So every morning, I try to wake up by using an alarm clock. Lots of people do this and they have no trouble with it. But I am certain that I am not alone when I say that I have trouble 'listening' to my alarm clock. The alarm clock wakes me up, that for sure but then I have the evil temptation of turning off the alarm clock and proceeding back to bed. This really sucks, I usually sleep untill noon and by then I feel like I have wasted the whole day, since I go to bed at 2AM. So my current instincts tell me to turn off the alarm clock and stay in the warm sanctity that is my bed. I'm wondering what you all do to get up when you hear the alarm clock and to resist the temptation of turning it off. I tried setting it across the room, I just slowly lay back down and go to bed.
So once again, here is the question: How do you make yourself get up when you hear your alarm clock? How do you resist the temptation of turning it off, or how can I personally resist the temptation of turning it off? Thanks!
Maybe it is just me, but I never really had the phase where I would turn off or delay my alarm. When I hear it, I get up. It is just routine, no matter how tired, and what situation, I will get up.
You have to force yourself out of bed. There really is no other way. I once rigged the fire alarm to go off as an alarm clock, but even after getting a step-ladder and yanking the batteries out, I still crawled into bed and slept another 5 hours.
Discipline yourself, young padawan. You are your only hope.
I have one near my bed and one across the room. The one near my bed goes off 5 minutes before the one across the room. They each have a 10 minute snooze cycle. After a couple of cycles I get up :D
A few things to consider:
1) How long after you fall asleep are you setting your alarm for? 2) What is your reason for wanting to be on an earlier schedule?
mod edit: User's warning was due to a clear failure to read the OP fully before responding. The OP clearly said he had tried putting the alarm clock across the room.
Maybe set up two alarm clock and place them on opposite ends of the room? Or get one of those coffee makers that starts brewing at a preset time, and time it so that as soon as the alarm goes off, the coffee maker has finished brewing (something like a 10 minute difference?).
I don't really have that problem waking up though. However if you're really having problems getting up at the right time, maybe it's because you just have a shitty sleep schedule. If you're unable to make time for 7-8 hours of sleep, try taking a short nap during the day so you don't need as much sleep at night.
Edit: Also, random idea. Put a bowl of ice next to your bed before you go to sleep, by the time the alarm goes off it should have melted into really cold ice water. So once the alarm goes off, immediately dunk your face into the bowl.
I've woke up at 3:30 am for the past 6 years. Without an alarm clock. Even if I stay up late or drink or whatever. I have to start work at 4 so I just hurry up get ready and rush out the door. I get everything ready the night before so the only thing I have to think about when I wake up is putting on my clothes, brushing my teeth and leaving.
I have a really hard time to get up, too. I can just turn my alarm off just like you and continue sleeping like nothing happened. But if you really get up when you set it across the room and still go back to bed, i´m not sure what can help you. The thing that i experienced is that if you don´t have any commitment for the day, it´s hell of a lot harder. If i know i have to be at work or whatever at a certain time, i will get up.... as late as possible, but i will get up. Other than that it´s probably just a matter of self-discipline.
Edit: Oh, and this
On January 04 2012 09:43 Lmui wrote: The snooze button is the way to go. 8 minute intervals is usually enough that I can wake up by the 3rd or 4th alarm.
I wrap my phone inside something, like a pair of socks or put it in my jeans and ball them up. Often times both. That creates a little puzzel for me which kinda makes me wake up. It may not sound that challenging to unravel something that simple, but at 5 am it has taken me longer than i want to admit.
If you decide to lay back down in bed after you're already standing up then you just need to get some mental fortitude. Clearly the comfort in your bed is more important to you then actually getting up or else you would get the fuck up. I don't really know what to say besides that.
Having some type of a wakeup routine in addition to the thing I suggested might help also. When I get up... first thing I do is wobble over to my computer in the next room and sit in the chair. It allows me to check what happened overnight and slowly let the light from the computer wake me up.
'Following' things online helps because your interest to check up on it in the morning wakes you up.
I was searching about polyphasic sleep and the guy adressed this problem and how he solved it. In polyphasic sleep you need to sleep only 20-30minutes so you get REM depressed and waking up is very hard after only 20-30minutes so he "practiced" waking up by just laying down not even sleeping and setting his alarm clock and when alarm clock get off he would stand up and maybe even start running and stuff. After 20 times of this that would be a reflex for him even after sleeping to just wake up stand and start his day after alarm.
It's actually a mental thing more than anything. Subconsciously, you decided that whatever you had planned for that day was not important enough to warrant getting up earlier for. If, for example, you had a job interview that day, you would definitely listen to the alarm clock for that!
Like breaking any bad habit (or establishing a good one), you need to circumvent this through positive/negative reinforcement until you have a new routine established. There are many things you could try! I recommend having a friend help you out, like doing something randomly undesirable every time you don't wake up at a target hour (call you, hit you with a rubber chicken, set off 15 alarm clocks around you). Set a target time slightly earlier than what you normally wake up to, and then reduce it progressively until you hit the time you want to wake up at.
Also, I believe eating supper earlier will cause you to get tired earlier, thus getting an earlier sleep (you'll also be quite hungry in the morning ).
well i suppose if your really desperate u could always get your siblings to get a bucket of water but honestly i would lock the alarm anywhere near you like a desk compartment and lock it and place the keys somewhere like the kitchen where u can wash your face and not instantly fall back asleep
(ps; i sleep for mostly 2 hours everyday so it should more or less work)
I don't think I've ever used the snooze button... it's a stupid button to begin with. Instead of setting it 30 minutes early to allow for a bunch of snoozes, I just set it at a time where I know I need to get up. It lets me get more actual sleep instead of compounding the problem and pissing me off at the same time.
If you're having problems getting up when the alarms rings and they're not related to disease/depression/etc, then you quite simply aren't getting enough sleep and you need to make an effort to get more (or go to bed at times that don't mess over your circadian rhythm too much)
My strategy is to think a hot shower is more tempting than lying in bed. So when my alarm goes off I instantly turn it off and make a run for the shower!
I actually got to a point where I would turn off my alarm in my sleep. It was bad. I would wake up two hours after it was set to go off thinking it hadn't gone off, then be told by my family that it woke them up and that I did indeed turn it off... While I must have still been asleep.
What I did to fix this was start using my iPhone's alarm clock. Not only is it louder than the one I had been using, but you actually can't turn it off without logging in to your phone and then going to your alarms and turning it off - if you press the "snooze" button that's on the screen or the "hold" button on the top it simply turns it off only to go off again 9 minutes later. This is an awesome feature as I can set my alarm to wake me up 30 minutes before I actually plan on getting up, and just keep hitting snooze. Eventually when it's time I've gradually woken myself up to the point of where I'm ready to get up.
Another thing you must realize is that your day is exponentially longer if you get up earlier - I normally get 6-8 hours of sleep and I absolutely love it. I used to hate getting up early and would almost always sleep for 12+ hours had I had the chance. I've realized now though that you can accomplish so much more in a day. For instance, today I got up at 9:30 (45 minutes before my alarm was set to go off :p) and by the time my friend had woken up, I had already made myself my protein shake, gamed Osu, SCII, CoD:BO, and was ready to go to the gym. The whole time, he had accomplished nothing. End result: he was still more tired than me.
Studies have been done (or so I've been told by this same friend) that prove the more you sleep, the more you want to sleep. Don't quote me on this though because I'm not entirely sure :s
On January 04 2012 09:44 micronesia wrote: I have one near my bed and one across the room. The one near my bed goes off 5 minutes before the one across the room. They each have a 10 minute snooze cycle. After a couple of cycles I get up :D
A few things to consider:
1) How long after you fall asleep are you setting your alarm for? 2) What is your reason for wanting to be on an earlier schedule?
This is EXACTLY what I do. Even the length of the snooze cycles haha.
I used to download a computer alarm system that would play techno when I was meant to wake up. Worked really well, made me pumped as fuck for the day. I recommend it if you like techno (or play whatever upbeat music you do like). Also, if you are doing this on windows, you need to change your sleep/hibernate settings so that, you know, your computer is still on while you wake up. That's important.
Well first off, I set 3 alarms with 5 minute intervals in between, which helps me get out of that drowzy state where you just go right back to sleep after hitting snooze. It's also helpful to go to bed somewhat hungry so that you are eager to wake up the next day a bit early to eat something haha.
I don't see why Ugapa was warned for saying "put it out of reaching distance".
And yes, I advocate putting your clock at a place that will be somewhat difficult to reach. I like to put mine on the cupboard, so I have to climb on the edge of my bed and that forces my brain, or so I assume, to wake up, because you don't keep your balance by being half-asleep.
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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This guy was warned for posting that... but it was about the same thing I was gonna post O_O Like, really.. putting it at a fair distance always does the job~
the best motivation to actually wake up for your alarm is to have some real motivation to wake up in my experience lol. yea it sounds like shitty advice but I'll skip so many classes and just sleep in if I dont feel sufficiently motivated to go. sometimes I will make extra plans with friends or group meetings right after or before class to give myself better motivation to actually wake up lol.
I love my Snooze button, but getting good sleep is the best way to wake up, and resist the temptation to go back to sleep regardless.
I've played around with Radio vs Buzzer (I prefer Buzzer, Loud) over Radio, as all it takes, and the right song becomes a part of my dream, or its a nice soft song playing and I just lul there and sleep through it. I've done the alarm clock across the room, and it doesnt help me in particular.
As already mentioned, setting up a particular pattern in the morning helps, as you can kinda go on Autopilot till your higher functions of your brain kick in.
Lastly, having the alarm loud enough to actually Wake you, vs jog you awake is important. But not too loud... heart attacks suck.
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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I don't understand why he is warned?
One way you can do it is to put it under your bed at the end where your feet are. That way to have to get up or at least move yourself in order to turn it off.
i set alarms on my phone with the most annoying sound possible to wake me up. i also alway set two, one at 7am for example, and one at 7.02am.
Usually works for me, i can snooze for another two minutes which is bliss, and the second one reminds me that i actually HAVE to get up. Funny how a seemingly "happy" jingle on my phone is now the sound that i hate the most in this world though :D
I keep my phone (alarm) in a hard to reach place in the top corner of my closet, which is all the way across the room. So basically, I'm awake when I have to get up, walk 8m, tippy-toe, reach as far as I can and search for the bloody alarm every morning.
I found a position which I'm not good at sleeping in, and when my alarm goes off I instantly go to it. For me it's putting my knees up. As soon as my alarm goes off I pull my legs back so my knees are up and for some reason I just don't go back to sleep.
On January 04 2012 09:43 Fawkes wrote: Will power.
Maybe it is just me, but I never really had the phase where I would turn off or delay my alarm. When I hear it, I get up. It is just routine, no matter how tired, and what situation, I will get up.
its not just you, its the way we work, if we follow one way often and stick to it, it becomes routine. im the guy only wakes up if there is something in it for me, otherwise it feels hard to get up and move around, but if there is something in it for me, im literally able to bounce out of a bed into a pair of magical pants and "woop" out the door i go! lol laziness at its finest ofc.
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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This guy was warned for posting that... but it was about the same thing I was gonna post O_O Like, really.. putting it at a fair distance always does the job~
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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I don't understand why he is warned?
One way you can do it is to put it under your bed at the end where your feet are. That way to have to get up or at least move yourself in order to turn it off.
