On January 31 2012 23:33 Velr wrote: Probably because "Europe" is not a country and the things you bring up vary from each of it's member countries... But you declaring Europe a country allready shows the problem "Europeans" have discussing with you...
I don't believe I mentioned anywhere that Europe is a country. Thanks for the misquote.
I can quote inflammatory posts about the US from posters from a large amount of European countries in the past month in threads here on TL, if you'd like.
On January 31 2012 23:33 Velr wrote: Probably because "Europe" is not a country and the things you bring up vary from each of it's member countries... But you declaring Europe a country allready shows the problem "Europeans" have discussing with you...
I don't believe I mentioned anywhere that Europe is a country. Thanks for the misquote.
I can quote inflammatory posts about the US from posters from a large amount of European countries in the past month in threads here on TL, if you'd like.
You can add New Zealand to the list:
On January 31 2012 23:39 RogerX wrote: Sometimes, its shit like this why some people call America dumb.
On January 31 2012 23:39 RogerX wrote: Sometimes, its shit like this why some people call America dumb.
In the past, people have said violent anti-American things on the internet before trying to kill a bunch of people. Please think a little before posting.
What i find a bit strange at the moment is that noone has attacked that source, i though daily mail was pretty much pure bullshit. Is there a more credible source for this?
That was my impression of the daily mail as well.
The Daily Mail = Super Conservative ("Britain's queue for jobs whilst more IMMIGRANTS come for dole money") The Guardian = Super Liberal ("We must accept people who hate our culture and seek to destroy us").
Both circulate equal bullshit to be honest. Take neither seriously and you will be fine.
The Daily Mail is a centre-left paper, just a tabloid centre-left paper.
I know Wikipedia isnt always right, but im pretty sure it is right wing
On January 31 2012 23:13 jello_biafra wrote: This doesn't surprise me very much and I don't think my country can really talk since they tried to send that guy to jail for making a joke on twitter about blowing up an airport.
Yeah, reminds me of a story from a few years ago...
On January 31 2012 23:06 Angra wrote: I can't believe how many Europeans are taking this article seriously. It's a tabloid article. Dailymail shouldn't ever be taken seriously.
And they say the US are the ignorant ones who believe anything, lol. EU, the epitome of thought and reason.
Are your post supposed to be better? You attack people that make generalized ignorant claims by making one yourself. Good job...
Only way to get people's attention in threads like this, really. Otherwise it gets drowned in even more America-flaming posts.
In all seriousness this thread should be closed, though. It's just fueling unneeded anger and bashing when its only source of info is a tabloid site.
Bashing Europe for no reason and demanding the thread closed because you are scared of a little flaming of your country, really?
No, I'm saying the thread should be closed because it's creating a discussion about a tabloid article from a website that has a terrible history of reporting accurate news - essentially a joke site. I don't really think it's thread-worthy, in fact I don't think ANY thread using Dailymail as its only source should be a thread, no matter what country, person, etc. they are talking about. And people are taking the article to be 100% factual when a majority of articles from this site are not.
And as for the country flaming, it's not just "a little". It happens all the time on TL. But as soon as someone says 1 negative thing about Europe people get all defensive, it seems..
Just because the source the OP uses is a 'tabloid' doesn't mean it hasn't been reported elsewhere. A quick search of Google will find a load of different sites reporting it, some more reputable than the one given.
Also Europe is not a country, that's partly the issue when people start to bash 'Europeans'. There are so many languages and cultural differences across 'Europe' that when it is generalised as all being the same, people get a little angry of course. I think your 'Everyone is flaming us, so I will flame someone else' is counter productive and detracts from the point you are trying to make.
Bewildering existence of big brother. Failure is secondary. What a fucking pile of bullshit. Who's the dipshit that thought that scouring peoples public personal tweets where their full names are is a good way to catch people with covert intentions. Maybe they'll just admit to stuff flat out because they think that twitter is a secret place! Oh god, the compounded idiocy involved in this story is too much.
On January 31 2012 23:13 jello_biafra wrote: This doesn't surprise me very much and I don't think my country can really talk since they tried to send that guy to jail for making a joke on twitter about blowing up an airport.
Yeah, reminds me of a story from a few years ago...
On January 31 2012 23:06 Angra wrote: I can't believe how many Europeans are taking this article seriously. It's a tabloid article. Dailymail shouldn't ever be taken seriously.
And they say the US are the ignorant ones who believe anything, lol. EU, the epitome of thought and reason.
Are your post supposed to be better? You attack people that make generalized ignorant claims by making one yourself. Good job...
Only way to get people's attention in threads like this, really. Otherwise it gets drowned in even more America-flaming posts.
In all seriousness this thread should be closed, though. It's just fueling unneeded anger and bashing when its only source of info is a tabloid site.
Bashing Europe for no reason and demanding the thread closed because you are scared of a little flaming of your country, really?
No, I'm saying the thread should be closed because it's creating a discussion about a tabloid article from a website that has a terrible history of reporting accurate news - essentially a joke site. I don't really think it's thread-worthy, in fact I don't think ANY thread using Dailymail as its only source should be a thread, no matter what country, person, etc. they are talking about. And people are taking the article to be 100% factual when a majority of articles from this site are not.
And as for the country flaming, it's not just "a little". It happens all the time on TL. But as soon as someone says 1 negative thing about Europe people get all defensive, it seems..
