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Pure-SC2
United Kingdom1440 Posts
However, I recently let a friend stay at my house while I was away, and knowing I like whisky, he got me a 43 year old A.D. Rattray single malt. I'm too scared to drink it  I've tasted it a couple of times now though, and it's got a real punch. But it feels like I must save it for a special occasion. https://www.weinquelle.com/artikel/Tomintoul_A_D_Rattray_43_Years_9858_e.html | ||
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FranzP
France270 Posts
On November 21 2011 09:44 Honeybadger wrote: All whiskys respond differently to water. The stuff I drink (glenfiddich 12, aberlour 12) really blossom with a little water. I don't like adding ice because that dilutes it oddly (some people like it because it makes the whisky change as you drink it) and instead I use "whisky stones" ![[image loading]](http://whiskeyapostle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/ba37_whiskey_stones_glass.jpg) soapstone cubes that you freeze and they retain their cold-ness a long time, without diluting your whisky. Reusable nigh-forever too. And they're cheap (get a pack, I use them in all of my drinks, even soda!) When it comes to moderately priced stuff, go for simple flavors. More "complex" stuff at the lower tier will be hidden by the alcohol to all but the most refined palates. For blends, I just drink it neat. JW black is my go-to blend. Whisky doesn't need to be cold. Oftentimes cold will mute subtle scents and flavors, though it does knock down alcohol bite as well. But that can result in the peat overwhelming things (with scotch.) Just try things and see what you like. Contrary to what snobs will tell you, drink it however you like it. Just try not to waste money by mixing with high-end stuff (rum/tequila are exceptions. Good rum and tequila make better drinks) At first, you may want to water it down more than you will later, just to get into the "groove" of all the great things scotch has to offer, without having your head be blown off by the alcohol content. I actually just blended the last 20% of my JW black with a full bottle of glenfiddich. It's actually much better than either one alone! JW black is super smokey, and glenfiddich's intensely bright flavors really mingle well. as for bourbon foods, cheese and bread, strong fruits, etc. stuff with strong flavors goes well with whisky. A fillet of roast cod or a salad will be overwhelmed by the liquor. You want strong flavors. I don't think you should put them in soda because you might damage them and dilute a bit in your drink. Soapstone is primarily composed of talc that dilute into some acid, and some sodas contain phospgoric acid in which talc can be diluted. I don't think it's harmful though (I'm not an expert) but you're definitly damaging your stones. You can go check there : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soapstone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoric_acid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola#Ingredients | ||
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
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Tufas
Austria2259 Posts
I always found rum superior to whisky but now that I am getting older, I want to give whisky a try. So. A friend of mine told me that at the beginning, I should try different cheaper whiskys to get a general idea of what I like. Then, I can buy the more expensive stuff from the whiskys/blends/grains I actually liked. My plan is to buy a lot of cheaper whisky and try all of them to some extent. The rest will be used at a party, so I can buy as much whisky as I like (not more than 5) and everytihng will be included in the party and paid for by everyone who drinks the rest (and they are going to.) I did not buy anything yet and I just wanted to ask what you think about my choice of (cheap!) whisky to begin with and get the differences. I am also going to include the price. Oh : There is not going to be a lot of U.S. whiskey - or none actually - as they are more expensive then uk/canadian/irish. Here we go William Lawson's 9,59 € (blended scotch whisky) Teacher´s 10,39 € (blended scotch whisky) Glen Grant 11,39 € (single malt scotch from the highlands) Famous Grouse 13,19 € (blended scotch whisky) Grant's Family Reserve 12,59 € (blended scotch whisky ) J&B Rare 14,39 € (blended scotch whisky ) Canadian Club 14,39 € (well I am not even sure what it is, but its the cheapest from canada in austria) Kilbeggan 14,99 € (well I was told not to buy that one if I buy jameson and tullamore dew, especially if the rest is even cheaper) Tullamore Dew 14,79 € (irish blended whiskey ) Jameson 14,69 € (irish single malt whiskey) NOW. What do I want from you ? I want you to tell me when I took the "start with the cheap ones" too literally and am actually about to buy complete trash that you can only mix to make it trinkable. I was given a budget of 60-70 € for 5 whisky bottles. 