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CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
December 05 2011 20:13 GMT
#281
I'm no whiskey connoseur (no spell check sorry) but I'm going to a free whiskey party tonight in NYC. Tullamore dew / Canadian club. I like tullamore though but I like free shit even more. Cheers
Great pasta mom, very Korean. Even my crown leans to the side. Gangsta. --------->
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
December 05 2011 20:26 GMT
#282
Is it true you get a raw voice by drinking whiskey? :o
MantiZzl
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany52 Posts
December 05 2011 20:36 GMT
#283
I´m a fan of jim beam bourbon. I don´t if it´s a god one but thats the best I get in munich.
U don´t get a raw voice by drinking only whiskey, thats just a romour. if u smoke a cigarres to it u will^^
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 02:02:19
December 06 2011 01:54 GMT
#284
My collection. The Lapgroaig was on sale for $40 a bottle which is an amazing price, so I stocked up. I love peaty whiskey if you couldnt tell :D

Teachers Blended Scotch
Glenfiddich 12 and 15
Glenlivet 12
Lagavulin 16
Ardbeg 10 (my fav)
Laphroaig QC

For my next bottle im thinking about Talisker.


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Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
December 06 2011 02:07 GMT
#285
On December 06 2011 05:36 MantiZzl wrote:
I´m a fan of jim beam bourbon. I don´t if it´s a god one but thats the best I get in munich.
U don´t get a raw voice by drinking only whiskey, thats just a romour. if u smoke a cigarres to it u will^^

I just got to try Jim Bean Red Stag the other night, its not bad straight, I think it's flavored black cherry. Not bad, you should try it!
markinus
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden21 Posts
December 06 2011 02:11 GMT
#286
Not much of a collector, but a big fan. Lagvahulin 16y is a sure pick for at the moment. Love the rich, smokiness and that numbing sensation.
beer and starcraft lover!
Fivyrn
Profile Joined June 2010
31 Posts
December 07 2011 01:00 GMT
#287
On November 16 2011 20:29 Artrey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 18:14 Fivyrn wrote:
So this is a really stupid question and I apologize.

I kind of hate whiskey but I keep hoping I will start liking it. I have tried various cheaper bottles (Dewars with the white label, other whiskey's my friends drink, usually decent cheap-midrange whiskeys) and I always end up regretting it. Most likely whiskey is just not for me (I am terrible at drinking in general and usually forget about my drink for an hour) but I was hoping someone could put me on the right track for a whiskey I might like. I feel so much less manly describing this but I am the guy who likes the fruity beers and the belgian white wheat beers, not so much the dark beer. I generally end up drinking vodka mixed with soda/juice or some cheap light beers when it is party time... is there a whiskey for my wussy alcohol tastes?

Hmm. I can connect to this to some degree and I do not think the question is stupid at all (and yes, I think there are stupid questions! :D). Until half a year ago, all I thought when i heared whisk(e)y was that it tastes terribly and I can not stand it. I also had the feeling to vomit every time I tasted rum after an incident when I was 16.. ;D The whisk(e)y attitude also came from some cheap whisky+cola experiences as a teenager.

For me the change really came with Bushmills. I had a Bushmills 16yo at an Irish Pub and then bought a Bushmills 10yo Single Malt myself. Also bought a 10yo Glenmorangie but I did not like it at all the first time I drank it. Same for my first Talisker 10yo. Now within 2-3 Weeks of drinking a dram of Bushmills every 2-3 days, my taste developed insanely. It was totally unbelievably for myself, but within a few weeks, I suddenly liked the Glenmorangie and shortly after even the Talisker. The next hurdle was Laphroig, but since then I really fell in love with all of my whiskys and now I even enjoy some good Rum (Appleton Estate Extra 12yo is a dream!) or even Gin which I never drank pure before. Especially warm. Now it just works and I enjoy the different tastes, which also makes me enjoy cocktails a lot more, as you do not just try to cover the alcoholic taste with fruit (and vodka >.<) but take it as part of the taste mix.

