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holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
December 22 2011 19:48 GMT
#101
What state was it that ruled siamese twins cannot be put in jail due to one of the twins actions? Italy? I find that fascinating. Hopefuly they can reach maturity.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1597 Posts
December 22 2011 19:48 GMT
#102
On December 23 2011 01:00 Nothingtosay wrote:
[image loading]


Conjoined twins have been born in Brazil with two heads, two functioning brains and two backbones - but a single heart.

However there have been other known cases, notably Abigail and Brittany Hensel who were born in the US in 1990. They aim to live as normal a life as possible, even taking their driving test when they were 16.



Doctors say separating the twins, named Jesus and Emanuel, is not currently an option because there is only one set of organs, Reuters reports.



dicephalic parapagus affected around one in 100,000 pregnancies, but that around half do not reach full-term.

Articles
BBC (Quotes are from here)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16300314

HeraldSun
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/twins-born-with-two-heads-and-one-body-both-healthy-and-both-have-an-amazing-appetite/story-e6frf7lf-1226228218320


This is crazy to me, being a twin myself I can't even imagine if this had happened to me. Apparently the twins Abigail and Brittany Hensel both control half of their body. Think about the coordination that takes. I know my brother and I my understand each other more than most people (because we've always been together) but still. They Hensel twins also differ in the fact that they are known to have two of certain organs such as the heart.


Is it confirmed by DNA that they are both female? Yes, I know that there is only one set of genitals, but before a person was a conjoined twin. The second twin died early on (very early on) and was not present at birth, but a second set of DNA was in the system.

Now for the semi-trolling question. Wouldn't it be interesting if one could control the whole body, but the other was only able to bite the controller's ear?
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
December 22 2011 19:50 GMT
#103
On December 23 2011 01:28 Firebolt145 wrote:
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On December 23 2011 01:27 solidbebe wrote:
Living with someone else is the weirdest thing to me, how would you have sex? Would you both enjoy it ?? I just don't understand.






not that too many people would have sex with conjoined twins...

Yeah because this is totally the first and most important issue when growing up.


LOL awesome
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EctoMimed
Profile Joined April 2011
United States38 Posts
December 22 2011 19:51 GMT
#104
There is an occurance of this already in Minnesota. I am friends with a girl who knows the twins who have the same defect, and are like 20 something now.. I forget their names, there was a documentary on them, asking questions that would answer a lot of what people are wondering about his baby.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
December 22 2011 19:52 GMT
#105
There are some mean hearted people in this thread.


I hope they live a long and fullfilling life.
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
December 22 2011 19:54 GMT
#106
that is some crazy shit. i didn't know it was possible for two brains to work together with one heart.
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
December 22 2011 20:00 GMT
#107
I could imagine one of them pulling a bad prank on the other if they control only their half of the body.

"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself." :D

I hope they don't have any health complications.
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price
Profile Joined December 2010
United States297 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 20:03:48
December 22 2011 20:02 GMT
#108
On December 23 2011 04:48 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 01:00 Nothingtosay wrote:
[image loading]


Conjoined twins have been born in Brazil with two heads, two functioning brains and two backbones - but a single heart.

However there have been other known cases, notably Abigail and Brittany Hensel who were born in the US in 1990. They aim to live as normal a life as possible, even taking their driving test when they were 16.



Doctors say separating the twins, named Jesus and Emanuel, is not currently an option because there is only one set of organs, Reuters reports.



dicephalic parapagus affected around one in 100,000 pregnancies, but that around half do not reach full-term.

Articles
BBC (Quotes are from here)
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16300314

HeraldSun
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/twins-born-with-two-heads-and-one-body-both-healthy-and-both-have-an-amazing-appetite/story-e6frf7lf-1226228218320


This is crazy to me, being a twin myself I can't even imagine if this had happened to me. Apparently the twins Abigail and Brittany Hensel both control half of their body. Think about the coordination that takes. I know my brother and I my understand each other more than most people (because we've always been together) but still. They Hensel twins also differ in the fact that they are known to have two of certain organs such as the heart.


Is it confirmed by DNA that they are both female? Yes, I know that there is only one set of genitals, but before a person was a conjoined twin. The second twin died early on (very early on) and was not present at birth, but a second set of DNA was in the system.


this kind of thing can happen to a single person too. if the mother has twins very early in the pregnancy and the two sets of cells fuse, they can create a person with two sets of DNA (one organ will have one type of DNA and another organ might have different DNA). more often than not, conjoined twins like this is the consequence (if not miscarriage).
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 20:06:34
December 22 2011 20:05 GMT
#109
On December 23 2011 04:48 Sephy90 wrote:
Just makes me wonder... what if they were male and female? O_O!!


