocks usa sucks.
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WhuazGoodJaggah
Lesotho777 Posts
I had no problem visiting china and at one point they didnt even take my swiss army knife i forgot in my carry on baggage. china rocks usa sucks. User was warned for this post | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:00 Redox wrote: This topic is not a joke, but a serious problem for many that like to travel. For some the extreme security measures are a reason to not travel to the US. It is a serious problem, because it's their job to make sure no one ever repeats what happened on 9/11. You think they don't realize they're being a bit paranoid? But what do you think is worse. Sending home a few people who OPENLY stated they were going to 'destroy' regardless of slang, and then nothing catastrophic happens, or b) they say, oh it's just a joke, hahahahaha, and then a bomb blows up an airplane, and the media goes CRAZY about how Homeland security, KNEW of a public announcement on twitter, and they did nothing to stop it. I'm all for freedom, and i agree, being paranoid sucks, but I can't really fault them for being cautious. 9/11 was a terrible disaster, and there HAS been subsequent attacks that have been stopped due to the added security, you just don't hear about them all the time because it would create mass hysteria. Basically it's simple, don't go to a sensitive country about terrorism, shouting things that can be misinterpreted publicly, and you'll have no 'travel problems' in the US. No one is allowed to even mutter the word 'bomb' in an airport or airplane because it's such a dangerous possibility, but you don't see a thread 'US citizens removed from plane because he used the word Bomb'. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46590 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:30 Redox wrote: I was not rolling my eyes at anything. I just said this is a serious problem for many, that is a simple fact. Personally I heard quite often from people I know that US customs / security / police is the reason they dont want to travel there. Oh and please stop talking as if the US was somehow exceptional in having suffered terrorist attacks. I never said that or acted that way, and I wouldn't blame any other country for stopping and questioning people who had posted a Facebook or Twitter message about destroying the country they were visiting- whether it's slang or not. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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HeavenS
Colombia2259 Posts
you're the reason shit like this is able to fly. have we become so fucking stupid of a nation that we SERIOUSLY cannot determine when someone is very obviously not a threat? that we have to go to such extremes just to feel "safe." how can some people not see the abuse of power? how can some people not see how dangerous it is to go down this sort of path where the line gets crossed and suddenly regular people are being classified as threats because of something they said on the internet with absolutely no bad intent. we're at a point where we are actually SCARED to say things because were scared of what might happen to us. This is not how the United States was built. Stop justifying these type of laws and actions by dhs. Its NOT okay and it goes against everything this country was built for. Funny how we had a terrorist attack in 9/11, and, in the name of fighting said terrorists, we willingly give up civil liberties. We willingly let our government pass laws that are borderline unconstitutional. Where do you draw the line? It just keeps getting eroded away more and more little by little and its like no one fucking notices or doesnt give a fuck. We're "fighting terrorists" by becoming more oppressive. Thats ridiculous. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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attwell
United States220 Posts
I'm also allowed to fly. Interesting coincidence no? In short: yes, it sucks that America falls on the side of security over convenience when you are the one being inconvenienced. That being said, you probably shouldn't joke about destroying any country. EDIT: Also, how many times do you seem DHS get harpooned for failing to spot a security risk? How many times do you see them congratulated for preventing an attack? That's why they are so cautious, nobody ever gives you credit for preventing something terrible because they'll never know about it if you are doing it right, but as soon as one thing goes wrong everyone knows you screwed up. | ||
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FluXxxx
Germany57 Posts
someone at the age of around 70 shouted something like "i will blow up those fucking manually operated railway crossing gates" and was later investigated by the police.obviously it was a joke, but some people thought he was for real. you just have to choose your words carefully. nevertheless,sending them back is an overreaction. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:45 Kazeyonoma wrote: It is a serious problem, because it's their job to make sure no one ever repeats what happened on 9/11. You think they don't realize they're being a bit paranoid? But what do you think is worse. Sending home a few people who OPENLY stated they were going to 'destroy' regardless of slang, and then nothing catastrophic happens, or b) they say, oh it's just a joke, hahahahaha, and then a bomb blows up an airplane, and the media goes CRAZY about how Homeland security, KNEW of a public announcement on twitter, and they did nothing to stop it. I'm all for freedom, and i agree, being paranoid sucks, but I can't really fault them for being cautious. 9/11 was a terrible disaster, and there HAS been subsequent attacks that have been stopped due to the added security, you just don't hear about them all the time because it would create mass hysteria. Basically it's simple, don't go to a sensitive country about terrorism, shouting things that can be misinterpreted publicly, and you'll have no 'travel problems' in the US. No one is allowed to even mutter the word 'bomb' in an airport or airplane because it's such a dangerous possibility, but you don't see a thread 'US citizens removed from plane because he used the word Bomb'. To you and everyone else who is like OHMYGAWDTHISCOULDHAVEBEENREAL!!!!11 Let's assume you're a terrorist. Would you use words like "bomb", "destroy", "twin-towers", or "airplane crash"? No, you would fucking call it "pie", "hiking", "bielefeld" and "nuclear meltdown". Erhm, I mean "picknick". In fact, a tweet saying: "We're going to hike to washington tomorrow and bring pie along. Let's hope it will be better than the Bielefeld picknick!" ... is MUCH scarier than: "We're going to destroy washington tomorrow and bring a bomb along. Let's hope it will be more fun than the airplane crash into the twintowers!" Anyone assuming a person who would actually DEDICATE THEIR LIVES to blowing shit up somewhere will behave like a total amateur (completely keeping aside that using twitter to organize is probably a bad idea) should be strapped to a balcony and be whipped until he admits being stupid. | ||