The OP specifically said he tried it and it didn't work, probably combined with the fact that it's a one-liner.
get some fancy clock alarm with speakers and record in it BM of all sorts, so at the morning you get all mad and get up to turn off/destroy the damn thing
Personally I got mine on the other side of the room tuned in to my most hated radio station, usually does the trick for me lol. I got a friend who has a similar problem to you and he ended up getting 5 clocks set to go off in 5 min intervals spread around his room.
Making a waking up routine I think is the best method for waking up easily. A simple routine that becomes habitual will be something you can trust your body to do in the grogginess of morning. Leaving your alarm clock close to the bathroom & splashing water on your face right after shutting it off could be one simple routine, but you can do whatever works for you.
I've had this problem during a period, and for me it was that I had no reason to go up at the time that I wanted to. It might sound stupid but try and have some sort of activity that you need to do early. If I have nothing I need to do until 2pm, there's no way in hell I'll motivate myself in the morning to go up at 8am.
Having a reason to get up is a big step. If your on break, or don't have a job, whatever it be, it can be very difficult to get up knowing you have nothing important to do that day. I should know! I lived many months free from School and Work. I slept 12-14 hours some days, simply because why the hell not?
Once I got a Job or went back to School, I work up no problem, because I knew I had shit to do and no time to waste.
Only piece of advice I can really offer is make sure your alarm is out of reach. If an alarm is beside me, I will turn in OFF (not just snooze!), which requires effort (Phone alarm), and I'll wake up 4 hours later wondering why my alarm never went off. I literally turn off my alarm in my sleep :<.
I guess I could also suggest one of those puzzle alarms I've seen. They make you do basic math or puzzle problems so the buzzer will stop going off. Idea is to get your brain thinking, thus you'll feel awake.
Teenagers need more than 8 hours sleep. Even into your early 20s for some people. Get up when you wake up naturally, if you can afford it, and resist the urge to "roll back over" when you are past 7 hours.
i put it on the radio instead. it slowly wakes me out of sleep and i just lay there listening to the radio ( most likely news) for aroun 30mins. thne im fully awake and awesome
Get a heart reverb alarm clock. It only works like 85% of the time but it WILL wake you up in a silent seemless fashion. The reason it only goes off 85% of the time is to teach your body to wake up on schedule without it's help. Worked for me.
If you're feeling super tired when you wake up it generally means you need more sleep. Getting enough sleep is key to staying healthy and neglecting your body adequate time to recuperate each day can have some bad side effects in the long term.
If you want advice though, take this:
Sleep in blocks that are divisible by 90 minutes (such as 6 hours, 7.5 hours, 9 hours) as the body goes through sleeping cycles of heavy/light sleep so its easier to wake up at some intervals. I've found that if I sleep for 6 hours rather than 6.5 or 7 hours then I wake up much easier and I'm more alert when I do wake up.
Try getting 7.5 hours sleep a night if you're 18+ or 9 hours if you're under that.
Have something to wake up for. Like going for a run before the day is too hot, or playing a few games of Starcraft before going to school/work. The classic one that almost no one seems to wake up for these days is waking up early to read the news. It gives you something to talk about with coworkers, classmates, or friends during the day.
Just feeling like you "wasted the whole day" is something that people regurgitate from what other people have told them. Seriously, what would have have done before noon? Watch TV? Watch Starcraft streams? Have something scheduled for yourself in the morning and you will be able to wake up much easier.
Surprised no one has said this so far....I use Alarm Clock Xtreme on my android phone. Has lots of various ways to wake up, including a GPS sensor reading mechanism thingy....but what has worked best for me is the math problems....
One alarm - snooze 2nd alarm - no option for snooze...must solve X math problems of Y difficulty. Allows you to mute the alarm for about 10s, but that's it.
Works like a charm....gets your brain thinking to avoid the alarm and not sleeping.
I used to use the old "clock across the room" trick, but that stopped working. Started working again while I'm at school. The bed in my dorm room is lofted, so laying back down is no longer so easy.
If you want a hardcore suggestion for a serious getting up issue, enclose the clock inside a box that is sound penetrable and latch the box with a pad lock. Crazy, yet foolproof
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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I don't understand why he is warned?
It looks like he didn't read the OP. If you had looked more closely, you too could have realized this. The power is yours.
OP:
How do you make yourself get up when you hear your alarm clock? How do you resist the temptation of turning it off, or how can I personally resist the temptation of turning it off? Thanks!
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On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
How do you make yourself get up when you hear your alarm clock? How do you resist the temptation of turning it off, or how can I personally resist the temptation of turning it off? Thanks!
Give yourself something important to do every morning so that when you wake up and look at the clock you'll realize how long you have to get started on said task and you'll get right to it.
Buy one of them alarm clocks that do special things to wake you up. Mine for example, is an air siren that goes off, fires out a helicopter and won't turn off until you put the helicopter back on the pad.. This... wakes you up.
On January 04 2012 10:21 jlim wrote: get some fancy clock alarm with speakers and record in it BM of all sorts, so at the morning you get all mad and get up to turn off/destroy the damn thing
u gotta be a rager for it to work tho
LOL!!! An alarm that BMs. "hey fuck you, your macro is so bad, cheeser"
I turn mine up to full volume. Since I've pretty much trained myself to wake up 5-10 minutes before my alarm, if I don't get up to turn it off (it's on the opposite side of the room) everyone's going to scream at me for waking them up.
I'm convinced that I need an alarm clock that can't be turned off unless I solve a puzzle first. My brain has bad logic when I hear the alarm in the morning. The night before? I absolutely must get up. Then the morning comes... "it's not that important... you can miss this class. no big deal"
I've read (I think it was on Lifehacker... it was a few years ago anyway) that if you sleep in 90-minute intervals you'll wake up feeling awake instead of tired. So that means if you're going to bed at 2 am and want to wake up at say, 8 am, you should be fine. However, if you want to wake up at 7, you'll be 30 minutes into you « sleepy » phase.
Here's a link to the original article. It's interesting, don't know if it's even possible, but I've been trying to aim for 90-minute multiples and it seems to work... though I can't say I notice that often.
Willpower seems like the only thing that works for me now. Starting in two days, I have to get up at 7AM, something I haven't done in 6 months, so I have been trying to force myself to get up. So far I have slept through my alarms. I almost feel like it's because I know I don't have to do anything. Luckily, today I forced myself to get up at 7:30 so I should be okay now, though I felt terrible the whole day.
You could look into getting a math-based alarm for your phone. I have been looking for one but so far most of them are just addition or subtraction questions. I need harder questions than that to wake me up.
I use to have the same problem sort of, except I would shut it off entirely, in my sleep. Leading me to wake up late for work a few times saying WTF IT'S SET ON! So I put it on a night table across my room now so I have to physically get up to shut it off. But ever since I started doing it that way, I now wake up 10 minutes or so before my alarm no matter what time I set it for, it's kinda crazy actually. I do sometimes make it to the alarm though, I would say 4/30x per month I wake up to the actual alarm. And find I wake up a little more tired than usual. Anyone else here experience the same?????
It sounds dumb but what works (for me) is to have a really fucking loud alarm. I wake up about 5-10 mins before it goes of in that dozy kinda state and when the really fucking loud alarm goes off I have the ''ÁH WHAT THE SHIT??!'' reaction and wake up. It's also helpful for the off button to be finicky. Also I keep a beanie on top of my alarm clock at night because it's digital and really bright so I can't press the snooze button.
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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I don't understand why he is warned?
It looks like he didn't read the OP. If you had looked more closely, you too could have realized this. The power is yours.
Not sure why you think so Micronesia. The OP never says whether his alarm clock is bedside or across the room somewhere. It's pretty good advice. Btw, I do what you do. My cell phone alarm goes off by my bed and 2 minutes later my digital clock across the room goes off and gets me up for real if the first didn't do the trick.
edit: Wait, why is this still in general and not blogs?
On January 04 2012 10:21 jlim wrote: get some fancy clock alarm with speakers and record in it BM of all sorts, so at the morning you get all mad and get up to turn off/destroy the damn thing
u gotta be a rager for it to work tho
LOL!!! An alarm that BMs. "hey fuck you, your macro is so bad, cheeser"
If you are any good at programming, you can probably write a script and record an audio file for it to play at a designated time. Then you just turn your speakers up full blast before bed and close any other annoying programs.
This is interesting, I never have trouble waking up through my alarm clock. Once it goes off I let it run for a bit, then hit the snooze, then lie back down and stretch and take care of my "wood", then hit the snooze at least once more before I fully get up and get ready for my day.
I also notice that its easier for me to get up in the morning when I know I have no plans, example: I have no class, work, errands. But when I do have a day ahead of me, its like I resent it and try to stall out the day longer by being blissfully asleep =D
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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I don't understand why he is warned?
It looks like he didn't read the OP. If you had looked more closely, you too could have realized this. The power is yours.
Not sure why you think so Micronesia. The OP never says whether his alarm clock is bedside or across the room somewhere. It's pretty good advice. Btw, I do what you do. My cell phone alarm goes off by my bed and 2 minutes later my digital clock across the room goes off and gets me up for real if the first didn't do the trick.
You and shallow[sillygoose] did not read the OP carefully enough.
I use my phone and set the alarm to play something really stupid I wouldn't want other people hear coming out of my room. I set it to play loud, and I turn on that "solve a simple math equation to turn off the alarm" setting. Wake up in a rush to turn off the alarm every morning and it definitely wakes me up.
I normally put my iPhone alarm on. I use this thing called RTonemaker, where I can use my own songs to make ringtones. I use that as my alarm. Hearing my favorite songs in full blast mode wakes me up instantly.
Then, here is the most important part:
After you turn off your alarm, head immediately to the bathroom and wash your face. Most of the time that will wake you up and you won't go back to sleep
On January 04 2012 11:51 TheSasquatch wrote: Drink a huge glass of water before you go to bed. Your bladder will make you get out of bed in the morning.
Try to place it in a bag or something and make it hard to open up! Then you need to take some time to turn it off and it can wake you up enough so you have the will power to not go back to bed!
Another thing is that you might consider going to bed a bit earlier!
I don't ever use the snooze button either. What I do is put my alarm clock at a distance where I have to get out of bed to turn it off. But I have some sort of internal clock that I can wake up if I need to go somewhere in the morning, even with 5 hours of sleep etc.
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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I don't understand why he is warned?
It looks like he didn't read the OP. If you had looked more closely, you too could have realized this. The power is yours.
Not sure why you think so Micronesia. The OP never says whether his alarm clock is bedside or across the room somewhere. It's pretty good advice. Btw, I do what you do. My cell phone alarm goes off by my bed and 2 minutes later my digital clock across the room goes off and gets me up for real if the first didn't do the trick.
You and shallow[sillygoose] did not read the OP carefully enough.
My advice is to set a song that you really like and will want to have playing when you start your day. I think that alarms that have really annoying sounds are just a terrible way to regain consciousness.
I wake up to chrono trigger every day and it is great.
I find if I make myself get up everytime (and usually hop directly into a shower to avoid the temptation to sit there...and slowly fall asleep again) that it becomes easier and easier. However after a week during vacation the habit is a bit broken. I think it basically comes down to willpower + conditioning. If you condition yourself to get up no matter what the will to do so becomes easier and easier over time.
That and I have a cat that as soon as the alarm goes off is in my face pawing at me for foods. This helps tremendously as I know he will not leave me alone and I feel bad if I ignore his hunger >^..^<
You think you waste the day with those hours, I sleep from 10am-6pm currently...