They need to be same gender, cause they are from the same egg.
non identical twins are from 2 different eggs.
Twins can either be monozygotic ("identical"), meaning that they develop from one zygote that splits and forms two embryos, or dizygotic ("fraternal") because they develop from two separate eggs that are fertilized by two separate sperm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin

And afaik siamese twin can only happen with 1 egg involved
Zarathusta
Profile Joined September 2010
United States114 Posts
December 22 2011 20:06 GMT
#110
Am I the only one thinking about how high they could get their APM with the right coordination? Two brains > one brain. I wonder if both heads have the ability to breathe and eat?

On a serious note, I have a severe concern that one set of vital organs will not be able to support two fully functional heads (brains). Our brain uses a ton of resources, and one heart trying to pump enough blood up there seems like it will be overworked :/
Paraiba
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil217 Posts
December 22 2011 20:07 GMT
#111
Most of the questions in this thread can be answered by reading up on the Hensel twins.

Bonus: their mother's name is "Mary of Nazareth". Yep.
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
December 22 2011 20:07 GMT
#112
didnt this happen before in china??/
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
December 22 2011 20:09 GMT
#113
On December 23 2011 04:42 Aterons_toss wrote:


Edit: thinking about it, if they have 1 set of organs, will the lungs/heart be "strong" enough to support both brains ?

exactly my thought
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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
December 22 2011 20:11 GMT
#114
On December 23 2011 05:05 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 04:48 Sephy90 wrote:
Just makes me wonder... what if they were male and female? O_O!!


They need to be same gender, cause they are from the same egg.
non identical twins are from 2 different eggs.
Show nested quote +
Twins can either be monozygotic ("identical"), meaning that they develop from one zygote that splits and forms two embryos, or dizygotic ("fraternal") because they develop from two separate eggs that are fertilized by two separate sperm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin

And afaik siamese twin can only happen with 1 egg involved

It's much rarer then when 1 egg splits, but conjoined twins can also result from the merger of two separate eggs.
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Livelovedie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States492 Posts
December 22 2011 20:14 GMT
#115
Theoretically is it possible for one of them to die while the other survives? Say if one of them got shot in the head or something like that.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
December 22 2011 20:14 GMT
#116
On December 23 2011 05:11 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 05:05 Yoshi- wrote:
On December 23 2011 04:48 Sephy90 wrote:
Just makes me wonder... what if they were male and female? O_O!!


They need to be same gender, cause they are from the same egg.
non identical twins are from 2 different eggs.
Twins can either be monozygotic ("identical"), meaning that they develop from one zygote that splits and forms two embryos, or dizygotic ("fraternal") because they develop from two separate eggs that are fertilized by two separate sperm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin

And afaik siamese twin can only happen with 1 egg involved

It's much rarer then when 1 egg splits, but conjoined twins can also result from the merger of two separate eggs.


But then i can't really believe that 2 separated eggs could form such a body(2 heads, rest normal)
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 22 2011 20:16 GMT
#117
I Immediately thought of 2 Templar that went to form an Archon and attempted a cancel.

I'm sorry, but when I see something this uncommon, I can't help but attempt humor.
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PhuxPro
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States294 Posts
December 22 2011 20:18 GMT
#118
On December 23 2011 04:39 Vegalive wrote:
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On December 23 2011 04:26 PhuxPro wrote:
One question.

When these babies are put into a stressful condition that elicits fear or anything of the like, and BOTH brains send nerve impulses to the adrenal gland, would their body overload in epinephrine and spike up their heartrate so much that they could die?

I mean, they are making their body go through twice the amount of adrenaline than one of us. Shouldn't that be a very concerning part of discussions on whether they would survive or not?


A properly functioning endocrine system should have negative feedback loops to stop the excess of any hormone so I don't think that this would be a problem but obviously this is a very special case so you can't be sure.



Oh, that's right.
I completely forgot about homeostasis and the feedback mechanisms within the human body.

Thanks for reminding me!
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 22 2011 20:21 GMT
#119
I hope they don't have too much trouble, even though its sad that they may not make it, idk why but twins like this tend to not make it far after birth but i hope they will. I hope they live as full filling a life as possible
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
December 22 2011 20:22 GMT
#120
On December 23 2011 05:16 Kmatt wrote:
I Immediately thought of 2 Templar that went to form an Archon and attempted a cancel.

I'm sorry, but when I see something this uncommon, I can't help but attempt humor.


Lol reminds me of an old bug in bw, where you could either create a ever ending Archon Morph or 2 templar walking about cliffs and so
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