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On January 31 2012 19:22 SolHeiM wrote:But what if these had been actual terrorists? How are they supposed to deduce if a tweet is real or not? Now you might not think that many "solo" terrorists would openly announce to the world that they're going to destroy America, but when large terrorist organizations openly announce that they will, how can they not take things like this seriously? There is no way that they can know if this is a real threat or not, therefore they have to treat it as a real threat. Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 19:21 Keitzer wrote:
Lol, if I was this brit couple, i'd be just laughing the ENTIRE time... fucking jokes these airport security are man... I wouldn't be laughing. I'd be scared shit-less I'd be thrown into some prison like Guantanamo Bay.
Ah the good old guilty until proven innocent.
A lot of people don't seem to appreciate the stupidity required to get yourself in such trouble in the first place.
You mean using the colloqial slang for getting drunk, and quoting an American cartoon (Family Guy)? The stupidity is on the Americans part I'm afraid.
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Not gonna lie, this is really dumb but what did they expect? To be fair, that couple is probably pretty retarded for thinking this would be a good idea to do, weren't they at least a little suspicious? We're not exactly the model for freedom anymore and I thought most people were aware of that.
Not really really a funny joke either though, it's like the asshole who screams fire in a crowded building and thinks he's being cute.
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I can understand how tweeting "I'm going to destroy America" even if followed by the weird part about digging up marilyn monroe (lol) can be easily misinterpreted if you're not familiar with British slang. Sure its not that smart to say if you actually were going to "destroy America" before hypothetically doing so, but that shouldn't automatically mean that the person shouldn't be investigated.
I'm sure there are dumb terrorists, or terrorists who have so much confidence and bravado that they want to announce to the world what their intentions are before they do it. There must have been cases where people have sent death threats before trying to kill someone, as a way of making them feel worse before the act.
Maybe the extent to which they were detained should have been shortened, but I think the authorities overall did a good thing. This thread is kind of overreacting though (ironically) - just because the TSA can misinterpret a very specific phrase, doesn't mean that America is becoming a paranoid police state, or that you don't have freedom of speech. You wouldn't say that if you shout "I've got a bomb in my suitcase!" (when you really mean you've got the best laptop money can buy!), and you get detained, that its the end of free speech, right?
Edit: After reading the article it sounds really really hard to misinterpret "I'm going to destroy America" when its prefaced by "Free this week, for quick gossip/prep before I go and destroy America?". Sigh, I should've read the article first
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Reminds me of
'Do you have anything metallic sir ?'
'Yeah, a bomb in my pants'.
It's funny but you still get arrested.
But totally different. An overzealous security guard ?
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On January 31 2012 22:26 Eiaco wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 22:08 Deleuze wrote:On January 31 2012 22:06 Eiaco wrote:On January 31 2012 20:48 eklu65 wrote:What i find a bit strange at the moment is that noone has attacked that source, i though daily mail was pretty much pure bullshit. Is there a more credible source for this? That was my impression of the daily mail as well. The Daily Mail = Super Conservative ("Britain's queue for jobs whilst more IMMIGRANTS come for dole money") The Guardian = Super Liberal ("We must accept people who hate our culture and seek to destroy us"). Both circulate equal bullshit to be honest. Take neither seriously and you will be fine. The Daily Mail is a centre-left paper, just a tabloid centre-left paper. I know Wikipedia isnt always right, but im pretty sure it is right wing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_mailPolitical alignment Conservative
That's strange, I rememeber them supporting Tony Blair in the 90s. I stand corrected, though centre-right would be more accurate.
Maybe I'm thinking about the Mirror...
I don't read newspapers anyway.
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On January 31 2012 20:13 Wrongspeedy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 31 2012 20:09 ReboundEU wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 20:07 Wrongspeedy wrote:On January 31 2012 20:04 Dagobert wrote:From now on, I'll expect huge platoons showing up rounding up everyone before midterms/finals, when thousands of teens announce they'll "bomb" the tests. + Show Spoiler + Yes all while joking about digging up dead presidents! HILARIOUS! What a clever joke! Digging up dead people HAHAHAHH Never knew "Marilyn Monroe" was a president, thx for the info ..................................... I was saying thats what the highschoolers would be joking about. And more importantly, digging up dead people is not funny. Regardless of who it is. Since a bunch of people want to defend this guys idea of a "joke". Which happens to not be funnyy. Your welcome for the info. Would you like me to explain what sarcasm is? + Show Spoiler +On January 31 2012 20:09 Dagobert wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 20:07 Wrongspeedy wrote:On January 31 2012 20:04 Dagobert wrote:From now on, I'll expect huge platoons showing up rounding up everyone before midterms/finals, when thousands of teens announce they'll "bomb" the tests. + Show Spoiler + Yes all while joking about digging up dead presidents! HILARIOUS! What a clever joke! Digging up dead people HAHAHAHH Whether the joke is clever or even funny is irrelevant to the urgency of detaining the self-proclaimed jester. Yeah I don't agree with them being detained. But I get why they didn't laugh his tweet off as a joke.