Anyway it is really easy, just put it somewhere where you have to get up to turn it off. One year at school I had my bed lofted so I had to climb down from the ceiling to turn off my alarm, made it much easier to go to class every morning (it stopped working well near the end of the year though, I would end up laying on my futon every morning after turning off the alarm and I would sleep there for several extra hours).
On January 04 2012 11:57 TALegion wrote: I put my alarm clock on the other side of the room.
I think it's funny that after multiple posts discussing how someone got warned for saying this because it was in the OP, someone just said it again. I guess it's different since it's not a direct suggestion, but still
Anyways, try turning the light on when you turn off your across-the-room alarm clock Doesn't work too well with roommates or spouses, but it worked well for me when I could use it.
Lol, alarm clocks don't even wake me up in the first place; I just keep sleeping through the loud buzzing/ringing. This is really a problem that I have since I usually end up waking up really late... Any suggestions to help me?
I find that being waken up gently as opposed to a sudden loud beeping/ringing alarm makes for a much more soothing morning experience. Even though the sudden loud ringing will cause my heart to jump, I end up still being tired and just rush run over to my alarm clock to hit that snooze button.
My droid alarm clock allows for the sound to start quiet and slowly get louder. And the calm music of final fantasy usually helps put a smile on my face. I'll sometimes just let it play through the entire song before I get out of bed and turn the alarm off.
For those who cannot tell, it's a cell phone alarm. It's resting at an angle, and the vibration from the alarm causes it to slide off the shelf and onto my lower torso.
On January 04 2012 09:54 psychopat wrote: I don't think I've ever used the snooze button... it's a stupid button to begin with. Instead of setting it 30 minutes early to allow for a bunch of snoozes, I just set it at a time where I know I need to get up. It lets me get more actual sleep instead of compounding the problem and pissing me off at the same time.
If you're having problems getting up when the alarms rings and they're not related to disease/depression/etc, then you quite simply aren't getting enough sleep and you need to make an effort to get more (or go to bed at times that don't mess over your circadian rhythm too much)
well as a student, more than often i DONT get enough sleep, and in the case that this happens and i have problems getting up, setting the snooze to 2 hours before my wake up time and 30minute-1hour intervals gets me up. even if i go to sleep at 6 am and need to get up by 9 am.
On January 04 2012 11:51 TheSasquatch wrote: Drink a huge glass of water before you go to bed. Your bladder will make you get out of bed in the morning.
Or wake you up in the middle of the night
I wake up off of feel, I dunno how it works, but my body just wakes me up at around 8:00 am every morning. I hate using alarms.
Alarm clocks don't work on me at all. Even if the alarm is on the other side of the room, I'll just turn it off and go back to sleep without remembering anything. I find the thing that works best is to set 4-5 alarms at weird intervals, like if I need to wake up at 7am I'll set 6:35, 6:41, 6:50, 6:52, 6:57. That usually does the trick. Even I can't sleep through a half hour of disturbance.
Adjust your eating habits. If you are eating dinner at 11 pm then it tells your body to sleep at 2 am. Eating at normal times basically tricks your body's clock into sleeping normally. Circumvents the whole alarm system. Works great for time zone changes too.
I have heard setting it to have your total sleep time in multiples of 90 minutes will wake you up at a good time in the sleep cycle, so you can wake up more easily.
Personally I don't usually use an alarm, I naturally wake up at about 6:30 every day. When I used an alarm more consistently I would just let the 9-minute snooze run a few times and I would get up, although I remember when I was younger I would wake up the first time. Probably because I went to bed earlier then, not because of my age.
Recently I've been pushing myself to overcome a lack of performance and self control when tired or drowsy, and I'm learning stay focused and alert. Being able to do this naturally has an advantage over relying on caffine, because you can begin it right when you wake up.
On January 04 2012 11:51 TheSasquatch wrote: Drink a huge glass of water before you go to bed. Your bladder will make you get out of bed in the morning.
Or wake you up in the middle of the night
I wake up off of feel, I dunno how it works, but my body just wakes me up at around 8:00 am every morning. I hate using alarms.
See that's the thing with me, I used to never need an alarm either, I woke up at 7:00 every morning on the minute without an alarm but then as soon as I started working during summer a few years back I started relying on alarms and I have never broken that habit. At the same time, when I wake up to an alarm I always feel groggy and tired but when I used to be able to wake up on my own, I would feel fully rested. I think part of it is I stay up too late on my laptop. I've cut that out now and started reading instead so hopefully that will help a bunch (I have the whole A Song of Ice and Fire series ordered from Amazon to reinforce this idea, really pumped to read those, I love watching Game of Thrones).
Also, I just looked and finally found a non-awful math-based alarm for my phone so that should help a ton.
Edit: I also used to do an alarm every minute for 10 minutes, but eventually I got lazy/smart enough to just turn them all off after the first one so that ended up failing. The above mentioned odd time intervals is what I used up until a month ago when finals started when I just turned off my alarms and either woke up at 10AM or when my mom or dog nagged me into getting out of bed.
I just get more sleep. If you're so tired you can't physically get up, you need more sleep, whether that is 8, 9, 10+ hours. Either that or you are just realllllllly undisciplined and unwilling to take responsibility for your actions.
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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Why would you warn him for this answer?! That's what I do and it works for me. I usually need 7 hours of sleep durking work days to be refreshed. When I sleep less, I have red eyes for the whole morning (that is usually the first two lectures at university) Note: I wear contact lenses, so the red eyes wont go away completely for the rest of the day.
Also I have experienced the fact, that I am more refreshed and on spot of things in the morning, when I immediately stand up when my clock goes off and immediatelly shower than waiting for some snooze cycles from my alarm clock and then shower.
My ringtone on my phone is super, super cheesy so I have to get up a little bit to turn it off so no one in my house hears it. Usually I just lay in my bed for a couple of minutes and then get up. Don't ask me how I know when to get up, but I just do after feeling I've rested enough.
Best way though, is to just get a ton of sleep. You will always be able to get out of bed. Remember it requires more effort to get in bed early than getting out of bed. It sucks you lose like a few hours of your day everyday sleeping early (I know I just got out of college and it's hard to not play a few extra hours on your favorite game), but you will thank yourself in the morning.
Also I read somewhere that even the minimum number of hours is 8 no matter what age you are. I know someone that is 65 years old and sleeps 13+ hours a day.
I take out the snooze button itself, at the same time I make the batteries easily removable as well. It takes more effort to take out the battery than hitting a button after all.
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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You were warned for this? Really? Am I being trolled?
Honestly OP, just put your alarm clock out of reach so you have to get up. Or you can set multiple alarms 1 minute apart so you are so annoyed you end up getting up...(That's what I do)
sometimes i turn it off without even remembering it. so i've moved it farther away from me so i have to get up to turn it off. then once i'm up i'm all jazzed up and ready to go steal some ladder points.
i really can't see how you have a problem after you have stood up on your feet. do some jumping jacks or push ups or something! if you conscious you have no excuse :D
When my alarm rings I just get up . Its hard but I do it. Never use the snooze button personally as I just find it a waste of time to lay there waiting for it to go off again lol.
usually the latest mobilephones etc have the feature of voice-recorsing.
so grab you mobile, start record and play the "spawn more overlord / additional supply depots required / you must construct additional pylons" for the first wave. not awake yet ? go over to "our drones are under attack" (or correpsonding warning for your race) sleeping like a bear in hibernation ? go for "nuclear launch detected ... and you have no detection" hope you are awake now ... if not well get the day9-scream and that should do too
ofc, you could just increase the amount of alarmclocks, my roommate is using 3 ... which is pretty BS for me, because i have to get up after him usually ...
A friend of mine wired an alarm clock to a blender and then put something valuable of his in the blender. Then he put the blender in his garage, with the alarm clock attached to the blender set to go off 10 minutes after the alarm clock in his room. That way you wake up with the knowledge that if you don't get out of bed within a few minutes you will lose whatever valuable thing you left in the blender.
Pretty cool I thought. I think you can get alarm clocks which shred money online if you don't have the skills or time to wire up a blender to a clock :D
On January 04 2012 13:22 Swede wrote: A friend of mine wired an alarm clock to a blender and then put something valuable of his in the blender. Then he put the blender in his garage, with the alarm clock attached to the blender set to go off 10 minutes after the alarm clock in his room. That way you wake up with the knowledge that if you don't get out of bed within a few minutes you will lose whatever valuable thing you left in the blender.
Pretty cool I thought. I think you can get alarm clocks which shred money online if you don't have the skills or time to wire up a blender to a clock :D
that's sick... this would work 100% if the thing getting blended is just valuable enough to you!
I used to have this problem - it just kind of dissipated over a period of time. I was feeling really lazy and just hit that snooze and go right back to sleep >.< I now wake up right when the alarm rings, no problems, I don't know - maybe my willpower teched :> I wish you the best of luck combating this issue - it's a real pain to deal with. Just make sure you get enough sleep though.
Why do so many people have trouble understanding that someone was warned for making a 5 word suggestion that the OP clearly already tried? Not reading the OP before responding and then making a post that's rendered useless is worthy of a warning on a first offense.
This has even been discussed in the thread multiple times already. I edited the original offending post to be infinitely clear.
No it is not a bad suggestion and I do the same thing with my alarm clock.
I have a cycle that kind of works. Basically I set alarms at 10-30 minute intervals leading up to when I get up. Earlier times have larger intervals between. For example if I need to wake up at 9am I'll set 7:30am 8:30am 8:45am 8:55am Or something similar. I then set several alarms surrounding the time when I want to wake 8:59am 9:00am 9:01am 9:02am
On January 04 2012 13:18 Kinetik_Inferno wrote: You buy this:
could put in a spoiler that explains what it is flying alarm clock?
This piece of shit's snooze button flies across the room. To stop this annoying piece of shit (I had this for a month btw) you wake the hell up, you catch the annoying SoB that's probably flown across the room and you jam it back into the clock.
On weekdays; I have to get up for work. If I don't I'll miss the train and be in a lot of trouble. Plus I've adjusted my sleep cycle so that I begin to feel sleepy at 11pm and wake up naturally about thirty minutes before my alarm clock at 7am.
On the weekend: Personally, I feel like it's such a waste to lie in bed all day when I could be getting all the things I need to do (laundry, cleaning, hoovering etc.) finished as early as possible. This allows me to spend the rest of the day either going out or chilling at home. I usually get up no later than 8am on Saturday and Sunday.
I have the exact same problem as you and still haven't solved it, but if I really need to wake up this is what I do and it works 100% of the time.
Put a can of highly caffeinated drink (500ml Monster/RedBull whatever) next to your bed.
When the alarm goes off, open the can and skull it as fast as you can.
You get this feeling of a tidal wave of energy going to your head and you will feel really awake, even if you go back to bed, you won't sleep and will naturally just get up.
I put my alarm in the bathroom so I have to get up to turn it off. By then I figure I might as well shower since I put the effort into walking across the house...
Have you considered trying this awesome app called Sleep Cycle? I have it on my iphone. it basically detects how much movement you make to judge if you're in a deep sleep, light sleep or you are awake. It will attempt to wake you up when you're near light sleep. This is because going from deep sleep directly to waking up feels really uncomfortable. You have to set a period of time (default is 30mins) in which it has to wake you up since it has to judge when you are in the lightest form of sleep. It works at least 80% of the time for me. It's an awesome feeling since they don't need to use a loud alarm. I generally wake up to the soothing piano piece Gymnopedie totally refreshed and awake :D
I scanned over the thread briefly but didn't see this posted already. If it has been, I apologize.