I think the important thing is:
- Start with something easy for beginners (10yo Bushmills Single Malt worked wonders for me, Auchentoshan should work too - I think all the triple destilled stuff is easier to begin with)
- Start in a good mood, not when you are pissed or drunk
- Start with the right glasses (Glencairn or nosing glasses, but sherry glasses will do)
- Smell it. Turn the glass around to let it breath and put your nose into the glass. Smell deeply. Actually the smell is even more important than the taste. It is a huge part of the overall experience. This is why the right glasses are so important.
- Experiment with the whisky. Only take really small sips. Hold it in your mouth for a while. Open and close your mouth while tasting to let some air in. Vary all that stuff and play around. You will notice a lot of differences and details. I probably need like 30 minutes for 1 dram (2.4 cl)...
- Let your taste develop over time. Don't overdo it. Just take a dram from time to time and try to taste the details and enjoy it. You will be surprised how fast your taste changes.
- Keep trying

I made the same experience with my (now) stepfather and my dad btw. Forced them to try it and while at first they were really uncomfortable with the Islay Whiskys, they liked it a bit more every time. They still do not love them, but they can see why someone would appreciate those. But both - who never drank Single Malt before - enjoyed their first Bushmills.

The 10yo Bushmills is actually pretty cheap as well. 20€ a bottle here. Later on you might consider it a whiskey for girls as it is really mild and not does not come with strong flavors, but to get started, I've yet to see something better for a beginner. And even though most Blends are composed to be mild and easy for starters, I would rather suggest to try triple destilled Single Malt, as it is free of Grain Whisky and overall better in quality imho.

Bushmills should pay me with free bottles for this shameless advertising!


OK it has been a few weeks here is my update:

I bought the Bushmills 10 year and... I liked it! YAY!

After a week I definitely was able to appreciate the flavor and smells a lot more than at first. It became much less harsh feeling and I was really able to taste subtleties that I could not on my first few tastings. I started wondering about if this was a 'girly' whiskey I wonder what a more full flavored whiskey would be like. before two weeks I decided to make another purchase. I heard someone in this thread really liked Laphroaig 10 year and you mentioned it in your post as well so I got it.

I opened the bottle and almost shit myself. It smelt like burning leather and mesquite to me. I poured a small amount and could barely even get the glass to my lips. I didn't finish that pour and seriously regretted my decision. After some thinking I realized that going that smokey was a terrible idea. I have tried it once or twice since then and it was much easier to handle but I still do not like it (but I have hope that I may eventually).

So now here I am, my set of two Glencairn Whisky Glasses are in the mail and I am searching for something to fill them and would like some help. I definitely want to avoid anything too smokey but besides that I don't really understand the flavor classifications. I am going to guess the Bushmills 10 year was as light and as delicate as you can get. I want more flavour but maybe just a step or two up. Perhaps I should try a Glenfiddich 12 year or a Glenlivet 12 year? Maybe something a touch richer but still low on the smoke scale, thought I sort of want it to be just a touch smokier than the smokeless Bushmills so I can start to get used to it, but definitely still on the low end of smokey.

Thanks for anyone who can help!
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
December 07 2011 02:55 GMT
#288
Macallan or the ones you listed.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
abalam
Profile Joined October 2011
Switzerland316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 12:20:55
December 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#289
On December 07 2011 10:00 Fivyrn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 20:29 Artrey wrote:
On November 16 2011 18:14 Fivyrn wrote:
So this is a really stupid question and I apologize.

