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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 31 2015 23:05 GMT
#1421
Straight up sure.

Yeah I came to the conclusion that bitters/vermouth/citrus/sugar were the possible ingredients in this theorized rum cocktail, the only question then is which ones to choose. But fuck it I went back to my beloved calvados.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-01 03:21:08
November 01 2015 02:29 GMT
#1422
If you do end up making something, let me know. I tend to stick to Gin/Whiskey/Tequila for my mixers but if it works it would be good to have another option for people who want something strange.

Edit: So i had some old spiced rum (Myers Dark, Cinnamon) which i had used for hot buttered rum last year and decided to try an OF. I used orange bitters and it turned out pretty well (though the cinnamon is quite forward). So that might be a simple answer. Rum+bitters
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 01 2015 03:59 GMT
#1423
On November 01 2015 08:05 IgnE wrote:
Straight up sure.

Yeah I came to the conclusion that bitters/vermouth/citrus/sugar were the possible ingredients in this theorized rum cocktail, the only question then is which ones to choose. But fuck it I went back to my beloved calvados.


Liqueurs are what you're looking for. I'm partial to chartreuse myself.
TranslatorBaa!
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
November 01 2015 04:57 GMT
#1424
With rum?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 01 2015 17:57 GMT
#1425
Why not just do a whiskey and coke, those are easy AF to drink and not too sweet
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
November 02 2015 00:21 GMT
#1426
On October 29 2015 13:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2015 10:02 aseq wrote:
Haha, correct, zapz. But imagine having that bottle and a glass next to the computer anyway, and having to get up and walk to the kitchen. Lol

Has anyone here tried the Fujikai 10 years by any chance? It's quite unknown, a limited edition by a wine producing company, and by the time I found out about its existence it was impossible to get. I heard it's very peaty, but it's also has some yummy oily/leathery/salty notes. I know you guys love your Ardbeg, maybe s/o knows what this is like?


The Fujikai is one of the most confusing tasting whiskeys I've ever had. I think I like it, but there's a lot going on. It's got a good bit of fruitiness in addition to what you mentioned-- a ton of flavors, but each seems pretty distinct instead of blending together.


Thanks! I found one on Ebay for 70 Euro. Tad bit steep for my liking, but hey, still less expensive than Octomore. Hope it will arrive soon!
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-04 04:33:30
November 04 2015 04:30 GMT
#1427
At this point I'm fairly convinced that while I agree that Islays are great, much of the "hype" around the scotch coming from that region comes from some weird kind of snobbery where scotch enthusiasts and so called "connoisseurs" want to prove to each other that they're the coolest around because they can appreciate some of the aromas that the general population cannot stomach.

I say this because today I came across an online post where many people basically said all blends are bad, and what you want is single malts from Islay because everything else sucks. And a bunch of guys were piling on like yeah Islay or nothing. On another note, some folks also were saying that the only blend that's not completely horrible is the Johnnie Walker Blue, which is hilarious because anyone who's been paying attention can tell that that's not an opinion that holds any water at all. It's just this weird legend that kids tell each other and it kind of sticks. "Blends are bad." "Islay and peat are good and cool and trendy and makes you look like you know what you're talking about."...

My point being, I think it's weird and pathetic how people present the trendy opinion as their own because it makes them feel cool. Stop the snobbery.

Note: I'm not accusing anyone here of that, nor do I think that people who only stick to Islays are automatically phony. But some of these kids, they don't know anything, they just want to impress everyone by pretending that they enjoy the peatiest scotch there is, or only JW Blue is good because the shots went down easily.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 04 2015 11:44 GMT
#1428
On November 02 2015 02:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Why not just do a whiskey and coke, those are easy AF to drink and not too sweet

You honestly can't go wrong with Whiskey + Coke ever imo.
always easy to drink it just makes the coke taste flat(which isnt that bad imo)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Snotling
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany885 Posts
November 04 2015 11:50 GMT
#1429
On November 04 2015 20:44 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Why not just do a whiskey and coke, those are easy AF to drink and not too sweet

You honestly can't go wrong with Whiskey + Coke ever imo.
always easy to drink it just makes the coke taste flat(which isnt that bad imo)


the wrong part is mixing whiskey and coke in the first place..... :D
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-04 12:29:43
November 04 2015 12:26 GMT
#1430
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, i have been a big fan of Monkey Shoulder for awhile now, just bought my 3rd bottle of it in the past 1 year.