Right now you are in the habit of hitting snooze and going back to bed. Because you are tired when you first wake-up it is nearly impossible to think rationally, and thus difficult to break this habit even if you get more sleep. Instead try forming a new habit while you are awake. "Practice" waking up the night before; set your alarm for 2 minutes, lay in bed in a dark room and then when you alarm goes off get up, turn it off and then go to the bathroom. It sounds crazy but it worked exceptionally well for me.
When my alarm wakes me up, I think about drinking coffee and browsing team liquid and it gets me pumped to wake up. Seriously though just plan something enjoyable for the first thing in the morning, and you'll look forward to it and won't want to sleep.
My problem is that I normally need something to look at from bed until I feel like actually getting up, so I wrote a program that opens specified live streams at a specified time. It hasn't helped a great deal, but it's nice
This is interesting. With all the little sleep I've been getting, I've been developing new ways to wake up.
First of all, I try to mix things up. I use more than 1 alarm. I can use my digital clock alarm, my cell phone, my mp3 player, or a combination of them.
I've found that, at least for me, it's easier (and more comfortable) to wake up with a relaxing song/music rather than one that is fast or epic. The contrast between sleeping and fast paced music makes it uncomfortable listening to it. However, sometimes I do wake up when I hear faster louder music... I guess it depends, like how long have you known that particular song? If it's new I find it easier to wake up too, especially if you tell yourself the night before something like "I like this song, it's epic, I will wake up when I hear it"
Another technique I use is putting my alarms in different/new places. Try to pick places that make you THINK when you want to turn it off. Force yourself to look around if you have to. It shouldn't be in reach where you can easily get back in bed. It also should not be somewhere that is familiar. When you put your alarm under a tshirt on a table for example, do not think about it too much when you actually do it. Put it there quickly and think of something else as you go to sleep, or else you won't have to think as much when you wake up. When you wake up and have to think about where the alarm is, it gets your brain moving.
On January 04 2012 09:46 ugapa wrote: put it away from reaching distance
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I don't understand why he is warned?
It looks like he didn't read the OP. If you had looked more closely, you too could have realized this. The power is yours.
Not sure why you think so Micronesia. The OP never says whether his alarm clock is bedside or across the room somewhere. It's pretty good advice. Btw, I do what you do. My cell phone alarm goes off by my bed and 2 minutes later my digital clock across the room goes off and gets me up for real if the first didn't do the trick.
You and shallow[sillygoose] did not read the OP carefully enough.
he asked what people do and the guy replied!
not his fault that he can't drag himself out of bed imo although i'm notorious for sleeping through half a day of class because i can hit the snooze button in my sleep so i can't really talk
lol @ people failing to read both the OP and the thread...
Regarding the OP, the problem is not the alarm method, it's that you're trying to wake yourself at a time when your body's biological clock is promoting sleep. If you regularly go to bed at 2am, your body will adjust to that time. Trying to wake up before 10am will be difficult, and there will be a strong tendency to snooze or ignore the alarm. Louder or more elaborate alarms aren't going to fix the underlying problem, which is that your circadian clock is entrained to a late bedtime. If you want to be able to get up at 9am, you need to be regularly getting to bed by 1am, and avoiding light exposure in the hour or two before bed. Bright light in the morning will also help to advance your circadian clock to an earlier time, so you could try going for morning walks or runs.
It really is just forcing yourself to get up. Sometimes I do a countdown to get out of bed and unfortunately it still fails here and there. One thing I would recommend though is getting up a couple hours before work/school whatever. I find that I do much better at my job if I have been up for a little while, whereas if I just got up and left I feel kind of shitty all day.
Sleepyti.me is a bedtime calculator that can help you calculate when to fall asleep. By counting backwards in sleep cycles, sleepyti.me has the ability to help you wake up refreshed, instead of feeling groggy. Sleepyti.me can also help you figure out what time to set your alarm if you are going to sleep at that moment.
This is what I use now, it's pretty much the greatest invention ever.
If you use a smart phone to wake up you could always set the alarm to one of your favorite songs so while you wake up and get ready you can jam and sing along with your music. I dont know if it is possible but i always wanted to try and have my alarm clock play a mp3 of a funny stand up, i find it more pleasant to wake up from laughter.
Sleepyti.me is a bedtime calculator that can help you calculate when to fall asleep. By counting backwards in sleep cycles, sleepyti.me has the ability to help you wake up refreshed, instead of feeling groggy. Sleepyti.me can also help you figure out what time to set your alarm if you are going to sleep at that moment.
This is what I use now, it's pretty much the greatest invention ever.
Unfortunately, there's no real basis to these "90-minute" planners. The REM/NREM cycle's period varies greatly between and within individuals (from around 90-120 minutes). There's also a huge amount of variability in how long it takes to fall asleep, and how long you will spend awake during the night, both of which affect the timing of sleep cycles. It's therefore impossible to accurately predict when someone will end a sleep cycle, without directly monitoring their sleep (which some devices now do).
imagine it like this: your alarm clock is now a hot girl and she is sucking your #*#% to wake you up. Would you slap her in the face to stop what she is doing so you could go back to sleep?
alamr clock in my opinion should be enjoyable. My uncle used to do this trick on me when i used to live with him where he just gona leave the radio or his fav CD on at medium volume. Eventually i will wake up by the song coming out from the stereos.
Now there is a huge flaw to this: what if you really enjoy the music and sleep anyway? Well its about responsibility right? a high school student might skip his classes for sleep but no fucking way he would skip his final exam. You should find away to remind yourself of your responsibility therefore wake yourself up using will power. Not too hard really.
Sleepyti.me is a bedtime calculator that can help you calculate when to fall asleep. By counting backwards in sleep cycles, sleepyti.me has the ability to help you wake up refreshed, instead of feeling groggy. Sleepyti.me can also help you figure out what time to set your alarm if you are going to sleep at that moment.
This is what I use now, it's pretty much the greatest invention ever.
Unfortunately, there's no real basis to these "90-minute" planners. The REM/NREM cycle's period varies greatly between and within individuals (from around 90-120 minutes). There's also a huge amount of variability in how long it takes to fall asleep, and how long you will spend awake during the night, both of which affect the timing of sleep cycles. It's therefore impossible to accurately predict when someone will end a sleep cycle, without directly monitoring their sleep (which some devices now do).
I remember reading somewhere that everyone has differently timed sleep cycles; I find that I'm most refreshed with either 4 hours of sleep or somewhere around 10, anything in between just leaves me tired anyways so I use sleepytime to optimize as much as I can
You could try reproducing. I haven't used my alarm clock since my daughter was born. Little kids don't have snooze buttons, and they tend to wake up pretty early.
How do you deal with feeling tired all day if you go to bed at 2AM, Fall asleep at 3AM and wake up at 10-11AM?? I usually feel sickly if I don't sleep until 12-1 when I go to bed late.
On January 04 2012 19:17 AmericanUmlaut wrote: You could try reproducing. I haven't used my alarm clock since my daughter was born. Little kids don't have snooze buttons, and they tend to wake up pretty early.
Imagine your parents telling you one day that the only reason they decided to have you was so that your father could use you as his new alarm clock so that he didn't have to get out of bed out of his own will
I sleep through alarm clocks. Doesn't matter how loud or what noise. I sleep until I wake up, I tend to go to bed early if I can. There's the old drink 8 glasses of water before bed trick though, that never fails to wake me up!
I am convinced i sleepwalk when my alarm goes off , and i deactivate all 4 of my alarms.
so i decided to get creative : Google it : D There are tons of awesome and cheap alarm clocks. I personally bought the Shape up alarm clock ... it looks like a small weight and you have to lift it 30 times for it to stop ringing..that should wake me up..
I also bought an app called Freaky Alarm (iPhone) in which i can control<<How much i want to get up>>, and according to what i choose i get math problems of higher and higher difficulty :D (not hard , at all just something to fire up my brain in the morning )
I am a HEAVY sleeper. I'm certain you could drop a bomb in my yard, and I'd sleep through it.
Tip 1) Set 2-3 alarms, spread 15mins apart. First alarm so you know its time to get up, second and third to piss you off/keep you up while you're trying to fall back asleep.
If that fails
Tip 2) Drinking a cup of water before bed will get you up :p
lol from what u can see on the teamliquid little tittle, it looked like the good old "turn off" i thought it was gonna be about girls and sexuality lol opps
And on the dresser is the alarm clock... the distance is literally cross-room, forcing myself to get out of bed just to turn it off... then i proceed to get clothes and take a shower immediately (since my door is right next to the dresser)
I snooze for an hour and barely manage to force myself out of bed. The problem with this is that I use my phone as an alarm and often press the turn off button instead of the snooze and its gg nn. The screen tells me which button is which but I'm so tired I can't read it no matter what, its like the letter jump around forming random words! Sometimes I get mad at it thinking its insulting me!! Its like I'm so tired I'm not even concious and barely remember any of it after an hour.
I have this problem too. That being said, it's all about Routine. (Of which, I have very little - go being a University student)
What has worked decently for me was having an alarm clock on my phone that had a snooze button. I usually set the alarm about 30 minutes before when I "have" to get up, and then I wack at it a few times. Usually what ends up happening is I'll get up 45 minutes after that, and rush through my morning, but I'll manage to be on time for what I need to do.
If you can get into a routine and a sleep cycle your body can adjust to, you'll be golden though. Quality of sleep will improve as well.
LOL 2am and u wake up 12 afternoon jeez dude 10 hours sleep is alot and i LOVE my sleep aswell!
I cant beleive putting alarm clock other side of your room didnt work! Worked for me, but i have the unbeatable alarm clock...My mum/dad LOL, they just hurl abuse at me switch my light on at 8am so im up for work everyday! When there on holiday im normally home alone so i do set an alarm then but i seem to have no problem then!
Tip, put alarm on your TV too or get an Alarm radio? And if your on your own, or when u wake up everyone else is up/not there put the volume really loud so when it goes off its stupidly loud and "frightens" you awake something like that.
I sleep with my clothes on which makes getting out of bed really easy.
Then I just do the morning things before the shower in the clothes from yesterday, and just put on new ones after the shower (Showering is last on my morning schedule)
Then i'll put 1 alarm clock (power point one) on one side, and the mobile phone one on the other. I'll put the mobile phone one under a bag or something so I have to move more to turn it off (which wakes me up).
If I don't wake up to my alarm clock, I don't make it in time for lectures. I have to get up therefore I do. I usually feel shit for about an hour then it's fine
I can only talk for myself here, but for me to get up I need motivation. I need some reason to get up - or it's just not gonna happen until the laws of quantum physics (more specifically the Feynman path integral) makes my entire body suddenly appear out of bed. Movitation for me doesn't just come from within. It comes from real tasks or meetings I must do. For me the most effective one is work.
I set four different alarms, all with some form of snooze function and with different starting times. That way it becomes too much of a hassle to turn all of them off. Also alarms that wake you up gently is preferable, the ones that slowly starts to light up works well unless you are really tired.
If you aren't motivated to get up, nothing will get you up. In my student days I would sleep over my alarm without even bothering to snooze. My brain would just ignore the obnoxious loud BEEPs. Right now If I don't get up I get fired, I usually wake up just minutes before the alarm actually goes off.