I kind of hate whiskey but I keep hoping I will start liking it. I have tried various cheaper bottles (Dewars with the white label, other whiskey's my friends drink, usually decent cheap-midrange whiskeys) and I always end up regretting it. Most likely whiskey is just not for me (I am terrible at drinking in general and usually forget about my drink for an hour) but I was hoping someone could put me on the right track for a whiskey I might like. I feel so much less manly describing this but I am the guy who likes the fruity beers and the belgian white wheat beers, not so much the dark beer. I generally end up drinking vodka mixed with soda/juice or some cheap light beers when it is party time... is there a whiskey for my wussy alcohol tastes?

Hmm. I can connect to this to some degree and I do not think the question is stupid at all (and yes, I think there are stupid questions! :D). Until half a year ago, all I thought when i heared whisk(e)y was that it tastes terribly and I can not stand it. I also had the feeling to vomit every time I tasted rum after an incident when I was 16.. ;D The whisk(e)y attitude also came from some cheap whisky+cola experiences as a teenager.

For me the change really came with Bushmills. I had a Bushmills 16yo at an Irish Pub and then bought a Bushmills 10yo Single Malt myself. Also bought a 10yo Glenmorangie but I did not like it at all the first time I drank it. Same for my first Talisker 10yo. Now within 2-3 Weeks of drinking a dram of Bushmills every 2-3 days, my taste developed insanely. It was totally unbelievably for myself, but within a few weeks, I suddenly liked the Glenmorangie and shortly after even the Talisker. The next hurdle was Laphroig, but since then I really fell in love with all of my whiskys and now I even enjoy some good Rum (Appleton Estate Extra 12yo is a dream!) or even Gin which I never drank pure before. Especially warm. Now it just works and I enjoy the different tastes, which also makes me enjoy cocktails a lot more, as you do not just try to cover the alcoholic taste with fruit (and vodka >.<) but take it as part of the taste mix.

I think the important thing is:
- Start with something easy for beginners (10yo Bushmills Single Malt worked wonders for me, Auchentoshan should work too - I think all the triple destilled stuff is easier to begin with)
- Start in a good mood, not when you are pissed or drunk
- Start with the right glasses (Glencairn or nosing glasses, but sherry glasses will do)
- Smell it. Turn the glass around to let it breath and put your nose into the glass. Smell deeply. Actually the smell is even more important than the taste. It is a huge part of the overall experience. This is why the right glasses are so important.
- Experiment with the whisky. Only take really small sips. Hold it in your mouth for a while. Open and close your mouth while tasting to let some air in. Vary all that stuff and play around. You will notice a lot of differences and details. I probably need like 30 minutes for 1 dram (2.4 cl)...
- Let your taste develop over time. Don't overdo it. Just take a dram from time to time and try to taste the details and enjoy it. You will be surprised how fast your taste changes.
- Keep trying

I made the same experience with my (now) stepfather and my dad btw. Forced them to try it and while at first they were really uncomfortable with the Islay Whiskys, they liked it a bit more every time. They still do not love them, but they can see why someone would appreciate those. But both - who never drank Single Malt before - enjoyed their first Bushmills.

The 10yo Bushmills is actually pretty cheap as well. 20€ a bottle here. Later on you might consider it a whiskey for girls as it is really mild and not does not come with strong flavors, but to get started, I've yet to see something better for a beginner. And even though most Blends are composed to be mild and easy for starters, I would rather suggest to try triple destilled Single Malt, as it is free of Grain Whisky and overall better in quality imho.

Bushmills should pay me with free bottles for this shameless advertising!


OK it has been a few weeks here is my update:

I bought the Bushmills 10 year and... I liked it! YAY!

After a week I definitely was able to appreciate the flavor and smells a lot more than at first. It became much less harsh feeling and I was really able to taste subtleties that I could not on my first few tastings. I started wondering about if this was a 'girly' whiskey I wonder what a more full flavored whiskey would be like. before two weeks I decided to make another purchase. I heard someone in this thread really liked Laphroaig 10 year and you mentioned it in your post as well so I got it.

