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I have the exact same problem as you and still haven't solved it, but if I really need to wake up this is what I do and it works 100% of the time.
Put a can of highly caffeinated drink (500ml Monster/RedBull whatever) next to your bed.
When the alarm goes off, open the can and skull it as fast as you can.
You get this feeling of a tidal wave of energy going to your head and you will feel really awake, even if you go back to bed, you won't sleep and will naturally just get up.
It works really well for exam/emergency days.
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I put my alarm in the bathroom so I have to get up to turn it off. By then I figure I might as well shower since I put the effort into walking across the house...
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Personally waking up is fine for me as long as I'm warm WARMTH IS THE KEY! In my opinion good luck with your future sleeping endeavours.
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Have you considered trying this awesome app called Sleep Cycle? I have it on my iphone. it basically detects how much movement you make to judge if you're in a deep sleep, light sleep or you are awake. It will attempt to wake you up when you're near light sleep. This is because going from deep sleep directly to waking up feels really uncomfortable. You have to set a period of time (default is 30mins) in which it has to wake you up since it has to judge when you are in the lightest form of sleep. It works at least 80% of the time for me. It's an awesome feeling since they don't need to use a loud alarm. I generally wake up to the soothing piano piece Gymnopedie totally refreshed and awake :D
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I scanned over the thread briefly but didn't see this posted already. If it has been, I apologize.
Right now you are in the habit of hitting snooze and going back to bed. Because you are tired when you first wake-up it is nearly impossible to think rationally, and thus difficult to break this habit even if you get more sleep. Instead try forming a new habit while you are awake. "Practice" waking up the night before; set your alarm for 2 minutes, lay in bed in a dark room and then when you alarm goes off get up, turn it off and then go to the bathroom. It sounds crazy but it worked exceptionally well for me.
I got the idea from the following blog if you want to read more: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/04/how-to-get-up-right-away-when-your-alarm-goes-off/
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Instead, try hiding your alarm clock. It's worked for me before. Give it a try maybe.
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When my alarm wakes me up, I think about drinking coffee and browsing team liquid and it gets me pumped to wake up. Seriously though just plan something enjoyable for the first thing in the morning, and you'll look forward to it and won't want to sleep.
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I usually have very little trouble talking myself out of class and back into REM.
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My problem is that I normally need something to look at from bed until I feel like actually getting up, so I wrote a program that opens specified live streams at a specified time. It hasn't helped a great deal, but it's nice
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This is interesting. With all the little sleep I've been getting, I've been developing new ways to wake up.
First of all, I try to mix things up. I use more than 1 alarm. I can use my digital clock alarm, my cell phone, my mp3 player, or a combination of them.
I've found that, at least for me, it's easier (and more comfortable) to wake up with a relaxing song/music rather than one that is fast or epic. The contrast between sleeping and fast paced music makes it uncomfortable listening to it. However, sometimes I do wake up when I hear faster louder music... I guess it depends, like how long have you known that particular song? If it's new I find it easier to wake up too, especially if you tell yourself the night before something like "I like this song, it's epic, I will wake up when I hear it"
Another technique I use is putting my alarms in different/new places. Try to pick places that make you THINK when you want to turn it off. Force yourself to look around if you have to. It shouldn't be in reach where you can easily get back in bed. It also should not be somewhere that is familiar. When you put your alarm under a tshirt on a table for example, do not think about it too much when you actually do it. Put it there quickly and think of something else as you go to sleep, or else you won't have to think as much when you wake up. When you wake up and have to think about where the alarm is, it gets your brain moving.
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On January 04 2012 11:50 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 11:49 Jonoman92 wrote:On January 04 2012 11:03 micronesia wrote:On January 04 2012 10:06 Release wrote:On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
User was warned for this post I don't understand why he is warned? It looks like he didn't read the OP. If you had looked more closely, you too could have realized this. The power is yours. Not sure why you think so Micronesia. The OP never says whether his alarm clock is bedside or across the room somewhere. It's pretty good advice. Btw, I do what you do. My cell phone alarm goes off by my bed and 2 minutes later my digital clock across the room goes off and gets me up for real if the first didn't do the trick. You and shallow[sillygoose] did not read the OP carefully enough.
he asked what people do and the guy replied!
not his fault that he can't drag himself out of bed imo although i'm notorious for sleeping through half a day of class because i can hit the snooze button in my sleep so i can't really talk
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lol @ people failing to read both the OP and the thread...