It wasn't simply 'his idea of a joke' you make it sound like he's some twisted loner making sick jokes...it was a quote from family guy..
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On January 31 2012 22:23 AcuWill wrote:
United States is rightfully becoming the laughing stock of the world.
Unfortunately yes. You take real economic damage. Not only costs your security billions and billions of dollars, it also scares away tourists who would bring good money to your country as well as tradesmen who just don't want to deal with that crap and make their deals somewhere else. That actually happens quite a lot. As a funny and sad side note it means Qaida wins because harming the US was their goal.
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On January 31 2012 22:33 Nottoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 19:22 SolHeiM wrote:But what if these had been actual terrorists? How are they supposed to deduce if a tweet is real or not? Now you might not think that many "solo" terrorists would openly announce to the world that they're going to destroy America, but when large terrorist organizations openly announce that they will, how can they not take things like this seriously? There is no way that they can know if this is a real threat or not, therefore they have to treat it as a real threat. On January 31 2012 19:21 Keitzer wrote:
Lol, if I was this brit couple, i'd be just laughing the ENTIRE time... fucking jokes these airport security are man... I wouldn't be laughing. I'd be scared shit-less I'd be thrown into some prison like Guantanamo Bay. Ah the good old guilty until proven innocent.
Their Twitter messages were enough reasonable suspicion for them to be investigated and temporarily detained. It's not like they were immediately convicted of terrorism for crying out loud, or that they were just arbitrarily chosen from the airport line and assumed to be plotting against America.
They should have been allowed into the country after nothing else came up, but they weren't found guilty of anything, and they had already started off on the security's radar.
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On the one hand, it's bullshit. On the other, this is the country that hosted 9/11, so you'll have to bear with us while we overreact to shit.
English couple probably just rubbed someone the wrong way with their flippancy and ultimately paid for it by not being allowed entry into the country. Shit happens.
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On January 31 2012 22:37 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 22:23 AcuWill wrote:
United States is rightfully becoming the laughing stock of the world.
Unfortunately yes. You take real economic damage. Not only costs your security billions and billions of dollars, it also scares away tourists who would bring good money to your country as well as tradesmen who just don't want to deal with that crap and make their deals somewhere else. That actually happens quite a lot. As a funny and sad side note it means Qaida wins because harming the US was their goal.
what did i just read
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Canada2890 Posts
To quote White-Ra as paraphrased by Day9...
Hey Day! How many bomb you have? Ha ha, you can't make joke in America! How many bomb you have!?
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I understand the people criticizing the USA's overreaction to this, but how can you not at the same time criticize that couple for being plain stupid, in fact more stupid?
The joke itself isn't funny at all, the only funny thing is the situation to us observers. Probably not funny for them though because their vacation just got ruined, which could have easily been avoided if they weren't retarded.
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You shouldn't be joking around with those kinds of comments. There are jokes and there are poorly conceived ones. I imagine there's more to this story though than we are being told.
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Aw they changed the article. It read before 'We just wanted to have a good time on holiday. That was all Leigh meant in his tweet. He would not hurt anyone. He is gay'.
Anyway pretty stupid by USA. Nice to see that they are watching every single move on twitter, fucking hell
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Guys, I'd tone down the criticism against the American way of dealing with tourists here, unless you want to be flagged as an alqaida-supporting suicide bomber on some most wanted list.
Apparently the truth is irrelevant, and random statements made on the internet is what counts.
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I just cant believe they actually thought they were there to dig up Marlyn Monroe!
What the hell lol?
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On January 31 2012 22:41 danielrosca wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 22:37 Fenrax wrote:On January 31 2012 22:23 AcuWill wrote:
United States is rightfully becoming the laughing stock of the world.
Unfortunately yes. You take real economic damage. Not only costs your security billions and billions of dollars, it also scares away tourists who would bring good money to your country as well as tradesmen who just don't want to deal with that crap and make their deals somewhere else. That actually happens quite a lot. As a funny and sad side note it means Qaida wins because harming the US was their goal. what did i just read
What do you mean?
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It's the US, I'm not surprised at all.
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On January 31 2012 22:31 danielrosca wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 22:22 smokeyhoodoo wrote:On January 31 2012 22:16 Azzur wrote:
lol, a sad state the USA is in
Still, it's the USA's own country and it's citizens need to stand up or else things will keep going like this. Things need to get worse before they'll get better. A lot of people don't seem to appreciate the gravity of what was done to these people, nor understand why it isn't okay. A lot of people don't seem to appreciate the stupidity required to get yourself in such trouble in the first place. And the concept of risk management.
That is neither here nor there.
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Erm... how did airport security (or some service's agents) know what a british guy wrote on his twitter... ?
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