I have an alarm clock that goes off every 8 minutes if you hit the snooze button, there is a way to turn it off, but it's complicated enough that I can't do it in my sleep, and it involves getting a code randomly generated by my computer, which is in another room, and the front page of the paper (outside on the front step).
Going to sleep earlier can help a lot, I've found that I need around 10(ten) hours of sleep every night, so if I go to sleep at midnight I can be up and fully functional at around 10am.
Food helps as well, if you create a morning routine that involves eating some tasty breakfast (bacon omlette and coffee for myself) you'll be looking forward to getting to the nomz, and thinking less about how nice and warm your bed is.
If you're more old-fashioned and have access to twine, and old wire coat-hanger, a small bucket (a mixing bowl will work in a pinch), and an average brick, then you can create an extremely effective alarm. Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for any damage to person(s) or property caused by suggested device, it was the cat.
I've been sleeping from 8am to 6pm for the past 2 weeks, so you probably shouldn't take my advice on anything sleep related.
Thought you might find this interesting. Reading the thread made me wonder how many people might suffer from this and not know it and if it might be more prevalent in the gaming community. Many posting seem to have at least some of the symptoms.
I have to set multiple alarms on my phone and a clock across the room on my desk. (and I still sleep walk and turn them off most of the time)
Some days if I have something important I want or need to do I don't sleep at all because I know I won't be able to get up in the morning.
7:00 am here now think its time for bed Hopefully not too many typos but I've been up all night....
" "They often have asked family members to help wake them in the morning, or they have used several alarm clocks." "
One thing people fail to consider in this whole "alarm clock" situation is habit. Let's face it, you sleep 3am and set the alarm at 5am, 9 out of 10 times you're gonna miss it. Waking up is a habit, a routine. What you do before you sleep is a good indicator of how and when you wake up. In short, try to get a sufficient time between sleep and waking up.
If you can't, ad that is what the alarm is practically for, then it is all about will to power. A million alarm clocks all over the house will do nothing if your mind and body is not ready to awaken yet.
I used to use my phone and a generic alarm for waking up, but over time I got used to the sound and learned to ignore it. I now use this which hasn't failed me yet.
You just have to will yourself to get up when you hear it. Set a challenge to yourself that you HAVE to wake up at the first sound. Try convincing yourself it's a matter of life and death or make up a story in your head that someone you love is going to die if you don't get up. A tad over the top maybe, but it could work.
If you can get used to it, you can train your body to only require a certain amount of sleep thus negating the use of alarms all together. During my 2rd year of uni, I forced myself to sleep only exactly 6 hours every night for around 2 months. Afterwards I automatically woke up after 6 hours of sleep regardless of how tired I was or when I went to bed. It's now ingrained in my body and I feel well rested and energetic for the whole day after my 6 hours of sleep.
I have to think of things that motivate me to wake up, for me, funny enough, it's like "I get to see that really cute blonde again in class" or "If I don't go I will get shit score on my test" or even think of food "good food..."
The solution is simple: place your alarm clock across the room, so you're forced to get out of bed and walk over to turn it off. The hardest part is getting out of bed, this is ez solution. I used to have the same problem when I slept right next to it. Sometimes I'd wake up hours later and not remember turning it off
On January 04 2012 11:51 TheSasquatch wrote: Drink a huge glass of water before you go to bed. Your bladder will make you get out of bed in the morning.
Ooooh you might think that. I drink quite a lot of water all the time and i always have to pee like crazy in the morning. But when i'm in bed trying not to wake up i can hold it in almost indefinitely. When i am up though i feel like exploding.
Get an alarm that gradually increases in volume, I has the same problem as the OP till I started using my Droid's alarm, which increases in volume over a minute. if you wake up more gently its easier to wake up, getting startled out of bed is not the best way IMO.
I was reading about funny alarm clocks, I thought they would actually be pretty useful for me, since I always hit the snooze button if I know I have nothing to do that morning. I would get the alarm clock with the wheels that run away from you when you chase down the snooze button.
When i know i have to get up i spend about 5 minuets lying in my bed then i quickly sit upright. My room mate thinks im weird but its really the best way to wake up because once you sit up right your awake.
I'm usually good at waking up but man it's hard to adjust back to regular schedule after the holiday D= I've been yawning for the past 3 hours at work.
For me, the only thing that worked was getting an alarm clock ring that didn't annoy the hell out of me. As ironic as it seems, I picked extremely relaxing music to wake me up. It's still loud enough to wake me up, but it doesn't seem like you're banging pots and pans and screaming at me.
Second, there's an app (sadly only for the iPhone) that uses your movement to wake you up in the lightest stage of sleep within a half hour window. It really does work. It's so much easier to wake up.
My suggestion for an alarm clock tone? Emancipator's album "Soon It Will Be Cold Enough to Build Fires" My favorite songs to wake up to are "Lionheart", "Eve", "Maps." But I'd say look into it. Classical music is also an option, if you're into that.
I think I'm just going to set up an actual alarm clock instead of using my cell phone, because having the phone right beside bed with 2 little buttons that I can't read when I first wake up is not helping.
In the summer its not bad, since i usually sleep less. In the winter its hard. Its cold and the street lamps are still on. English weather ftw? You could try using new/less comfortable beddings. Right now im not used to my bed so i get out much more easily.
Basically when the alarm goes off, it spins the propeller and launches it up (or across the room if you set it at an angle) - The noise only stops once you replace the propeller, which is pretty fiddly when you just wake up. By the time I do it I am usually awake and alert enough to stay up!
My brother gave me this alarm clock to xmas: Pretty anoying thing i must say and (said in the instructions) goes up to 113db. If I don't wake up by that or will insta-snooze it, my neighbours will throw me out of my bed at least :D
Will power and multiple alarms across my house / room.. I have 2 cell phones and an ipod set 3 minutes apart scattered throughout my room, onlinealarmclock and one on my radio. Makes me walk around the house to turn them all off and hopefully by then the willpower kicks in.
Unless I'm feeling bad I actually want to get up in the morning. So there's no real temptation to go back to sleep. And I barely use an alarm anyways, my phone plays biosphere at 7am every morning. It does wake me but I'm often awake before it starts playing anyways.
I would want to stay in bed if I didn't care about what I would be doing that day. I know, I used to not care. Apathy sucks.
You should get One of those math-alarmclock apps, presumed that you have an android phone ofc. I've got a friend who uses it. He says it's horrible, but it gets him up.
The best way to wake up is to wake up thinking you're running late. The jolt of shock will wake you up properly. An idea would be to set the alarm clock late in the first place. I wish to some day create an alarm clock that would go off at some approximate time and display an approximate time, meaning that you can't rely on a snooze button and just have to get up.
I have an alarm clock that lights up towards the time of alarm, which I like since I didn't like to have to put the light on in a nice dark room. Now it's light before I realize it. I still sometimes like to press snooze a bit too much. Oh, funny thing too, on my alarm clock, if it has been beeping for a long time without me turning it off or on snooze, I can't put it on snooze anymore (with the logic that 'this guy must be really sleepy still)
Some research suggests that you should always sleep if you can. There's no such thing as sleeping too much. If you're tired when your alarm goes off and you don't actually need to get up for anything, you should probably stop setting an alarm and just sleep until you wake up naturally. You'll sleep a lot at first, but then you'll pay back your "sleep debt", need sleep less and feel better. Look up "sleep debt" on PsycINFO or pubmed.gov. It's not the most conclusive research yet, but it's still something interesting to consider.
This is coming from a guy who slept for 19 hours straight a couple of weeks ago. (Maybe that's why you can sleep 12 hours and still feel tired...because you actually needed 15+ hours!)
There is one thing unclear to me : do you actually work or something? If you need to be at work at a certain time, you either let someone wake you (best one) or you put so much stuff on alarm that you basically don't fall asleep. If you need to be somewhere you need to be somewhere, and it is always gonna feel SUCK if you have to wake yourself for it.
As for during vacation : if you go to sleep at 2:00 and wake up at 12, why are you putting a alarm? 'I've wasted my day' is based on absolutely nothing, because you are awake just as much as any other person. about 10 hrs sleep seems ok. The myth of 'I wasted my day if I didn't get up at 8' is for old people, are you old?
I will take myself as example : when I got classes during the year I just get up on the hours I need to go (I got 2 days where I need to get up early, rest I can sleep longer). Actually I spend MORE HOURS awake than anyone else because on the days I need to get up early I still stay up till very late. You could say I 'waste less day' than other people. (I cannot sleep early due to gradual setting of my biological clock). And during the days I don't need to get up early I just sleep till I had enough sleep, and wake up automatically. I would love to never ever have to use a clock or anything 'time' again, but due to the society we live in we got no other choice (because other people DO use clocks )
AND DURING VACATIONS : turn off your clocks, not only your alarms! once you get used to living with no reference of time you will feel a lot more at ease
TLDR; during work days : just get the fuck up, if you need to be somewhere you just dont deactivate your alarm during vacations : why are you even using any time reference? just live as you see fit, with no clocks
Pick a time, say 7:00 PM, after which you don't eat. You'll wake up hungry, and that will override your desire to stay warm.
Make sure your routine guarantees you wake up hungry - I mean starving - even if that means you go to bed hungry. If your willpower is stronger during the evening then this will work for you.
You know that feeling you get about wasting your whole day? Yeah, I used to get that too. Until one day I decided I was going to stop being a loser and just get the hell up when my alarm clock goes off.
This always happens to me at school when I have 8am classes. It's an awful habit but if you don't have a roommate or don't care about waking your roommate up, I'd suggest moving your alarm clock to a position where it requires you to physically get out of bed in order to turn it off. I don't do this though, haha, and instead just try to will myself out of bed.
No, it doesn't work. If I put my alarm clock that far away, I just don't wake up from it.
And when I put it right beside my bed, I put it off in my sleep. I never even remember turning the alarm clock off.
I am thinking about using my 10 year old computer as an alarm clock. I will put speakers on it that will blast at HIGH volume when it's time. To turn them off, I have to solve an easy chess puzzle (but just hard enough for a sleeping brain, so I HAVE to wake up). Ofcourse I put my speakers somewhere where I can't just turn off the volume knob.
On January 04 2012 09:43 Lmui wrote: The snooze button is the way to go. 8 minute intervals is usually enough that I can wake up by the 3rd or 4th alarm.
After reading this thread I guess I can call myself lucky that I just get up and go when I hear the alarm clock? No matter how many hours of sleep I had before, that high pitched annoying sound always ALWAYS makes me wide awake.
You use 7 alarm clocks, positioned in strategic locations around your room, all out of reach of you from your bed. Each goes off about 5-10 minutes after the previous one. This has worked well for me
1.) Learn to snooze button -Get in the habit of snoozing your clock instead of shutting it off. It has the same effect and it will not shut the alarm OFF, so it can be ready to bug you again in ~5 minutes.
2.) set multiple alarms -I use my phone for an alarm clock and set either 2 or 3 seperate alarms. If I manage to turn off one there is another to keep going, and so on.