2-3 of them are going to get mixed anyway, so they can be cheap. The rest should be trinkable, please. And just to give the next available whiskys with their prices (if you think that the above whiskys are absolute trash and I should buy other ones alltogether - but please note : I cannot buy more that one of those above 15 € as it is really hard to tell my buddies why I bought so (for us poor students) expensive whisky): Dewar's White Label 15,79 € Bulleit 16,79 € Wild Turkey 8j 16,79 € Dunphy's 17,79 € Famous Grouse 'Black Grouse' 17,99 € Jim Beam Choice Green Label 5j 18,39 € Cutty Sark 18,39 € Jim Beam Rye 18,39 € Makers Mark 'Red Cap' 19,18 € Tyrconnell 19,39 € Chivas Regal 19,59 € Jim Beam 'Black Label' 8j 19,59 € Old Grand Dad 19,79 € Seagram's 7 Crown 19,99 € Jim Beam Devil's Cut 19,99 € Old Grand Dad '114 proof' 20,79 € Powers 20,79 € Elijah Craig 12j 20,86 € Wild Turkey Rare Breed 20,99 € Glenlivet 12jg 20,99 € Crown Royal 20,99 € Glenfiddich 12j Special Reserve 21,59 € At the end you get a MAYBE THANK YOU VERY MUCH if you actually took the time and responded. And well, for obvious reasons, it would be nice if you actually knew the whisky I am talking about. A "I dont think that is is quite good" does not help me at all. THANKS. | ||
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stokes17
United States1411 Posts
On November 30 2011 22:46 Tufas wrote: Hello. I always found rum superior to whisky but now that I am getting older, I want to give whisky a try. So. A friend of mine told me that at the beginning, I should try different cheaper whiskys to get a general idea of what I like. Then, I can buy the more expensive stuff from the whiskys/blends/grains I actually liked. My plan is to buy a lot of cheaper whisky and try all of them to some extent. The rest will be used at a party, so I can buy as much whisky as I like (not more than 5) and everytihng will be included in the party and paid for by everyone who drinks the rest (and they are going to.) I did not buy anything yet and I just wanted to ask what you think about my choice of (cheap!) whisky to begin with and get the differences. I am also going to include the price. Oh : There is not going to be a lot of U.S. whiskey - or none actually - as they are more expensive then uk/canadian/irish. Here we go William Lawson's 9,59 € (blended scotch whisky) Teacher´s 10,39 € (blended scotch whisky) Glen Grant 11,39 € (single malt scotch from the highlands) Famous Grouse 13,19 € (blended scotch whisky) Grant's Family Reserve 12,59 € (blended scotch whisky ) J&B Rare 14,39 € (blended scotch whisky ) Canadian Club 14,39 € (well I am not even sure what it is, but its the cheapest from canada in austria) Kilbeggan 14,99 € (well I was told not to buy that one if I buy jameson and tullamore dew, especially if the rest is even cheaper) Tullamore Dew 14,79 € (irish blended whiskey ) Jameson 14,69 € (irish single malt whiskey) NOW. What do I want from you ? I want you to tell me when I took the "start with the cheap ones" too literally and am actually about to buy complete trash that you can only mix to make it trinkable. I was given a budget of 60-70 € for 5 whisky bottles. 2-3 of them are going to get mixed anyway, so they can be cheap. The rest should be trinkable, please. And just to give the next available whiskys with their prices (if you think that the above whiskys are absolute trash and I should buy other ones alltogether - but please note : I cannot buy more that one of those above 15 € as it is really hard to tell my buddies why I bought so (for us poor students) expensive whisky): Dewar's White Label 15,79 € Bulleit 16,79 € Wild Turkey 8j 16,79 € Dunphy's 17,79 € Famous Grouse 'Black Grouse' 17,99 € Jim Beam Choice Green Label 5j 18,39 € Cutty Sark 18,39 € Jim Beam Rye 18,39 € Makers Mark 'Red Cap' 19,18 € Tyrconnell 19,39 € Chivas Regal 19,59 € Jim Beam 'Black Label' 8j 19,59 € Old Grand Dad 19,79 € Seagram's 7 Crown 19,99 € Jim Beam Devil's Cut 19,99 € Old Grand Dad '114 proof' 20,79 € Powers 20,79 € Elijah Craig 12j 20,86 € Wild Turkey Rare Breed 20,99 € Glenlivet 12jg 20,99 € Crown Royal 20,99 € Glenfiddich 12j Special Reserve 21,59 € At the end you get a MAYBE THANK YOU VERY MUCH if you actually took the time and responded. And well, for obvious reasons, it would be nice if you actually knew the whisky I am talking about. A "I dont