I opened the bottle and almost shit myself. It smelt like burning leather and mesquite to me. I poured a small amount and could barely even get the glass to my lips. I didn't finish that pour and seriously regretted my decision. After some thinking I realized that going that smokey was a terrible idea. I have tried it once or twice since then and it was much easier to handle but I still do not like it (but I have hope that I may eventually).

So now here I am, my set of two Glencairn Whisky Glasses are in the mail and I am searching for something to fill them and would like some help. I definitely want to avoid anything too smokey but besides that I don't really understand the flavor classifications. I am going to guess the Bushmills 10 year was as light and as delicate as you can get. I want more flavour but maybe just a step or two up. Perhaps I should try a Glenfiddich 12 year or a Glenlivet 12 year? Maybe something a touch richer but still low on the smoke scale, thought I sort of want it to be just a touch smokier than the smokeless Bushmills so I can start to get used to it, but definitely still on the low end of smokey.

Thanks for anyone who can help!


try yamazaki 10 and hakushu 10 (or 12) if you can get your hands on them for a decent price (say here ) they will taste unlike anything you've ever had before.

if that is not an option glenfiddich, glenlivet, highland park, macallan and maybe balvenie are all worth exploring aswell.

edit: oh and add the glengoyne to your list of "starter whiskys" aswell.
jerryjohnston
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan34 Posts
December 07 2011 11:39 GMT
#290
this thread makes me happy. getting lots of good whisk(e)y advice learning lots of new stuff. thanks for being awesome, TL.
Artrey
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 19:18:55
December 07 2011 16:11 GMT
#291
On December 07 2011 10:00 Fivyrn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 20:29 Artrey wrote:
On November 16 2011 18:14 Fivyrn wrote:
So this is a really stupid question and I apologize.

I kind of hate whiskey but I keep hoping I will start liking it. I have tried various cheaper bottles (Dewars with the white label, other whiskey's my friends drink, usually decent cheap-midrange whiskeys) and I always end up regretting it. Most likely whiskey is just not for me (I am terrible at drinking in general and usually forget about my drink for an hour) but I was hoping someone could put me on the right track for a whiskey I might like. I feel so much less manly describing this but I am the guy who likes the fruity beers and the belgian white wheat beers, not so much the dark beer. I generally end up drinking vodka mixed with soda/juice or some cheap light beers when it is party time... is there a whiskey for my wussy alcohol tastes?

Hmm. I can connect to this to some degree and I do not think the question is stupid at all (and yes, I think there are stupid questions! :D). Until half a year ago, all I thought when i heared whisk(e)y was that it tastes terribly and I can not stand it. I also had the feeling to vomit every time I tasted rum after an incident when I was 16.. ;D The whisk(e)y attitude also came from some cheap whisky+cola experiences as a teenager.

For me the change really came with Bushmills. I had a Bushmills 16yo at an Irish Pub and then bought a Bushmills 10yo Single Malt myself. Also bought a 10yo Glenmorangie but I did not like it at all the first time I drank it. Same for my first Talisker 10yo. Now within 2-3 Weeks of drinking a dram of Bushmills every 2-3 days, my taste developed insanely. It was totally unbelievably for myself, but within a few weeks, I suddenly liked the Glenmorangie and shortly after even the Talisker. The next hurdle was Laphroig, but since then I really fell in love with all of my whiskys and now I even enjoy some good Rum (Appleton Estate Extra 12yo is a dream!) or even Gin which I never drank pure before. Especially warm. Now it just works and I enjoy the different tastes, which also makes me enjoy cocktails a lot more, as you do not just try to cover the alcoholic taste with fruit (and vodka >.<) but take it as part of the taste mix.