Just because the source the OP uses is a 'tabloid' doesn't mean it hasn't been reported elsewhere. A quick search of Google will find a load of different sites reporting it, some more reputable than the one given.
Also Europe is not a country, that's partly the issue when people start to bash 'Europeans'. There are so many languages and cultural differences across 'Europe' that when it is generalised as all being the same, people get a little angry of course. I think your 'Everyone is flaming us, so I will flame someone else' is counter productive and detracts from the point you are trying to make.
You could say the same thing about America's diversity too considering 300 million people live here (although it's only 1 country compared to Europe's many), yet still so many posts still just hate all over the US in general anyway without anyone jumping all over them like people are doing to 1 post of mine. :/ Just saying it's a bit hypocritical, and I'm getting pretty tired of seeing it tolerated here on TL. People I have nothing to do with and have no control over do something stupid, and just because they're American too I'm the one who has to hear about how dumb I am for it/how stupid the country I live in is. It's not very pleasant at times.
Obviously there's absolutely no way to generalize any group of people at all in the world, though at times it feels like a lot of people on TL do it for the US. Just gets annoying and I wish it wasn't so tolerated here in the General section.
On January 31 2012 23:32 sermokala wrote: perfectly reasoned. America doesn't fuck around when it comes to anti terror operations in airports and stuff like that. If anything they where flagged on the internet (terror websites stay up for this reason) and then where red flagged for coming into america. When I go to the UK I'm not going to tweet about killing the queen and defacing the graves of kings before I go there its just stupid and the same thing will happen to me.
Well no, neither did they. They said they were going to "destroy America" which, if you went to the U.K, they would take as getting shitfaced. And the reason they said they would dig up Marilyn Monroe was because it's a quote from Family Guy, yaknow, an American comedy show.
Even so, I seriously doubt it would happen in the U.K. even though they had terrorist attacks as well. The saying "only in America" is there for a reason, you seriously underestimate countries outside the U.S if you think they're the same.
Anyone dumb enough to joke with airport security about destroying the country they're trying to get into shouldn't be allowed into the country. The security guards obviously knew they were joking, they aren't robots but there are things called protocol. I'm sure the guards knew the chance they were actually there to destroy america was basically 0 but I'm sure they have a manual somewhere that says they have to take every threat seriously.
I don't really see why everyone complains so much about it. I kinda feel like while the airport security might have overreacted, those tourists definitely should have thought a little bit more about posting stuff like that on Twitter. Security takes shit seriously. They have very strict regulations to follow. It's their job. Don't blame them for taking their jobs seriously. If anything, its kind of the tourists' fault for making light of the situation. Like, I remember reading an article about my local airport being closed down because of a mysterious package left in the bathroom. Turned out it was a roast turkey or something. Pretty sure something like that happened in a movie too.
Generally if you refrain from posting or saying anything stupid airport security is pretty good. I had to go through Hartsfield Jackson (busiest airport in the US/ world) to go home over Winter break, and I got through pretty fast and easy-- unload the laptop, empty pockets into a bin, everything goes through x-ray, done. Another time I did get stopped for brining a bunch of booze back from Austria (it was a gift from the people I was staying with to my parents) but that got cleared up efficiently.
If anyone wants to post something really stupid on the internet and then try going through airport security and see if they get stopped, please, tell us your story too.
This guy in the comments section puts it perfectly:
If someone is stupid enough to tweet this without recognizing the consequences, I pretty much expect them to be checked out. It's like walking over to a cop and telling him you're going to commit a serious crime later on in the day. You *can* do it, even if you're joking or using play-on words or a figure of speech. Because hey, you're exercising your right to freedom of speech! And then he's going to exercise his right to detain and investigate your ass, because now you've given him reasonable suspicion, and legal authorities (*especially* when it comes to terrorism and stopping another 9/11 scare) are going to put the safety of the country before your own comfort- especially when you're the one who went out of your way to be a bonehead and be tactless in your conversational rhetoric. Better safe than sorry. That being said, I don't really like the fact that they had to share cells with drug addicts (*actual* convicted felons) and ended up being sent home anyway in the end.
On February 01 2012 00:01 Count9 wrote: Anyone dumb enough to joke with airport security about destroying the country they're trying to get into shouldn't be allowed into the country. The security guards obviously knew they were joking, they aren't robots but there are things called protocol. I'm sure the guards knew the chance they were actually there to destroy america was basically 0 but I'm sure they have a manual somewhere that says they have to take every threat seriously.
Dude you didn't even read the op. This was a tweet. If you don't know what that is, I can only redirect you to www.twitter.com.
If someone is stupid enough to tweet this without recognizing the consequences, I pretty much expect them to be checked out. It's like walking over to a cop and telling him you're going to commit a serious crime later on in the day. You *can* do it, even if you're joking or using play-on words or a figure of speech. Because hey, you're exercising your right to freedom of speech! And then he's going to exercise his right to detain and investigate your ass, because now you've given him reasonable suspicion, and legal authorities (*especially* when it comes to terrorism and stopping another 9/11 scare) are going to put the safety of the country before your own comfort- especially when you're the one who went out of your way to be a bonehead and be tactless in your conversational rhetoric. Better safe than sorry. That being said, I don't really like the fact that they had to share cells with drug addicts (*actual* convicted felons) and ended up being sent home anyway in the end.
This story is hilarious. Remember the girl from Lie To Me who worked at airport? Well some people there are the full opposite, cant tell the truth even if its plain evident.
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