think that is is quite good" does not help me at all. THANKS. Hmm Teacher's is good for the price def get that Jameson is ok (I think bushmill black bush is better for similar price/style). Also Jameson is not a single malt. Its a single distillery whiskey. It uses unmalted green barely in addition to malted barley Grant's family reserve and JR reserve are TERRIBLE don't get those Glenfiddich 12 is pretty good for the price but i think Highland Park 12 is similar in price and vastly superior for bourbon my personal favorites for bang for buck are Wild Turkey 101 and Jim Beam Black Label. That would give you a pretty good sampling I think, 1 cheap blend, 1 decent single malt (or excellent if you get highland Park 12), 1 Irish Whiskey, and 1 bourbon. I guess for the 5th get a Canadian, but I'm not very familiar with those so I won't make a pick | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On December 01 2011 04:06 stokes17 wrote: Jameson is ok (I think bushmill black bush is better for similar price/style). Also Jameson is not a single malt. Its a single distillery whiskey. It uses unmalted green barely in addition to malted barley But to quote Detective McNulty, "That's Protestant whiskey." The best Bourbon is Old Rip Van Winkle. It's not easy to find and it's expensive but a treat. George T. Stagg is great as well. For the poor man, there's no shame in bottle of Wild Turkey in your drawer. | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Tufas
Austria2259 Posts
Appreciate it. | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
After you see that there is a "Rarity Tasting" for 65 EUR and get told, that the 1936 (!) bottled whiskey, that was tasted there normally goes for 80 EUR each glass! ... Well here goes nothing! I actually call myself a "Whiskey Ignorant". I'm often in a Whiskey Bar/Pub and there the chef tells me, that some whiskeys are smelling like "a rainy day in summer" o.O what the hell! But ok... I like drinking a whiskey and I know if the whiskey tastes good or bad (for me). Everything else ("Oh, there is much oak and vanilla...") is too crazy for me But ok, what do I have at home at the moment... not much! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SoZb9.jpg) To the left is a French (!) whiskey! Before you say "nooooo", this is actually a nice, tender whiskey - aged 8 years! I was working in the town, this whiskey is distilled and made a little tour there! Nice people and sure you can give it a try! The other two are from mentioned Whiskey Festival and still unopened. (need a good reason  ) In the middle a nice 13y old Aultmore with a sherry finish! And to the right the "heavy stuff": aged 21y, raw cask with 56,4% alcohol! This will knock you from your socks :D Yeah, there are stronger (I think my "best" was a Japanese whiskey with 64%...) but this is also quite nice! So I have like "three levels" of whiskey at my place ... and damn I will open the Aultmore now, you got me in the mood | ||
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Sqalevon
Netherlands523 Posts
On November 30 2011 22:46 Tufas wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hello. I always found rum superior to whisky but now that I am getting older, I want to give whisky a try. So. A friend of mine told me that at the beginning, I should try different cheaper whiskys to get a general idea of what I like. Then, I can buy the more expensive stuff from the whiskys/blends/grains I actually liked. My plan is to buy a lot of cheaper whisky and try all of them to some extent. The rest will be used at a party, so I can buy as much whisky as I like (not more than 5) and everytihng will be included in the party and paid for by everyone who drinks the rest (and they are going to.) I did not buy anything yet and I just wanted to ask what you think about my choice of (cheap!) whisky to begin with and get the differences. I am also going to include the price. Oh : There is not going to be a lot of U.S. whiskey - or none actually - as they are more expensive then uk/canadian/irish. Here we go William Lawson's 9,59 € (blended scotch whisky) Teacher´s 10,39 € (blended scotch whisky) Glen Grant 11,39 € (single malt scotch from the highlands) Famous Grouse 13,19 € (blended scotch whisky) Grant's Family Reserve 12,59 € (blended scotch whisky ) J&B Rare 14,39 € (blended scotch whisky ) Canadian Club 14,39 € (well I am not even sure what it is, but its the cheapest from canada in austria) Kilbeggan 14,99 € (well I was told not to buy that one if I buy jameson and tullamore dew, especially if the rest is even cheaper) Tullamore Dew 14,79 € (irish blended whiskey ) Jameson 14,69 € (irish single malt whiskey) NOW. What do I want from you ? I want you to tell me when I took the "start with the cheap ones" too literally and am actually about to buy complete trash that you can only mix to make it trinkable. I was given a budget of 60-70 € for 5 whisky bottles. 