High recommend it for if you fancy some blended malt (the 3 monkeys on the bottle straight up telling you that it is a mix of 3 single malts), this one price wise is excellent and then that magical blending charm is purely impressive.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 04 2015 13:53 GMT
#1431
On November 04 2015 20:50 Snotling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 20:44 arb wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Why not just do a whiskey and coke, those are easy AF to drink and not too sweet

You honestly can't go wrong with Whiskey + Coke ever imo.
always easy to drink it just makes the coke taste flat(which isnt that bad imo)


the wrong part is mixing whiskey and coke in the first place..... :D

People have a high opinion of whisky in general, but there's whisky for $10 and some horrible "cheap" blends like Johnnie Walker Red which in my humble opinion straight up ruin a good glass of coke. Yet some of those $10 bottles of bourbon for instance, mix pretty well with coke.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 04 2015 14:10 GMT
#1432
I was gonna say "hey, JW Red isn't that bad". Then I realize it costs the same as a lot of my nice "entry level" scotches and that I have half a bottle of it left even though my scotches only have a couple drinks left in each.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-04 14:28:10
November 04 2015 14:27 GMT
#1433
On November 04 2015 23:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
I was gonna say "hey, JW Red isn't that bad". Then I realize it costs the same as a lot of my nice "entry level" scotches and that I have half a bottle of it left even though my scotches only have a couple drinks left in each.

I don't know why, but I find JW Red to be particularly bad, at least for me. It's the only scotch (or whisky for that matter) that I found straight up unpleasant. Even the other "bad" whiskies were underwhelming, but not unpleasant like JW Red. It was bad enough that for a time I thought it must have been a bad batch. I felt the same way with the Irish bottling Powers Gold Label. Not my cup of tea.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-04 14:42:08
November 04 2015 14:41 GMT
#1434
Recommendation: Just bought myself "booker's true barell burboun" and love it. One of the nicest straight up drinking bourbons I've ever had and it's 64% alcohol! Incredibly full flavor with that. I usually mix my bourbons (old fashions) but this one I'll drink straight. Its ~$75 in my part of the woods (Canada) so take that as you will. I'm guessing it requires a mortgage payment in Europe and costs $2 in the US

edit: http://whiskey.underthelabel.com/l/486/Booker-s-True-Barrel-Bourbon

why?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 04 2015 14:57 GMT
#1435
On November 04 2015 23:27 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 23:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
I was gonna say "hey, JW Red isn't that bad". Then I realize it costs the same as a lot of my nice "entry level" scotches and that I have half a bottle of it left even though my scotches only have a couple drinks left in each.

I don't know why, but I find JW Red to be particularly bad, at least for me. It's the only scotch (or whisky for that matter) that I found straight up unpleasant. Even the other "bad" whiskies were underwhelming, but not unpleasant like JW Red. It was bad enough that for a time I thought it must have been a bad batch. I felt the same way with the Irish bottling Powers Gold Label. Not my cup of tea.


It's got a weird spicy, astringent taste that just isn't good in any way. I mean, Fireball is cheap cinnamon flavored whiskey, but at least it goes down easily (though it leaves me with a weird scratchy throat).

To be fair, JW has good other stuff. Black is a little overpriced (but pricing is incredibly subjective), I really enjoy their Double Black, Green wasn't too bad and Blue is pretty good. Their foray into cheap scotch just didn't work--- still, I guess plenty of people drink JW Red.
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
November 04 2015 18:39 GMT
#1436
On November 04 2015 23:27 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 23:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
I was gonna say "hey, JW Red isn't that bad". Then I realize it costs the same as a lot of my nice "entry level" scotches and that I have half a bottle of it left even though my scotches only have a couple drinks left in each.

I don't know why, but I find JW Red to be particularly bad, at least for me. It's the only scotch (or whisky for that matter) that I found straight up unpleasant. Even the other "bad" whiskies were underwhelming, but not unpleasant like JW Red. It was bad enough that for a time I thought it must have been a bad batch. I felt the same way with the Irish bottling Powers Gold Label. Not my cup of tea.


Its just a preference thing. I like Red more than Black. (though not a particular JW fan) But i really like Ryes, and so that Spicey taste is more familiar to me.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 04 2015 19:08 GMT
#1437
On November 05 2015 03:39 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 23:27 Djzapz wrote:
On November 04 2015 23:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
I was gonna say "hey, JW Red isn't that bad". Then I realize it costs the same as a lot of my nice "entry level" scotches and that I have half a bottle of it left even though my scotches only have a couple drinks left in each.

I don't know why, but I find JW Red to be particularly bad, at least for me. It's the only scotch (or whisky for that matter) that I found straight up unpleasant. Even the other "bad" whiskies were underwhelming, but not unpleasant like JW Red. It was bad enough that for a time I thought it must have been a bad batch. I felt the same way with the Irish bottling Powers Gold Label. Not my cup of tea.