3.) set alarms within short intervals of each other -if you set alarms within short intervals, say 3-4 minutes, then they go off more often than one alarm at "x" time + snooze or another alarm at a different time + snooze. The smaller amount of time between alarms allows less time for relaxation between stimuli as well and will serve to annoy you awake over time rather than one jarring awakening and then nothing. My alarms have 5 minute snooze periods, so I set them within 4 minutes of each other; this means if I snooze the first alarm there's only one minute between the next 2 rings. It allows for little time to fall back asleep, that's for sure.
optional.) pick something that makes a less annoying sound to wake you -Personally I hate the sound of alarms so much I will usually throw or otherwise beat my normal clock up when it begins blaring. Instead of something like a banshee-wailing klaxxon, with my phone I can set custom rings and I pick music that I like. This is a way to trick me into waking up; by wanting to listen to the song and follow along in my head, I have to become more alert and pay attention to it, so I wake up faster than normal if I let it run for a bit. If you do this you may want to pick a song you are not overly fond of, because in time you can be conditioned to react in exactly the same way to that music as a normal alarm and you might end up despising the music for it!
I have also used just vibration and setting the phone near me on the bed, which more or less worked the same for a while (may not help deep sleepers much) and setting my fan/tv on a timer to turn off/on. The change in stimuli often arouses me with a "WTF happened?" attitude trying to figure out why I just woke up, but it works.
On January 05 2012 07:18 Ghost151 wrote: 1.) Learn to snooze button -Get in the habit of snoozing your clock instead of shutting it off. It has the same effect and it will not shut the alarm OFF, so it can be ready to bug you again in ~5 minutes.
2.) set multiple alarms -I use my phone for an alarm clock and set either 2 or 3 seperate alarms. If I manage to turn off one there is another to keep going, and so on.
3.) set alarms within short intervals of each other -if you set alarms within short intervals, say 3-4 minutes, then they go off more often than one alarm at "x" time + snooze or another alarm at a different time + snooze. The smaller amount of time between alarms allows less time for relaxation between stimuli as well and will serve to annoy you awake over time rather than one jarring awakening and then nothing. My alarms have 5 minute snooze periods, so I set them within 4 minutes of each other; this means if I snooze the first alarm there's only one minute between the next 2 rings. It allows for little time to fall back asleep, that's for sure.
optional.) pick something that makes a less annoying sound to wake you -Personally I hate the sound of alarms so much I will usually throw or otherwise beat my normal clock up when it begins blaring. Instead of something like a banshee-wailing klaxxon, with my phone I can set custom rings and I pick music that I like. This is a way to trick me into waking up; by wanting to listen to the song and follow along in my head, I have to become more alert and pay attention to it, so I wake up faster than normal if I let it run for a bit. If you do this you may want to pick a song you are not overly fond of, because in time you can be conditioned to react in exactly the same way to that music as a normal alarm and you might end up despising the music for it!
I have also used just vibration and setting the phone near me on the bed, which more or less worked the same for a while (may not help deep sleepers much) and setting my fan/tv on a timer to turn off/on. The change in stimuli often arouses me with a "WTF happened?" attitude trying to figure out why I just woke up, but it works.
I use the snooze button with intervals of 3 to 5 minutes for an hour long. I do this with 10 different alarm clocks on my mobile (it's the maximum). I tried all sorts of different musical genres (I tried reggae, death metal, classical music, smooth jazz, etc...). I tried the vibration setting. Nothing worked. Almost every day I just turn off the alarm clocks in my sleep. I never remember doing it.
Back when I was a child, my mom could just use the vacuum cleaner in my room while I was sleeping. I never woke up from it. I guess I have some serious issues.
i think the best advice i've heard is to just let the alarm ring until you are out of your drowsy state; for me, i'd say anymore than 2 minutes of constant noise would bother me enough to get me out of my sheets.
comaduck's suggestion is interesting, too. i'm definitely going to try that.
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On January 04 2012 10:11 ComaDuck wrote: I found a position which I'm not good at sleeping in, and when my alarm goes off I instantly go to it. For me it's putting my knees up. As soon as my alarm goes off I pull my legs back so my knees are up and for some reason I just don't go back to sleep.
I've had an alarm clock on my cellphone with captchas, in this case with 3 simple math questions. I could tweak it to another type of problem, or even specify how many captchas I had to answer, but those were usually enough to become a tad more aware and escape the urge to stay.
I basically have to say to myself every day "Don't be such a pussy, just go to work like a man"
Or if it's the weekend, like it sounds like your case is, I set goals a lot kind of like "I need to be at the skatepark by 3 oclock" or "I want to play 10 games of sc2 by 1pm"
On January 05 2012 10:56 Incze wrote: The way I do it is I just put my phone on the other side of the room so by the time i get to it to stop the damn thing I'm already wide awake. Try it
I did. I never woke up from it, because it was too far away to hear it.
I overslept for my job for like 4 years. Luckily I had a cool boss.
Anyway, the only thing that works for me is having a routine....You also need a reason to wake up so maybe take a walk every morning, eat icecream, jump on a trampoline.. whatever works 4 u
I also use a medicine called melatonina.. I think its a sleep hormone that is useful if you dont get too much sunlight
On January 05 2012 11:11 nymfaw wrote: I overslept for my job for like 4 years. Luckily I had a cool boss.
Anyway, the only thing that works for me is having a routine....You also need a reason to wake up so maybe take a walk every morning, eat icecream, jump on a trampoline.. whatever works 4 u
I also use a medicine called melatonina.. I think its a sleep hormone that is useful if you dont get too much sunlight
Melatonin is the chemical that makes you feel tired and want to go to sleep.
On January 05 2012 07:41 Thorakh wrote: I don't have an alarm clock. I just wake up when I need to. Pretty neat.
so jealous of your genetics
i have felt like i'm on heroin every time i wake up since middle school. for a decade i have never been able to get up/function early, as soon as i graduated from HS i just slept thru morning shit and sighhh
It's hard when you don't have something important to wake up to. When I have a test that morning, it just seems so easy to wake up (which is how I found out). So you just have to think of it as something important to do.
GSL helped me with it aswell, I slept around 3/4AM and woke up at 10AM to watch Tastosis :D
Also, even if you don't have anything important, making a it a habbit works aswell (waking up early)
You need 8 hours of sleep to wake up feeling rested. Try to plan your sleep schedule ahead and don't stay up too late. Also, once you get in a habit of waking up at a certain time, I find that it becomes natural to wake up at that time even when the alarm isn't set.
I can get up, turn off the alarm, have some food, say hello to flatmates, accidentally sit on my bed at any given point and I will wake up 8 hours later. I can also happily sleep for 12-14 hours per day. As well turn complicated alarms off and have full conversations while I am asleep.
I try putting it far away, but I can get up and turn it off in my sleep quite effectively too, and living in a dorm room while being 188cm means that no place is too far to fall back into bed. I don't want to leave my computer + 5.1 speakers on all night as that is just retarded, as well as loud. I do like the suggestion of warming the room before you go to sleep, however it might wake me up before I am supposed to.
I find that using my phone which has to be unlocked while playing some rammstein or such does the job more often than not.
On January 05 2012 10:56 Incze wrote: The way I do it is I just put my phone on the other side of the room so by the time i get to it to stop the damn thing I'm already wide awake. Try it
I did. I never woke up from it, because it was too far away to hear it.
How about getting a reason to actuallly get up? I have no problem waking up for school/work/appointments, even if got pissdrunk the night before and slept for only 3 hours. However, if I dont have anything special to do i say fuck the world and keep sleeping...
I use a series of alarms on my clock and cell phone to get me up in the morning. I NEED to be out of bed by 8, so my first alarm hits at 7:05, next is 7:15, 7:20, 7:30, 7:40, 7:50, and two separate alarms for 8. when my cell phone (one of the 8 o'clock ones) goes off I KNOW I have to get out of bed and I am already semi-awake anyway so it's not as bad. the snooze button is your friend (when compared to turning your alarm off completely)
On January 06 2012 05:57 B.I.G. wrote: How about getting a reason to actuallly get up? I have no problem waking up for school/work/appointments, even if got pissdrunk the night before and slept for only 3 hours. However, if I dont have anything special to do i say fuck the world and keep sleeping...
I second this guy. I have a job so I have to get up, I exist on about 6 hours sleep a night monday-friday. However when I was at uni I was probably on double that and couldn't wake up for shit. Have a reason to get up!
Same thing as ishboh kinda. 3 different devices (normal alarm clock, 2 cell phones). Each of the Cell phones with 4 alarms each (takes 1 second to turn them all on) in an alternating fashion with prime numbers between the times and different snooze/repeat timers, placed at different positions in the room.
Radio alarm comes first, because it's the closest to the bed (can reach it without standing up) and the least annoying. Then my iPhone which is placed out of reach with the default alarm sound (i hate it! which is good). And finally my old company phone, some sony ericcson thing, without even a sim-card, that is _really_ loud. Never failed to wake up to this if I got more than 3 hours of sleep.
Then depending on how important it is to get up, I skip some of the phones or alarms. If I have no appointments at all, the sony one will stay off for sure. ;-) Mostly the iphone or the normal alarm clock get me up.
In general it is recommendable to just sleep long enough, but most people can not afford or acoomodate to that. =/
Ah and one more thing: For the last 3 years of school (man that's 8-10 years ago O_O) I switched to another school which was ~45 km away, so I needed to get up at 5:30 to arrive at 8:00. Since I am a night owl, I can not sleep before 00:00, so I rarely got more than 5 hours sleep a night those years. It became harder and harder to get up and in the end, I even slept from Friday evening till sunday once. O_O The thing that always got me up at that time was just creating a timer with my PC and a loud song at really loud volume. Always wondered that nobody in the house woke up to it but me, but whatever, it worked awesome. The song was Rhapsody of fire - Emerald Sword, because it has an awesome wake up start ;D
I really liked it before, but I totally can not stand the first minute of it since then.... The rest is fine. ;-)
That's my biggest warning if anyone takes music - for alarms as well as for cell phones: Do not take your favorite songs, you will start to hate them.. =/
Snooze button! I have to find the slider to shut off the alarm for my clock, so I'm obliged to wake up. Since snooze is a giant button on top I usually hit it when I want a extra few minutes of shut-eye.
only thing that works for me is having very important day or putting the alarm clock few meters away and then i kinda have to step up from bed. That doesn't always work but atleast now I actually remember the alarm clock ringing.
Rig it to explode if you push any button that causes it to turn off, or if you pull out the cord. After your hand is bloodied and you have to buy a new one, you'll appreciate the value of not pushing the button. Just leave the room and wait out the buzzing.
In all seriousness, you just need to develop motivation to actually get out of bed, it's simply a matter of will power.
When I was much younger I liked to coon hunt. A lot of nights when my dogs would get away from me I'd end up being out in the woods until really late when I had school the next day.
To help me wake up, I would put a strip of duct tape on my leg and then rip it off like a band aid when my alarm went off.
A flying alarm clock. When it goes off, the rotor spins and propels itself, and the bloody thing won't shut up until you stick the rotor back in. Perhaps the most useful gift I've received in recent years. :D
A flying alarm clock. When it goes off, the rotor spins and propels itself, and the bloody thing won't shut up until you stick the rotor back in. Perhaps the most useful gift I've received in recent years. :D
There's 2 problems I came across, one where I just woke up way past my alarm timer and had no memory of turning it off. And the one where I just didn't want to get up. To counter the first problem I just put my alarm in my lamp hovering over my head so I had to get up in order to reach it, making me fully awake and aware of the situation. To counter the second problem you just have to not think about it and get up instantly when you hear the alarm. If you start thinking about getting up rather than getting up it's already too late, and you are doomed to stay in the bed far too long.