2-3 of them are going to get mixed anyway, so they can be cheap. The rest should be trinkable, please. And just to give the next available whiskys with their prices (if you think that the above whiskys are absolute trash and I should buy other ones alltogether - but please note : I cannot buy more that one of those above 15 € as it is really hard to tell my buddies why I bought so (for us poor students) expensive whisky): Dewar's White Label 15,79 € Bulleit 16,79 € Wild Turkey 8j 16,79 € Dunphy's 17,79 € Famous Grouse 'Black Grouse' 17,99 € Jim Beam Choice Green Label 5j 18,39 € Cutty Sark 18,39 € Jim Beam Rye 18,39 € Makers Mark 'Red Cap' 19,18 € Tyrconnell 19,39 € Chivas Regal 19,59 € Jim Beam 'Black Label' 8j 19,59 € Old Grand Dad 19,79 € Seagram's 7 Crown 19,99 € Jim Beam Devil's Cut 19,99 € Old Grand Dad '114 proof' 20,79 € Powers 20,79 € Elijah Craig 12j 20,86 € Wild Turkey Rare Breed 20,99 € Glenlivet 12jg 20,99 € Crown Royal 20,99 € Glenfiddich 12j Special Reserve 21,59 € At the end you get a MAYBE THANK YOU VERY MUCH if you actually took the time and responded. And well, for obvious reasons, it would be nice if you actually knew the whisky I am talking about. A "I dont think that is is quite good" does not help me at all. THANKS. Out of those I can recommend Teachers, Jameson and Glenlivet 12. I haven't tried most of them, I'm not a big fan of bourbons. I prefer Glenlivet 12 over Glenfiddich 12 Chivas Regal 12 is also good. | ||
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bootyclapthunder
United States82 Posts
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Equity213
Canada873 Posts
On November 30 2011 22:46 Tufas wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hello. I always found rum superior to whisky but now that I am getting older, I want to give whisky a try. So. A friend of mine told me that at the beginning, I should try different cheaper whiskys to get a general idea of what I like. Then, I can buy the more expensive stuff from the whiskys/blends/grains I actually liked. My plan is to buy a lot of cheaper whisky and try all of them to some extent. The rest will be used at a party, so I can buy as much whisky as I like (not more than 5) and everytihng will be included in the party and paid for by everyone who drinks the rest (and they are going to.) I did not buy anything yet and I just wanted to ask what you think about my choice of (cheap!) whisky to begin with and get the differences. I am also going to include the price. Oh : There is not going to be a lot of U.S. whiskey - or none actually - as they are more expensive then uk/canadian/irish. Here we go William Lawson's 9,59 € (blended scotch whisky) Teacher´s 10,39 € (blended scotch whisky) Glen Grant 11,39 € (single malt scotch from the highlands) Famous Grouse 13,19 € (blended scotch whisky) Grant's Family Reserve 12,59 € (blended scotch whisky ) J&B Rare 14,39 € (blended scotch whisky ) Canadian Club 14,39 € (well I am not even sure what it is, but its the cheapest from canada in austria) Kilbeggan 14,99 € (well I was told not to buy that one if I buy jameson and tullamore dew, especially if the rest is even cheaper) Tullamore Dew 14,79 € (irish blended whiskey ) Jameson 14,69 € (irish single malt whiskey) NOW. What do I want from you ? I want you to tell me when I took the "start with the cheap ones" too literally and am actually about to buy complete trash that you can only mix to make it trinkable. I was given a budget of 60-70 € for 5 whisky bottles. 2-3 of them are going to get mixed anyway, so they can be cheap. The rest should be trinkable, please. And just to give the next available whiskys with their prices (if you think that the above whiskys are absolute trash and I should buy other ones alltogether - but please note : I cannot buy more that one of those above 15 € as it is really hard to tell my buddies why I bought so (for us poor students) expensive whisky): Dewar's White Label 15,79 € Bulleit 16,79 € Wild Turkey 8j 16,79 € Dunphy's 17,79 € Famous Grouse 'Black Grouse' 17,99 € Jim Beam Choice Green Label 5j 18,39 € Cutty Sark 18,39 € Jim Beam Rye 18,39 € Makers Mark 'Red Cap' 19,18 € Tyrconnell 19,39 € Chivas Regal 19,59 € Jim Beam 'Black Label' 8j 19,59 € Old Grand Dad 19,79 € Seagram's 7 Crown 19,99 € Jim Beam Devil's Cut 19,99 € Old Grand Dad '114 proof' 20,79 € Powers 20,79 € Elijah Craig 12j 20,86 € Wild Turkey Rare Breed 20,99 € Glenlivet 12jg 20,99 € Crown Royal 20,99 € Glenfiddich 12j Special Reserve 21,59 € At the end you get a MAYBE THANK YOU VERY MUCH if you actually took the time and responded. And well, for obvious reasons, it would be nice if you actually knew the whisky I am talking about. A "I dont think that is is quite good" does not help me at all. THANKS. Im kind of a whiskey noob but I can second the reccomendation for Teachers and Glenfiddich 12, I have a bottle of each and enjoy them both very much. Glenfiddich 12 is a great place to start with single malts, its sweet fruity and uncomplicated. Teachers is just a great blend for mixing. | ||