I think the important thing is:
- Start with something easy for beginners (10yo Bushmills Single Malt worked wonders for me, Auchentoshan should work too - I think all the triple destilled stuff is easier to begin with)
- Start in a good mood, not when you are pissed or drunk
- Start with the right glasses (Glencairn or nosing glasses, but sherry glasses will do)
- Smell it. Turn the glass around to let it breath and put your nose into the glass. Smell deeply. Actually the smell is even more important than the taste. It is a huge part of the overall experience. This is why the right glasses are so important.
- Experiment with the whisky. Only take really small sips. Hold it in your mouth for a while. Open and close your mouth while tasting to let some air in. Vary all that stuff and play around. You will notice a lot of differences and details. I probably need like 30 minutes for 1 dram (2.4 cl)...
- Let your taste develop over time. Don't overdo it. Just take a dram from time to time and try to taste the details and enjoy it. You will be surprised how fast your taste changes.
- Keep trying

I made the same experience with my (now) stepfather and my dad btw. Forced them to try it and while at first they were really uncomfortable with the Islay Whiskys, they liked it a bit more every time. They still do not love them, but they can see why someone would appreciate those. But both - who never drank Single Malt before - enjoyed their first Bushmills.

The 10yo Bushmills is actually pretty cheap as well. 20€ a bottle here. Later on you might consider it a whiskey for girls as it is really mild and not does not come with strong flavors, but to get started, I've yet to see something better for a beginner. And even though most Blends are composed to be mild and easy for starters, I would rather suggest to try triple destilled Single Malt, as it is free of Grain Whisky and overall better in quality imho.

Bushmills should pay me with free bottles for this shameless advertising!


OK it has been a few weeks here is my update:

I bought the Bushmills 10 year and... I liked it! YAY!

After a week I definitely was able to appreciate the flavor and smells a lot more than at first. It became much less harsh feeling and I was really able to taste subtleties that I could not on my first few tastings. I started wondering about if this was a 'girly' whiskey I wonder what a more full flavored whiskey would be like. before two weeks I decided to make another purchase. I heard someone in this thread really liked Laphroaig 10 year and you mentioned it in your post as well so I got it.

I opened the bottle and almost shit myself. It smelt like burning leather and mesquite to me. I poured a small amount and could barely even get the glass to my lips. I didn't finish that pour and seriously regretted my decision. After some thinking I realized that going that smokey was a terrible idea. I have tried it once or twice since then and it was much easier to handle but I still do not like it (but I have hope that I may eventually).

So now here I am, my set of two Glencairn Whisky Glasses are in the mail and I am searching for something to fill them and would like some help. I definitely want to avoid anything too smokey but besides that I don't really understand the flavor classifications. I am going to guess the Bushmills 10 year was as light and as delicate as you can get. I want more flavour but maybe just a step or two up. Perhaps I should try a Glenfiddich 12 year or a Glenlivet 12 year? Maybe something a touch richer but still low on the smoke scale, thought I sort of want it to be just a touch smokier than the smokeless Bushmills so I can start to get used to it, but definitely still on the low end of smokey.

Thanks for anyone who can help!


Happy to hear that it helped you. Well, as stated before, I think the next step in natural progression would be a mild highland whisky. Nothing peaty, nothing with Sherry Casks (that would be the third step). Also funny to read your Laphroiag experiences. ;D I think that is quite natural.

So I suggest to go for Glenmorangie Original (the most consumed whisky in scotland!) which should also be easily available and good in price/value but still mild for a starter - yet different to the triple destilled bushmills. I am actually starting to like the Glenmorangie Original more and more and I also prefer it over the Glenmorangie Lasanta that I tasted recently. I think Glenfiddich 12yo is a bit too boring and simple. As Speysider, The Glenlivet 18yo also works (havent tasted the 12yo and 15yo), but I don't think the price is worth it over the Glenmorangie for a starter.

Apart from Glenmorangie, my highland whisky experience is pretty limited. Glendronach 15yo and Dalwhinnie 15yo have a good reputation. Would like to taste those myself. :D

For Sherry taste my love is Auchentoshan Three Woods if you can spend a bit more (50€) or Balvenie Double Wood or Macallan Sherry Cask 10yo for the normal price (30€). Those would work pretty well for a beginner.

