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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
December 09 2011 11:54 GMT
#341
What is so bad about 400mL? i think 12 ounces sounds worse than that. I just think due to simplicity and practicality, metric is absolutely better
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vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
December 09 2011 11:54 GMT
#342
Isn't metric more standard than 'standard'..
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Vinland
Profile Joined April 2011
Argentina136 Posts
December 09 2011 11:55 GMT
#343
Metric.

Went to a technical high school, and while we learned the basics of the Imperial system, all we used was the International.

Also I do some AutoCad drawings from time to time for an US company, and they also use Metric.

I know its hard to figure things out on a system that you didnt grow up with. When someone tells me "that must be 15m away", I can figure exactly that distance in my mind in a second, but if they tell me "must be 20 feet" I just have to make the conversion in my head first, and only when i figure "oh its 6 meters" I can really see it.
So while I do think that everyone at this point should be using the International System, I do comprehend why you wouldnt want to. And its not such a big deal anyway.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 11:58:49
December 09 2011 11:55 GMT
#344
I find it quite funny that you refer to the imperial system as the "standard" when it's pretty much only used in the U.S. I use metric for everything.

For reference, here's a map where the "standard" countries are red:
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Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
December 09 2011 11:55 GMT
#345
i am so confused.

because technically, metric IS standard.

our us measurement is not standard.

T_T
Brosy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 11:58:51
December 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#346
Hmmm...well I guess I use both. The "standard" for things like height, weight, and distances. But metric for important thinks like booz (a fifth, a 1/2 fifth (thats right double fraction), etc). Although I don't think that a handle fits under either system....crap
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 09 2011 11:59 GMT
#347
On December 09 2011 20:45 lololol wrote:
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On December 09 2011 19:53 opisska wrote:
In our country, noone has any idea about Imperial units, except for maybe inches that are for some obscene reason still used as a measure for computer screens, tires and gardening pipes (but the original meaning of "inch" is then supprssed, as a 21" screen does in no dimension measure 21 inches). Maybe someone will know, what a mile is, but usually people would be confused whether it is 1.6 km mile or 1.8 km mile. The more exotic units like pints or pounds? 99 % of the people here do not have even a remote idea how big these are.

For monitors it's the diagonal.


I recommend you to take a ruler and go measure a few diagonals of monitors. You could be surprised.
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
December 09 2011 12:00 GMT
#348
There's nothing Standard about the imperial system.

only time i use inches is for screens. not sure why even here it's all in inches.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
December 09 2011 12:01 GMT
#349
On December 09 2011 20:59 opisska wrote:
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On December 09 2011 20:45 lololol wrote:
On December 09 2011 19:53 opisska wrote:
In our country, noone has any idea about Imperial units, except for maybe inches that are for some obscene reason still used as a measure for computer screens, tires and gardening pipes (but the original meaning of "inch" is then supprssed, as a 21" screen does in no dimension measure 21 inches). Maybe someone will know, what a mile is, but usually people would be confused whether it is 1.6 km mile or 1.8 km mile. The more exotic units like pints or pounds? 99 % of the people here do not have even a remote idea how big these are.

For monitors it's the diagonal.


I recommend you to take a ruler and go measure a few diagonals of monitors. You could be surprised.

All my monitors have correct measurements in inches, but if you have a CRT or other monitor with a rounded screen it won't be correct.
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Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
December 09 2011 12:06 GMT
#350
On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:

Advantages of Standard
1. Standard goes more naturally with fractions - quarter of a pint, half foot, etc. Technically, you don't say half meter but rather 50 centimeters or 500 millimeters.

2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.




Yes you do Half meter and half litre or five meters of wood has been the standard way of saying in any country which uses the metric system, which should be the majority of them (?). It only sounds weird because you dont use it

Also i see no pros what so ever with any other measuring system. Like in UK they measure weight in stones. Awesome and precise system that

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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
December 09 2011 12:08 GMT
#351
I don't think it's unreasonable to say that the SI system is objectively superior and the only reason one would ever use the imperial system is because one grew up with it.
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
December 09 2011 12:08 GMT
#352
am i the only one who uses cgs?
oh well , its basically metric with more sense.
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skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 12:10:56
December 09 2011 12:10 GMT
#353
On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
Advantages of Standard
1. Standard goes more naturally with fractions - quarter of a pint, half foot, etc. Technically, you don't say half meter but rather 50 centimeters or 500 millimeters.

2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.

There are no advantages of imperial (or standard as you call it.)

You can use fractions with the metric system, half a meter does make sense, quarter of a litre does make sense... it's just that it's easier more often than not to use decimals. For example we have 1.25 litre bottles of soft drink here in australia and it's just quicker and easier to say "one point two five" than "one and one quarter"

Also using mm for wood (or other material) measurements makes perfect sense and is quite natural if you're used to it. I don't know where you got 1x1x12 from as that is far from standard. But for example a 2"x4" piece of wood is actually 1-1/2"x3-1/2" so even for wood imperial is pretty messed up. The metric equivalent is 38 x 89 mm, which is really not that hard to imagine if you are used to the metric system.


tldr: your "advantages of standard" are just because you come from a country that uses imperial.
sigma_x
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 12:22:07
December 09 2011 12:12 GMT
#354
The very existence of this thread highlights severe American-centric bias. There are only 3 countries in the world that do not use the metric system. They are Liberia, Myanmar (Burma) and the United States of America. For good measure, i suppose you could include Antarctica as a fourth location.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Metric_system_adoption_map.svg/800px-Metric_system_adoption_map.svg.png

Edit: None of your "advantages of standard" are tenable. Most people do say "half a metre"; it is not unheard of to ask for a 400ml bottle, and people do ask for a 5 metre plank of wood in timber and hardware stores. In Australia, the only vestige of the imperial system is in measuring a person's height. Other oddities like measuring the size of a computer screen arise only because the computer screens were intended for an American market.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
December 09 2011 12:26 GMT
#355
Imperial system is not the standard. Metric is.
I live in Europe so I only use metric
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ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
December 09 2011 12:29 GMT
#356
i use standard like a boss. 5280 feet in a mile bro, what's not to make sense?
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 09 2011 12:37 GMT
#357
On December 09 2011 21:29 ishboh wrote:
i use standard like a boss. 5280 feet in a mile bro, what's not to make sense?


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DIRESTRAIT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada155 Posts
December 09 2011 12:40 GMT
#358
Chemistry and Physics are much easier with metric IMO the units are more practical. Then again I haven't ever had to use standard so that just may be my bias.
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psychopat
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada417 Posts
December 09 2011 12:40 GMT
#359
I accidentally voted standard on a misclick. Whoops.

That said, standard is metric just about everywhere in the world besides the US. Imperial is deprecated and annoying because of its complete randomness.
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
December 09 2011 12:41 GMT
#360
I truly hate american measuring systems...every time i lookup a recipe to cook with, it's like: use a cup of oats, teaspoon of honey...that's all nice but my cups are all different in sizes T_T. So i just convert it to ml's or grams, but then it probably doesn't match to what author had in mind. Y_Y
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