Its just a preference thing. I like Red more than Black. (though not a particular JW fan) But i really like Ryes, and so that Spicey taste is more familiar to me.

I don't mind ryes, the rye part really isn't what's offputting to me about the JW Red in a way that no other whisky I've ever tried has been. There's some sort of medicine/chemicals taste that I get, that's completely offputting. At first I thought it was bad peat, now I think it's chemical waste making its way into the mix
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-04 19:55:36
November 04 2015 19:29 GMT
#1438
On November 04 2015 23:41 caznitch wrote:
Recommendation: Just bought myself "booker's true barell burboun" and love it. One of the nicest straight up drinking bourbons I've ever had and it's 64% alcohol! Incredibly full flavor with that. I usually mix my bourbons (old fashions) but this one I'll drink straight. Its ~$75 in my part of the woods (Canada) so take that as you will. I'm guessing it requires a mortgage payment in Europe and costs $2 in the US

edit: http://whiskey.underthelabel.com/l/486/Booker-s-True-Barrel-Bourbon


It's 60€ at the cheapest online store I know. That's a little higher than mid range for me (never having bought a Whisky >45€ myself). I'm going to remember the recommendation for a friend's birthday, given I find a couple of others who chip in
Other than the Booker's, any favourite (entry) Burbon Whiskys? (Edit: I stand corrected, Whiskeys, right?)

On November 05 2015 04:08 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 03:39 Goumindong wrote:
On November 04 2015 23:27 Djzapz wrote:
On November 04 2015 23:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
I was gonna say "hey, JW Red isn't that bad". Then I realize it costs the same as a lot of my nice "entry level" scotches and that I have half a bottle of it left even though my scotches only have a couple drinks left in each.

I don't know why, but I find JW Red to be particularly bad, at least for me. It's the only scotch (or whisky for that matter) that I found straight up unpleasant. Even the other "bad" whiskies were underwhelming, but not unpleasant like JW Red. It was bad enough that for a time I thought it must have been a bad batch. I felt the same way with the Irish bottling Powers Gold Label. Not my cup of tea.


Its just a preference thing. I like Red more than Black. (though not a particular JW fan) But i really like Ryes, and so that Spicey taste is more familiar to me.

I don't mind ryes, the rye part really isn't what's offputting to me about the JW Red in a way that no other whisky I've ever tried has been. There's some sort of medicine/chemicals taste that I get, that's completely offputting. At first I thought it was bad peat, now I think it's chemical waste making its way into the mix

I have a similar "problem" with the Bowmore Legend. I bought it 14 month ago and it being mz first peated one, and a strong one too, it takes me quiet some time to drink it. Anyway, I tried it the other day and it did smell smoky, which is fine, but I also smelled new bicycle tyres. Not so pleasant. And this happened two separate times and havent tried it since. The tastings before I did not smell anything like it. Also I sometimes leave a little bit in the glass with a lid on it to dry up and smell the flavours after the fluid has evaporated, substracting the alcohol. I did not smell tyres after the Legend dried up.
When I'm back home, I'll try diluting it a bit, to say 35% or sth. and then have a sniff and taste it again.
If that doesn't help, I'm going to use it to marinate Tofu.
passive quaranstream fan
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
November 04 2015 20:14 GMT
#1439
On November 05 2015 04:08 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 03:39 Goumindong wrote:
On November 04 2015 23:27 Djzapz wrote:
On November 04 2015 23:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
I was gonna say "hey, JW Red isn't that bad". Then I realize it costs the same as a lot of my nice "entry level" scotches and that I have half a bottle of it left even though my scotches only have a couple drinks left in each.

I don't know why, but I find JW Red to be particularly bad, at least for me. It's the only scotch (or whisky for that matter) that I found straight up unpleasant. Even the other "bad" whiskies were underwhelming, but not unpleasant like JW Red. It was bad enough that for a time I thought it must have been a bad batch. I felt the same way with the Irish bottling Powers Gold Label. Not my cup of tea.


Its just a preference thing. I like Red more than Black. (though not a particular JW fan) But i really like Ryes, and so that Spicey taste is more familiar to me.

I don't mind ryes, the rye part really isn't what's offputting to me about the JW Red in a way that no other whisky I've ever tried has been. There's some sort of medicine/chemicals taste that I get, that's completely offputting. At first I thought it was bad peat, now I think it's chemical waste making its way into the mix

Probably less careful heads/tails management for one of the whiskies. I havent had red in a long time though (why buy blended scotch when I can buy an MGP rye for half the price?).
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 04 2015 22:37 GMT
#1440
What's MGP?
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