I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
On January 04 2012 14:10 Grouch wrote: Personally waking up is fine for me as long as I'm warm WARMTH IS THE KEY! In my opinion good luck with your future sleeping endeavours.
YES I thought about this too, but going to sleep feels so much better when its cool in the room (but makes getting up so much more difficult), I gotta find a way to make the room warmer as the night goes on xD.
When I used to be really tired because of part time job in early morning plus college, I used to put my alarm (my phone) under my bed right in the middle. That way I had to get out to turn it off !
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
That's quite ignorant.
Thing is people are different. Some have no problems in waking up in the morning others do, it's more than "man the fuck up" it's about how the body/brain works. Just as some need 5h of sleep others need 10h.
Going to bed an hour earlier isn't going to fix it for not-morning people. I'm not a morning person and no matter how much i sleep i still find waking up before 10 to be very hard.
I think it depends a lot on the metabolism. So i guess the only real advice for late-starters is to find a job with a flexible schedule or that doesn't start in the morning .
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
That's quite ignorant.
Thing is people are different. Some have no problems in waking up in the morning others do, it's more than "man the fuck up" it's about how the body/brain works. Just as some need 5h of sleep others need 10h.
Going to bed an hour earlier isn't going to fix it for not-morning people. I'm not a morning person and no matter how much i sleep i still find waking up before 10 to be very hard.
I think it depends a lot on the metabolism. So i guess the only real advice for late-starters is to find a job with a flexible schedule or that doesn't start in the morning .
This guy has no trouble sleeping. There's no such thing is a morning person or a not-morning person. That's just a preference we make. It can change and you can FUCKING GET OVER IT. No matter how hard you think it is to get out of bed and wake yourself the fuck up, it's not hard at all.
Well honestly it just happens because your urge for resting surpasses anything else you might do in the morning. Find something you want to do in the morning more than sleeping in your warm bed and you will start to wake up at the time you want.
what do you do? If you wake up at noon everyday i guess you dont have anything of importance to do like work/school. In that case, its pretty normal to miss the alarm. I think everybody has some kind of internal alarm clock that goes off if you REALLY have to do something. Im not talking about the circadian cycle. For example, its pretty rare for people to miss work, exams, or interviews because of their inability to wake up. Even without alarm clocks alot of people can just wake up pretty much on time for something they consider important.
its psychological, but if you want tips, make sure that you have something to get up for in the morning. I wake up 30 minutes before I have to leave my house for work - that is enough time to shower, shave, dress and have breakfast with no time for anything else so I know when my alarm goes off I NEED to get out of bed, can't stay in there for even a few minutes.
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
That's quite ignorant.
Thing is people are different. Some have no problems in waking up in the morning others do, it's more than "man the fuck up" it's about how the body/brain works. Just as some need 5h of sleep others need 10h.
Going to bed an hour earlier isn't going to fix it for not-morning people. I'm not a morning person and no matter how much i sleep i still find waking up before 10 to be very hard.
I think it depends a lot on the metabolism. So i guess the only real advice for late-starters is to find a job with a flexible schedule or that doesn't start in the morning .
This guy has no trouble sleeping. There's no such thing is a morning person or a not-morning person. That's just a preference we make. It can change and you can FUCKING GET OVER IT. No matter how hard you think it is to get out of bed and wake yourself the fuck up, it's not hard at all.
First world problems.
Yes there is. Just as there is people who can eat a lot and not get any fat and people who will put on fat while barely eating. The metabolism doesn't go the same for everyone.
You'll do it anyway because you must, but doesn't mean it's as easy for everyone and no it's not just psychological.
thats mine, the 4 pieces get catapulted out and the alarm doesent shut off until you put them back in. this is an infernal device and i hate it, i used to hit the snooze button for an hour at least before i got this clock
On January 04 2012 09:44 micronesia wrote: I have one near my bed and one across the room. The one near my bed goes off 5 minutes before the one across the room. They each have a 10 minute snooze cycle. After a couple of cycles I get up :D
A few things to consider:
1) How long after you fall asleep are you setting your alarm for? 2) What is your reason for wanting to be on an earlier schedule?
that's what i do. usually takes about 30-40 min of 'snoozing' for me to get up unless i have something to look forward to that day (highly unlikely).
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
There's this condition called depression. It has nothing to do with manning up. Why would i wake up if i have nothing to look forward to and the only thing i can think of all day is how much life is not worth living. It has nothing to do with what time i go to bet either. I can sleep 16h and still not want to get out of bed. Or sometimes i sleep 3 and go to work. and i'll be 30y old in 3 months.
now grow up and stop making sweeping generalizations.
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
That's quite ignorant.
Thing is people are different. Some have no problems in waking up in the morning others do, it's more than "man the fuck up" it's about how the body/brain works. Just as some need 5h of sleep others need 10h.
Going to bed an hour earlier isn't going to fix it for not-morning people. I'm not a morning person and no matter how much i sleep i still find waking up before 10 to be very hard.
I think it depends a lot on the metabolism. So i guess the only real advice for late-starters is to find a job with a flexible schedule or that doesn't start in the morning .
This guy has no trouble sleeping. There's no such thing is a morning person or a not-morning person. That's just a preference we make. It can change and you can FUCKING GET OVER IT. No matter how hard you think it is to get out of bed and wake yourself the fuck up, it's not hard at all.
First world problems.
That's completely wrong. Morning vs. evening preference is an inherent trait, which cannot simply be changed by free will. There have been many studies of this, and several genes identified that contribute to morning/evening preference. Of course, one's choices can contribute to morning/evening preference too (e.g., staying up late with the light on), but ultimately you are fighting against biology. Morning/evening preference is also known to change with age. People naturally sleep the latest around age 18, and progressively shift earlier from there into old age.
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
That's quite ignorant.
Thing is people are different. Some have no problems in waking up in the morning others do, it's more than "man the fuck up" it's about how the body/brain works. Just as some need 5h of sleep others need 10h.
Going to bed an hour earlier isn't going to fix it for not-morning people. I'm not a morning person and no matter how much i sleep i still find waking up before 10 to be very hard.
I think it depends a lot on the metabolism. So i guess the only real advice for late-starters is to find a job with a flexible schedule or that doesn't start in the morning .
Of course I would like to lay in bed till whenever the fuck I wanted, but that's not realistic. If I had a gun pointed in your face and started counting down from 5 you would get up. You simply choose to prioritize sleep over getting up.
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
That's quite ignorant.
Thing is people are different. Some have no problems in waking up in the morning others do, it's more than "man the fuck up" it's about how the body/brain works. Just as some need 5h of sleep others need 10h.
Going to bed an hour earlier isn't going to fix it for not-morning people. I'm not a morning person and no matter how much i sleep i still find waking up before 10 to be very hard.
I think it depends a lot on the metabolism. So i guess the only real advice for late-starters is to find a job with a flexible schedule or that doesn't start in the morning .
Of course I would like to lay in bed till whenever the fuck I wanted, but that's not realistic. If I had a gun pointed in your face and started counting down from 5 you would get up. You simply choose to prioritize sleep over getting up.
personally I use 4 alarms to get me up in the morning. 1 is the regular good old phone style besides my bed, tuned with a playlist that starts of slowely and grows faster depending on how many times I snooze it. Then there is the opposite side of room regular clock. There is the radio in the room turning on so I can get the news when I wake up and then there is the computer starting up. With all the noise I cant snooze for long. To completely wake up I usually turn on shuffle on the music and let it go through my speakers as I update myself on what's been going on during the night. And after an hour of waking up you still cant ask me dumb questions or I might cut your troath. good mornig world.
I set my alarm half an hour before I have to get up, with a second alarm when I have to get up. For some reason it works for me, the first time I'm like 'BLAAAAAAH FUCK YOU I'M STAYING IN BED' and the second time I'm like 'Oh fine.'
Also a tip; if you want to get up at the same time every day, eat breakfast every day, just after getting up. Your body clock will adjust and realise that this is the time to awake.
Doesn't work for me because my job has me doing extremely varied shifts so I have no regularity at all
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
That's quite ignorant.
Thing is people are different. Some have no problems in waking up in the morning others do, it's more than "man the fuck up" it's about how the body/brain works. Just as some need 5h of sleep others need 10h.
Going to bed an hour earlier isn't going to fix it for not-morning people. I'm not a morning person and no matter how much i sleep i still find waking up before 10 to be very hard.
I think it depends a lot on the metabolism. So i guess the only real advice for late-starters is to find a job with a flexible schedule or that doesn't start in the morning .
Of course I would like to lay in bed till whenever the fuck I wanted, but that's not realistic. If I had a gun pointed in your face and started counting down from 5 you would get up. You simply choose to prioritize sleep over getting up.
The example is very bad.
Starting from your idea of prioritizing things. Imagine the sleep having a maximum priority in the morning when you try to wake up. That while consciously at bedtime you prioritize getting up so you're not late for work. Did you change your mind during the night? Nope. Your body makes you do it. While you're in that semi-concious state in the morning the body says "sleep = priority".
Haven't you ever seen differences on how people are after woken up? Some even minutes after feel fresh and are fully conscious while others are like zombies that can't even comprehend what you're telling them.
I overslept for work yesterday again, so last night I decided to try out one of those sleep cycle alarms where they wake you up when you're in "light" sleep based on your body movement. According to its graph, I didn't get around to light sleep - ____ - barely made it on time today.
I need to figure this out too, though -- I've actually slept through exams and important meetings, and my professors ask me if I'm narcoleptic.
if you're good with electronics, rig your alarm to trigger something unpleasant, say electrical shock pads or something. after a while, you probably wont even need the unpleasant stimulus anymore, as you'd be conditioned to anticipate it when your alarm goes off
Multiple alarm clocks in multiple locations is really the way to go if you have willpower issues. This helped me a lot - Just put one by your bed, and one or two far enough away that you have to get out of bed to turn them off. Once you get pulled out of your warm bed its a lot easier to come to your senses.
i don't turn off my alarm clock and go back to sleep because i have to wake up (school, work...etc) seems pretty simple. unless you're talking about the weekends, then i don't set an alarm clock.
also, the key to waking up is the sun. when i was in high school, my room pretty much had no sunlight so it was extremely hard to get out of bed.
however, i had to stay at my aunt's house for a week, and the room i stayed in would shine sunlight straight onto the bed. the light/warmth made me instantly wake up and feel refreshed at 7 AM every single day.
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
That's quite ignorant.
Thing is people are different. Some have no problems in waking up in the morning others do, it's more than "man the fuck up" it's about how the body/brain works. Just as some need 5h of sleep others need 10h.
Going to bed an hour earlier isn't going to fix it for not-morning people. I'm not a morning person and no matter how much i sleep i still find waking up before 10 to be very hard.
I think it depends a lot on the metabolism. So i guess the only real advice for late-starters is to find a job with a flexible schedule or that doesn't start in the morning .
Everyone that knows me would know I'm not a morning person, but if stuff needs to be done than i agree: man the fuck up and just get out of that bed. Everybody hates that moment of actually getting out of bed. The thing that seperates the morning people from the non morning people (if there are any) is how fast you will wake up after that. If i havent slept enough ill be like a zombie until lunchtime. If i did sleep enough im still a zombie for atleast 1 / 1.5 hours. Excuses like "im physically or psychologically incapable of getting up before 10" wont cut it when real life starts.
If there are serious consequences to not getting up... I.E. work or school.. then it's really not that hard to get up..