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HeavenS
Colombia2259 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:59 Kazeyonoma wrote: I hope people realize that the government does track things, and if you're posting stupid 'jokes' in this very thread about doing terrorist type things you're probably being flagged by whatever search system they have. but keep joking guys, really. this is what im talking about right here. we cant even make a joke about it without being worried that we'll be "flagged" or whatever. Its bullshit. On February 01 2012 01:53 Djzapz wrote: I'm going to destroy America too, BRT! Yea, u can make that joke cuz ur in canada. I wouldn't have typed that and i wouldn't even make that joke. Yeah it probably won't lead to anything if i did make the joke, but its still the fact that i don't feel confident in being able to make it at all. Thats not okay, i shouldn't have to worry about stupid trivial shit like this in the United States of America. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
Wait, shit, that's something you're supposed to have. On February 01 2012 01:43 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote: There is very good reasons why I don't wanna visit the USA. The big problem is that even a airplane stop (even just for refuel!!!) sucks the exact same way as a visit. I had no problem visiting china and at one point they didnt even take my swiss army knife i forgot in my carry on baggage. china rocks usa sucks. Lesotho? The third world is allowed to talk shit now? I'll agree, the American airport security protocols are a bit much, but that doesn't mean we suck. That just means some guy from a third world country doesn't get to take out his Swiss army knife and cut the pilot's throat. | ||
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ozzy1346
United States38 Posts
im sure if someone went to the U.K and tweeted ''lol visiting england and gonna dig up princess diana's body!!!'' thats not funny, its just stupid as fuck. and have you seen there picture? they look like the real life sumbag steve and stacie | ||
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
Super cautious security measures + foolish travelers + paranoid/bored/incompetent security agents = bad situation every once in a while. | ||
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
On February 01 2012 02:07 HeavenS wrote: this is what im talking about right here. we cant even make a joke about it without being worried that we'll be "flagged" or whatever. Its bullshit. Yea, u can make that joke cuz ur in canada. I wouldn't have typed that and i wouldn't even make that joke. Yeah it probably won't lead to anything if i did make the joke, but its still the fact that i don't feel confident in being able to make it at all. Thats not okay, i shouldn't have to worry about stupid trivial shit like this in the United States of America. Well one day when you become Director of National Intelligence you can reform the government on how to feasibly track millions of people per day to counter terrorist efforts on the American internet superhighway. I'm sure they're looking forward to your advice. | ||
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AllHailTheDead
United States418 Posts
seems pretty ridiculous if he doesnt have a terrorist backround EDIT: wow read this on that page The Department of Homeland Security was recently criticised over false accounts it set up on Twitter. These are then used to scan networks for 'sensitive' words and then for tracking the people who use them. Online privacy group, the Electronic Privacy Information Centre requested information on the DHS's scans, which it says the agency announced in February last year. The group claims that a request under the Freedom of Information Act to access the documentation has gone unanswered. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093796/Emily-Bunting-Leigh-Van-Bryan-UK-tourists-arrested-destroy-America-Twitter-jokes.html#ixzz1l3bJAi3X | ||
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forgehammer
United States79 Posts
On January 31 2012 19:27 zdfgucker wrote: I enjoyed the article, especially this part: Human to animal? Really? Sounds like people need to start switching to Durex if they want into the US. On February 01 2012 01:43 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote: There is very good reasons why I don't wanna visit the USA. The big problem is that even a airplane stop (even just for refuel!!!) sucks the exact same way as a visit. I had no problem visiting china and at one point they didnt even take my swiss army knife i forgot in my carry on baggage. china rocks usa sucks. Well, China is absolutely not the rule when it comes to customs, they are super casual there. You can take as much duty-free stuff as you want, they don't care about pocket knives, etc. It's actually kind of odd coming from the US. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On February 01 2012 02:12 forgottendreams wrote: Well one day when you become Director of National Intelligence you can reform the government on how to feasibly track millions of people per day to counter terrorist efforts on the American internet superhighway. I'm sure they're looking forward to your advice. It is not in the interest of any intelligence service in the world to prevent the threat of terrorism. Events like the one in the OP keep your people in line. The plain fact that a LOT of people in this thread seem to shrug it off with "Yeah, if you know we're sensitive about it you don't joke about it!" shows that it works pretty brilliantly. Any person that condones "I'm gonna destroy america tomorrow" or "I'm gonna destroy Las Vegas starting tomorrow" (in fact I posted the latter quote on facebook myself once) as a "serious threat to the security of our country!" has been brainwashed to hell and back. Tomorrow in the news: College student ended up in jail for saying "I'm gonna fuck the entire college dorm!" | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On February 01 2012 01:59 Kazeyonoma wrote: I hope people realize that the government does track things, and if you're posting stupid 'jokes' in this very thread about doing terrorist type things you're probably being flagged by whatever search system they have. but keep joking guys, really. do you seriously propose that we stop laughing because of government watch? Dude that's aweful. Country bashing is "normal" and pretty much all in good fun. These guys didn't even say something bad about the US. It is ridiculous that I have to watch my mouth to not write something which marks me as a "terrorist". This once more shows, that SOPA would have been abused. Give them power, they'll use it and find reasons to justify it. Makes me said. Watched V yesterday, "it is not the people that should be afraid of the government, the government should be afraid of the people", so freaking true. | ||
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