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On December 16 2011 07:07 eits wrote:
what i do not understand is, under US LAW, bribery in most cases is actually a pretty big deal and they pursue "criminals" who bribe officials/police/etc. Now, how in the fuck do they make lobbyists legal in our government system?
lame
Bribery would be directly putting money into someone's hands. Lobbyists put money into a candidates campaign fund, which they're legally allowed to do, not into their hand. Congressmen and Senators can still lose their job and serve jail time if they're found taking bribes. It happened a few years ago to a Congressmen but I can't remember what state he was from. He was hiding the money in his fridge iirc.
On December 16 2011 07:08 aksfjh wrote:Can you imagine if one day Youtube just popped up with "Sorry. Youtube cannot service your country." in America? The outrage would be insurmountable.
YouTube would be inaccessible everywhere if SOPA passed.
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On December 16 2011 07:09 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 07:07 eits wrote:
what i do not understand is, under US LAW, bribery in most cases is actually a pretty big deal and they pursue "criminals" who bribe officials/police/etc. Now, how in the fuck do they make lobbyists legal in our government system?
lame Because while it's not okay to bribe police, judges, juries, etc it's completely okay to bribe politicians because if you couldn't bribe politicians how would they make disgusting amounts of money?
The Gentlemen's time has expired, will the gentlemen yield?
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On December 16 2011 07:10 Incursus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 07:09 tofucake wrote:On December 16 2011 07:07 eits wrote:
what i do not understand is, under US LAW, bribery in most cases is actually a pretty big deal and they pursue "criminals" who bribe officials/police/etc. Now, how in the fuck do they make lobbyists legal in our government system?
lame Because while it's not okay to bribe police, judges, juries, etc it's completely okay to bribe politicians because if you couldn't bribe politicians how would they make disgusting amounts of money? The Gentlemen's time has expired, will the gentlemen yield?
+ Show Spoiler +How much money to buy more time?
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On December 16 2011 07:08 aksfjh wrote:Can you imagine if one day Youtube just popped up with "Sorry. Youtube cannot service your country." in America? The outrage would be insurmountable.
i could imagine they would refuse to serve any one who voted to pass this bill... dont forget obama won the election by facebook and twitter. Google now is no longer a service but a weapon.
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On December 16 2011 07:07 eits wrote:
what i do not understand is, under US LAW, bribery in most cases is actually a pretty big deal and they pursue "criminals" who bribe officials/police/etc. Now, how in the fuck do they make lobbyists legal in our government system?
lame
Lobbying is actually a great thing. It encompasses much more than just rich companies and people sending gifts to congressmen. Lobbying is exactly what you do when you attempt to contact a congressman about an issue.
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On December 16 2011 07:11 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 07:07 eits wrote:
what i do not understand is, under US LAW, bribery in most cases is actually a pretty big deal and they pursue "criminals" who bribe officials/police/etc. Now, how in the fuck do they make lobbyists legal in our government system?
lame Lobbying is actually a great thing. It encompasses much more than just rich companies and people sending gifts to congressmen. Lobbying is exactly what you do when you attempt to contact a congressman about an issue.
Until copious sums of money get thrown around and we try to organize it all in a futile attempt and then say it's completely legit.
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Ugh, another recorded vote >.<
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"the 'no's have it"
he's probably right but it sounded like the ayes were more numerous lol
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On December 16 2011 07:11 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 07:07 eits wrote:
what i do not understand is, under US LAW, bribery in most cases is actually a pretty big deal and they pursue "criminals" who bribe officials/police/etc. Now, how in the fuck do they make lobbyists legal in our government system?
lame Lobbying is actually a great thing. It encompasses much more than just rich companies and people sending gifts to congressmen. Lobbying is exactly what you do when you attempt to contact a congressman about an issue. In concept yes, but it's been so twisted and perverted into what it never should be that now it is basically bribery under a different name.
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why do they even bother having to ASK to get a credit to count the vote. this is weird. it's like you hear random Aye's and random Nay's, and the chairman tries to quickly move on, and he always gets interrupted to get a proper count.
are you telling me if someone doesn't demand a count, it would just go by what the chairman 'thinks' he heard?
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On December 16 2011 07:11 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 07:07 eits wrote:
what i do not understand is, under US LAW, bribery in most cases is actually a pretty big deal and they pursue "criminals" who bribe officials/police/etc. Now, how in the fuck do they make lobbyists legal in our government system?
lame Lobbying is actually a great thing. It encompasses much more than just rich companies and people sending gifts to congressmen. Lobbying is exactly what you do when you attempt to contact a congressman about an issue.
unfortunately, lobbying requires money. what ends up happening is rich companies tend to have more time/influence because they have more money to spend.
there's nothing wrong with the concept of lobbying. what's wrong is the way it's implemented.
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LMFAO
We will now vote on the amendment.
Those in favor say I - IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Those opposed say nah - no(quietly)
The no's have it...what?
forcing a 'recorded vote'
what a douche
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Now everyone is just voting no because someone else did.
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On December 16 2011 07:14 Kazeyonoma wrote:
why do they even bother having to ASK to get a credit to count the vote. this is weird. it's like you hear random Aye's and random Nay's, and the chairman tries to quickly move on, and he always gets interrupted to get a proper count.
are you telling me if someone doesn't demand a count, it would just go by what the chairman 'thinks' he heard?
So why exactly is he the chairman anyway? Shouldn't a chairman be neutral?
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On December 16 2011 07:10 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 07:08 aksfjh wrote:On December 16 2011 07:00 NB wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4vUFB.png) DOOOO EEEETTTTTT Can you imagine if one day Youtube just popped up with "Sorry. Youtube cannot service your country." in America? The outrage would be insurmountable. YouTube would be inaccessible everywhere if SOPA passed.
Not if they hosted their content in another country. At that point, only US ISPs would be required to redirect US traffic away from that site.
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On December 16 2011 07:15 Zalithian wrote:
Now everyone is just voting no because someone else did.
They're doing it because they're tired of working.
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On December 16 2011 07:11 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 07:07 eits wrote:
what i do not understand is, under US LAW, bribery in most cases is actually a pretty big deal and they pursue "criminals" who bribe officials/police/etc. Now, how in the fuck do they make lobbyists legal in our government system?
lame Lobbying is actually a great thing. It encompasses much more than just rich companies and people sending gifts to congressmen. Lobbying is exactly what you do when you attempt to contact a congressman about an issue.
This is actually pretty true. Lobbyists allow citizens to donate to organizations and "vote" for legislation they want.
The issue is when corporations finance things they want that doesn't benefit the average citizen. But yeah, lobbying really isn't a terrible thing.
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We lost another person! Abductions continue!
I can't stand to watch this any more... GL US
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YESSSS TURNED THE FUCK DOWN!
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EPT