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sl0v
Norway51 Posts
My "bar" currently hold: -Famous Grouse -Ardbeg -Talisker -Dalwhinnie (highland, not smokey) -Cragganmore -Tullamore Dew (Mostly for mixing irish carbombs or if a friend wants a whiskey and coke etc (SHAME ON THEM)). If anyone have any ideas on how to procure an Ardbeg Supernova, please do send me a PM | ||
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Icapica
Finland206 Posts
On November 12 2011 21:56 Icapica wrote: Okay, now I think I just have to get that whisky somehow. I've long wanted to try Japanese whiskys and that description sounds delicious. I just wonder how ordering stuff online works with Finnish laws. Another thing I should try soon is some good single malt matured in a sherry cask. Okay, today I bought 12y.o. Hakushu and I'm tasting it right now. Delicious stuff. Thanks. | ||
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iloveav
Poland1478 Posts
Green label is my favorite. | ||
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BigMaiko
Germany28 Posts
![[image loading]](http://chris.dicio.org/screens/joy.jpg) Yo Artrey! Are we soulmates or what? :D Lets drink some whisky sometime! Greets from Colognge! ^^ ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/n4FyP.jpg) <3 <3 <3 | ||
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Bolle
Germany3 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15328 Posts
On December 01 2011 05:34 Sqalevon wrote: Out of those I can recommend Teachers, Jameson and Glenlivet 12. I haven't tried most of them, I'm not a big fan of bourbons. I prefer Glenlivet 12 over Glenfiddich 12 Chivas Regal 12 is also good. This would be my answer as well. Most from your initial list is trash and barely drinkable. Glenlivet, Teachers, Jameson, Chivas, Glenfiddich, Johnny Black, Canadian Club are all good low budget choices. | ||
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Chiquaua
Sweden7 Posts
On November 16 2011 12:22 pwncakery wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2011 09:44 Balgrog wrote: Hey so turning 21 in a week and I love whiskey. I have mainly been sticking to bourbon, but being able to buy my own and browse around, I want to break into scotch. My dad is a whiskey snob and I want to surprise him with some knowledge and a collection. Right now whiskey's I love are Jack Daniel #7, Maker's Mark, Rebel Yell. I have had smokey scotch before and I liked it, but not necessarily my thing (as far as I know). My price range is anywhere up until $120. If you guys could point me to some recommended bottles (that are not super obscure or anything) and maybe some websites for whiskey "newbs" I would appreciate it! This chart might be handy as a starting point if you're looking for a particular style of single malt scotch: ![[image loading]](http://www.malts.com/var/plain_site/storage/images/choosing-whisky/a-world-of-flavour/the-single-malt-whisky-flavour-map/a-guide-to-flavours/125896-16-eng-ROW/A-Guide-to-Flavours.png) edit: as for a site, this http://www.royalmilewhiskies.com/ could be a good one. Allows you to search via a host of characteristics including price, flavour, distillery, age and so on. The nice thing about sites like this (and there are more like it if you want to look them up) is that you can just use them for research, then head to a local store and make a more informed purchase than walking in, reading the back of the bottle & praying. Oh nice im definitely gonna try all thoose up in the smoky area! I don't have any cool whisky collection to brag about but i seem to miss 1 brand after reading this thread : Kilchoman. ![[image loading]](http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3535/img0965vr.jpg) Even if its from a new distillery (founded 2005) it still has the highest quality i have tasted so far, really good whisky far up in the smoky regions of the whisky map. If you like Laphroaig or Ardbeg this one is definitely worth trying out. | ||
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