There is a german online shop (http://www.whisky.de/shop - actually it's the biggest one in Germany) that I kinda like for their ratings. On the left side, you can browse the regions, "Suche" is "search". If you select a product (like http://www.whisky.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p13077_Glenmorangie-Original.html) and scroll down to the bottom, you get a rating matrix. The categories are:
- Sherry/Portwhine Cask (nothing to extreme)
- Smoke/Peat (medical) (nothing to extreme)
- Sweet <-neutral-> Dry
- Fruity <-both-> Spicy
- Finish (very short to very long)
- Overall Impression (light, mild, medium, strong, intense)
- Quality

So far I have not been disappointed by following those ratings (especially the "Quality" one) roughly for my shopping decisions and I can kinda relate to it. Of course taste is highly subjective and can be argued, but it feels like the kind of "swarm intelligence" of a 100+ ratings per whisky match my personal taste pretty closely. The shop is really huge, so there is a lot of ratings, even for rare or expensive whiskys ("Geschmacksbewertung - (xx Bewertungen)" in the red header = rating count from different users). I think the site should be pretty self-explanatory even for a non-german speaker. If there are any questions, shoot. Maybe it helps you as well.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
December 07 2011 16:18 GMT
#292
I like a good shot o whiskey in coffee with whipped cream and a bit of sugar, we call it irish coffee even though it's problaby not very Irish, still delicious though!!
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
sudo.era
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States300 Posts
December 07 2011 16:22 GMT
#293
Whiskey tastes like a repulsive medicine and gets you drunk. I don't think I appreciate it much past that.
Gleen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brazil707 Posts
December 07 2011 17:06 GMT
#294
I only drink Jack Daniels.
I'm nowhere near good, but I still have fun playing with my probes
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 07 2011 17:12 GMT
#295
Im more of a Champagne guy. But I love me some of my dad's Ginger Ale every now and then.
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Artrey
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 19:08:43
December 07 2011 19:07 GMT
#296
On December 08 2011 02:12 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
Im more of a Champagne guy. But I love me some of my dad's Ginger Ale every now and then.

Because non-alcoholic soft drinks (ginger ale..) and girl wine belong into a whisky thread? ;o)

@topic: just got myself the Balvenie Doublewood. Collection growing, yay!
chomsky
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada97 Posts
December 07 2011 19:22 GMT
#297
Is anyone familiar with Forty Creek? It's my Dad's favourite and I was hoping to buy him a bottle of something for Christmas, is there anything very similar to Forty Creek but a little more high-end?
"Not to take this post too seriously, but..." -Chef
nFxion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
December 07 2011 19:22 GMT
#298
I've become a fan of Jack Honey and Wild Turkey's Honey whiskey as well ;; I feel like im turning into a drunk weenie the pooh D;

But Gentleman Jack/Single Barrel are my favorites at the moment.
manan
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria6 Posts
December 07 2011 19:55 GMT
#299
My favourite at the time is the Balvenie 21 years Port Wood. I mostly drink whiskys with a rich fruit or spicy flavour, often blended ones or singles which are put into special casts after the normal aging prozess.
Others i really like are the Jonny Walker Golden Label, Bushmills 1608, Laphroaig 15 years(one of the exeptions of me not liking smoky tasting whiskys and im still not sure how to pronounce the name ) and Murray McDavid Macallan 1998.

What i have standing in my AlcShelf right now:
Jura 10 years
Murray McDavid Macallan 1998
Laphroaig 15 years
Coal Illa 27 years
Ben nevis 12 years(sadly only one more glass )
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
December 07 2011 23:26 GMT
#300
On December 08 2011 01:22 sudo.era wrote:
Whiskey tastes like a repulsive medicine and gets you drunk. I don't think I appreciate it much past that.


You'll like it more when you grow up. I didn't start liking whiskey until I was 18.
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