Regarding the OP, the problem is not the alarm method, it's that you're trying to wake yourself at a time when your body's biological clock is promoting sleep. If you regularly go to bed at 2am, your body will adjust to that time. Trying to wake up before 10am will be difficult, and there will be a strong tendency to snooze or ignore the alarm. Louder or more elaborate alarms aren't going to fix the underlying problem, which is that your circadian clock is entrained to a late bedtime. If you want to be able to get up at 9am, you need to be regularly getting to bed by 1am, and avoiding light exposure in the hour or two before bed. Bright light in the morning will also help to advance your circadian clock to an earlier time, so you could try going for morning walks or runs.
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It really is just forcing yourself to get up. Sometimes I do a countdown to get out of bed and unfortunately it still fails here and there. One thing I would recommend though is getting up a couple hours before work/school whatever. I find that I do much better at my job if I have been up for a little while, whereas if I just got up and left I feel kind of shitty all day.
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http://sleepyti.me/
Sleepyti.me is a bedtime calculator that can help you calculate when to fall asleep. By counting backwards in sleep cycles, sleepyti.me has the ability to help you wake up refreshed, instead of feeling groggy. Sleepyti.me can also help you figure out what time to set your alarm if you are going to sleep at that moment.
This is what I use now, it's pretty much the greatest invention ever.
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If you use a smart phone to wake up you could always set the alarm to one of your favorite songs so while you wake up and get ready you can jam and sing along with your music. I dont know if it is possible but i always wanted to try and have my alarm clock play a mp3 of a funny stand up, i find it more pleasant to wake up from laughter.
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On January 04 2012 15:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:http://sleepyti.me/Sleepyti.me is a bedtime calculator that can help you calculate when to fall asleep. By counting backwards in sleep cycles, sleepyti.me has the ability to help you wake up refreshed, instead of feeling groggy. Sleepyti.me can also help you figure out what time to set your alarm if you are going to sleep at that moment. This is what I use now, it's pretty much the greatest invention ever. Unfortunately, there's no real basis to these "90-minute" planners. The REM/NREM cycle's period varies greatly between and within individuals (from around 90-120 minutes). There's also a huge amount of variability in how long it takes to fall asleep, and how long you will spend awake during the night, both of which affect the timing of sleep cycles. It's therefore impossible to accurately predict when someone will end a sleep cycle, without directly monitoring their sleep (which some devices now do).
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imagine it like this: your alarm clock is now a hot girl and she is sucking your #*#% to wake you up. Would you slap her in the face to stop what she is doing so you could go back to sleep?
alamr clock in my opinion should be enjoyable. My uncle used to do this trick on me when i used to live with him where he just gona leave the radio or his fav CD on at medium volume. Eventually i will wake up by the song coming out from the stereos.
Now there is a huge flaw to this: what if you really enjoy the music and sleep anyway? Well its about responsibility right? a high school student might skip his classes for sleep but no fucking way he would skip his final exam. You should find away to remind yourself of your responsibility therefore wake yourself up using will power. Not too hard really.
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On January 04 2012 15:09 whatthefat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 15:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:http://sleepyti.me/Sleepyti.me is a bedtime calculator that can help you calculate when to fall asleep. By counting backwards in sleep cycles, sleepyti.me has the ability to help you wake up refreshed, instead of feeling groggy. Sleepyti.me can also help you figure out what time to set your alarm if you are going to sleep at that moment. This is what I use now, it's pretty much the greatest invention ever. Unfortunately, there's no real basis to these "90-minute" planners. The REM/NREM cycle's period varies greatly between and within individuals (from around 90-120 minutes). There's also a huge amount of variability in how long it takes to fall asleep, and how long you will spend awake during the night, both of which affect the timing of sleep cycles. It's therefore impossible to accurately predict when someone will end a sleep cycle, without directly monitoring their sleep (which some devices now do).
I remember reading somewhere that everyone has differently timed sleep cycles; I find that I'm most refreshed with either 4 hours of sleep or somewhere around 10, anything in between just leaves me tired anyways so I use sleepytime to optimize as much as I can
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You could try reproducing. I haven't used my alarm clock since my daughter was born. Little kids don't have snooze buttons, and they tend to wake up pretty early.
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How do you deal with feeling tired all day if you go to bed at 2AM, Fall asleep at 3AM and wake up at 10-11AM?? I usually feel sickly if I don't sleep until 12-1 when I go to bed late.
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