I'm guessing there's really no need for you to get up earlier that's why you go back to bed.. If i was in your position I'd probably do the same thing.,
On January 07 2012 04:37 GwSC wrote: It helps to have something to look forward to. If there is something that I am excited to do in that day I have no problem getting up at all.
Yes but there's also the opposite. If you're having anxiety problems and you're under stress and/or something unusual should happen that day chances are you will feel even more sleepy - which is used by the body as a defense mechanism.
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
That's quite ignorant.
Thing is people are different. Some have no problems in waking up in the morning others do, it's more than "man the fuck up" it's about how the body/brain works. Just as some need 5h of sleep others need 10h.
Going to bed an hour earlier isn't going to fix it for not-morning people. I'm not a morning person and no matter how much i sleep i still find waking up before 10 to be very hard.
I think it depends a lot on the metabolism. So i guess the only real advice for late-starters is to find a job with a flexible schedule or that doesn't start in the morning .
Of course I would like to lay in bed till whenever the fuck I wanted, but that's not realistic. If I had a gun pointed in your face and started counting down from 5 you would get up. You simply choose to prioritize sleep over getting up.
actually i wouldn't. What a relief that would be.
That has nothing to do with anything. This isn't really a good place for you to talk about your over-romanticized death wishes.
On January 06 2012 17:18 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't get people that are over 18 years old and "can't wake up". All the people in uni that used to come half an hour late to every single class would be on time for the final exam miraculously.
Just man the fuck up or go to bed an hour earlier.
That's quite ignorant.
Thing is people are different. Some have no problems in waking up in the morning others do, it's more than "man the fuck up" it's about how the body/brain works. Just as some need 5h of sleep others need 10h.
Going to bed an hour earlier isn't going to fix it for not-morning people. I'm not a morning person and no matter how much i sleep i still find waking up before 10 to be very hard.
I think it depends a lot on the metabolism. So i guess the only real advice for late-starters is to find a job with a flexible schedule or that doesn't start in the morning .
This guy has no trouble sleeping. There's no such thing is a morning person or a not-morning person. That's just a preference we make. It can change and you can FUCKING GET OVER IT. No matter how hard you think it is to get out of bed and wake yourself the fuck up, it's not hard at all.
First world problems.
Yes there is. Just as there is people who can eat a lot and not get any fat and people who will put on fat while barely eating. The metabolism doesn't go the same for everyone.
You'll do it anyway because you must, but doesn't mean it's as easy for everyone and no it's not just psychological.
No. Morning/night person have nothing to do with waking up. Some peoples' bodies take longer to wake up than others. it has nothing to do with what fucking time it is. I never said it was as easy for everyone. The fact is that no matter how hard it is for the OP, it isn't actually hard. At its most difficult it's like getting yourself to brush your teeth when it's cold at night. Sure you might be uncomfortable with a cold bathroom but if you don't brush your teeth because it's cold you just have to accept that it's because you're being a child about it.
Waking up in the morning is all about attitude, not about alarm clocks. It is easy to wake up if you want to be up and doing things, if you don't want to get up you won't, get pumped about what you are doing. Haven't you ever been excited about something and wake up at like 4am when you only had to be up at 8am? You had no problem getting up then, get a more positive attitude and you will have no problems. If you have nothing in your life you can get excited about what are you doing with your life?
One thing is don't play starcraft before you go to bed, it keeps you up. As for the alarm i like to have it so i can hit snooze a couple of times, and i keep curtains open so the sun wakes me up.
I remember I used to use a palm pilot as my alarm clock. I would often wake up very early to do homework, and the thought of failing on my homework would wake me up instantly. Over time, I started to have a vomiting reflex and intense discomfort at the very sound of that alarm. Nowadays, I use an iphone alarm with gentle music, but when I need to catch a flight or something, I dig out that palm pilot from the piles of junk and use it to wake me up instantly.
If your bedroom is close to a bathroom, put a second alarm clock in it and have it go off a minute or two after the one in your bedroom, then obviously take a shower. Its what I did to prepare to go back to school.
Like Fawkes said, will power. 99.5% of the time I'll get up, usually after pressing snooze once or twice, but once or twice a year I'll just completely turn the thing off and go back to bed. Sometimes when I get up later I don't even recall turning it off :/
Im just whirling up some ideas, perhaps someone else can polish them and make them actually useful.
1. Adrenaline, sometimes i wake up scared shitless and i definately feel like im totally awake. Some examples when this has happened have been nightmares or some loud noise irl, like firealarm or window breaking.
2. Anxiousness, sometimes it ruins sleep completely, usually its very easy to wake up. Example when im going to play floorball, its super easy to wake up, pack up my stuff and go. When im going to a job interview or something important like that, it can be hard to sleep but easy to get up.
3. Pain, you know the feeling when you wiggle your toes while sleeping and changing position, suddenly a wild cat appears.
Then there are these things that make waking up difficult. 1. Youre sick, ie hangover or some actual disease. 2. You havent slept enough or you have slept too much, i guess something between 6-10 hours is something to aim for. 3. You have to do something that sucks, like work or school and you feel like you can be a little late. 4. You have nothing to do and feel like sleeping is awesome way to spend time 5. Medicine, some make you sleepy. For example sometimes i have tough time getting up after using sleeping pills. Mysterious stuff huh 6. Coldness. Bed is all nice and warm and youre supposed to climb up to a cold, cruel world? No thanks says the brain.
Personally my wakeup routine is something like this, works around 80% of the time, so its not that great. 1. Wake up, put lights on immediately. - First dangerzone here, sometimes i never hear the alarm clock i have shut it down before my brain can function at all. 2. Shut the alarm - This is the second dangerzone, sometimes instead of springing out of the bed i sit on the bed, thinking "i wonder how it feels if i lie down, i bet i could willpower my way off the sleep and just lie there for a moment, even close my eyes for a while" 3. Dress up properly 4. Grab something to eat and finish it during the next step 5. Check out the internet, how NHL has been going, which bets have failed. 6. Figure out what am i supposed to do next, ie how to prepare for school/work. - This is the third and last dangerzone, if im supposed to do something less than pleasant and im feeling sleepy, its time to textmessage "im coming a bit late" 7. Jump on my shoes and after that its safe to say i've beaten the morning.
I've heard lots of good things about this willpower thing, but it works like musclepower so you gotta train for it which sucks. What i mean is that you have to decide "Thats it, im starting to train my willpower" and then simply say NO to harmful pleasantries, if you slip up once and you start slipping up all the time.
I used to have the same problem until I started using my cellphone, which I set next to me, now its constantly getting lost in random covers or ending up on the floor so i wake up just finding it.. ;p
Having caffeine ready for consumption is a pretty good motivator usually, also I like to play some games before I go off to work as opposed to when I come back completely exhausted. But sometimes it's one of those days and none will help, I'll be getting up in the nick of time and curse myself for not getting up earlier.
Knowing that i will be late for work is enough for me to get (after several snoozes ofcoarse). What bothers me is when i switch the alarm of without any recollection of doing so, waking up, looking at the clock and realising in a shit panic that im late.... Ughh nothing worse then that, these days i generaly shit myself when i wake up before my alarm because i think i have switched it off without realising... lol
I have 2 alarm clocks set at opposite corners (well kinda near corners, they're still on the opposite side of the room). The one furthest away from my bed is incredibly loud, and set for 1 minute later than my closer alarm. I get up or deal with the super loud alarm
Edit: I also have to get to classes . And I don't want to piss off my suitemates with the alarm. This provides more than enough motivation in my case
Who would have thought that in the 21st century, ppl forces themselves to get up by setting up timed noise machines on the other side of their bedroom.
I don't understand ppl who forces themselves to go up in the morning without a sufficient amount of sleep. If you go to bed at like 2AM, you're not lazy if you don't get up in time. You just need to sleep earlier. This is not a question of getting up in time, it's a question of going to bed in time.
If you have to force yourself to get up, you're either not sleeping enough, or you're depressed to the point that you need to get help. Either way, the alarm clock is not the answer.
I think the alarm clock have its purpose, but I see it as a safety net. If the alarm clock triggers your awakening most nights, you're doing it wrong.
If you have a healthy sleep schedule, you wake up most mornings around 15-30 minutes before the alarm clock rings. If you wake up by the alarm clock most nights, first of all, you're not sleeping enough, and secondly, you're desensitizing yourself to the alarm, since it becomes the norm, and this greatly increases your chance of turning it off and going back to sleep.
After reading this thread, I learned that iPod's have an alarm function, so I started waking up to sick tunes everyday, and now after 2 weeks of using the alarm, for the past week I've woken up around 8:30-8:40 all by myself :D:D:D.
What quickly came into my mind was an alarm that makes you do a math problem to turn it off. Supposedly that even basic math is difficult to do once you've just woken up, and by the time you've summoned the strength to answer the question, you're much more awake and have less of an urge to fall back asleep.
This may have been mentioned already, but I did search the first few pages for a mention of this.
On January 09 2012 18:13 ninini wrote: Who would have thought that in the 21st century, ppl forces themselves to get up by setting up timed noise machines on the other side of their bedroom.
I don't understand ppl who forces themselves to go up in the morning without a sufficient amount of sleep. If you go to bed at like 2AM, you're not lazy if you don't get up in time. You just need to sleep earlier. This is not a question of getting up in time, it's a question of going to bed in time.
If you have to force yourself to get up, you're either not sleeping enough, or you're depressed to the point that you need to get help. Either way, the alarm clock is not the answer.
I think the alarm clock have its purpose, but I see it as a safety net. If the alarm clock triggers your awakening most nights, you're doing it wrong.
If you have a healthy sleep schedule, you wake up most mornings around 15-30 minutes before the alarm clock rings. If you wake up by the alarm clock most nights, first of all, you're not sleeping enough, and secondly, you're desensitizing yourself to the alarm, since it becomes the norm, and this greatly increases your chance of turning it off and going back to sleep.
My tip: Sleep earlier.
That is so not the case for many people, most would oversleep without the use of alarm clocks and this would be worse for their health long term (anything over 8 is considered bad in almost every dimension that I've come across). So many people have different circadian rhythm scales that you can't say dumb things like "go to sleep sooner" because some people CAN'T . I have what is best described as delayed sleep phase syndrome. I cannot go to sleep before midnight, never been able to since I was born, and getting up before like 8 is the hardest thing of my day, always. Like without an alarm clock or something to get me up I can sleep 10+ hours a day no problem, but if I sleep 6 every day I feel just as good, usually better, plus I have wayyy more time to do stuff.
Alarm clocks are awesome
They also have an alarm clock that rolls around and forces you to chase it but that's only if you dont turn it off for a while, so doesnt solve that problem but it's still pretty sweet.
(oh also I feel your pain OP, alot of the time I need multiple alarm clocks cause if I have just 1 I dont exit stage 1 sleep, even if i walk all the way across the room to turn off my alarm. So i always wake up having overslept with a dream that i shut my alarm clock off lol)
Weekdays, I've got class in the morning so I pretty much have to get up in the am to catch the bus on time (30 min intervals). On weekends, I keep to a 8-9 hour sleep limit. I found out that if I sleep too much (~ over 9 hrs), I get a headache. So to avert the pain, I limit myself to 8-9 hrs max (exceptions of course for contniuous days of 4 hrs sleep for exams or an all nighter the night before or something).
Edit: So getting up when the alarm hits is a combination of necessity and pleasure/pain principle for me. :O
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