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HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
November 06 2011 01:20 GMT
#21
Yeah, I read it. I'm just not sympathetic to anyone involved in the industry, or the consumers. At all. People can chalk it up to an uncontrollable fetish all they want. If someone rapes your son or daughter, films or photographs it, distributes it, and just for the sake of argument, you catch someone in posession of it, what are you going to do?
Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
November 06 2011 01:21 GMT
#22
Yeah, that's really excessive.
No relation to Monsieur J.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
November 06 2011 01:21 GMT
#23
He should be sentenced, no doubt. For life? No fucking way.

I think he should mostly be under surveillance for a long time..
Try another route paperboy.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 06 2011 01:22 GMT
#24
On November 06 2011 10:15 madcow305 wrote:
Sex, and sex-based crimes have always received a disproportionate amount of punishment and scorn from society.

I would think it's also makes it harder on victims to cope. People react differently to suffering tragedies but it seems that due to the stigma society attaches to it, it becomes unacceptable for anyone to view it as anything less then the worst thing in the world.
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Mordoc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States162 Posts
November 06 2011 01:23 GMT
#25
Now, I don't condone owning, downloading, or having child-porn, but there isn't anything wrong with having a fetish: i'm sure plenty of you who are interested in things that some people would consider gross (though not as bad as child porn).


Producing child pornography or participating in child molestation is certainly wrong, and I agree any person who comitted those acts should be sentenced to jail for a VERY long time (or executed, even); but simply viewing and owning child porn? It's not that bad, frankly.

Remember that this guy is a first time offender, and it is my belief that is is POSSIBLE that with only 1-5 years, he could come out clean, and never do this again. Of course, if he were found guilty a SECOND time, I could understand 15+ years; but life for simply having child porn on his computer? That's too far, in my opinion.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 01:24:45
November 06 2011 01:23 GMT
#26
If you're going to give life sentences to people looking at the stuff what possible deterant is there to not just go out and abuse a kid themselves? They're hardly going to get a worse sentence (and that's even if you count the death penalty) and even then, if you're getting the same for murder what's to stop them murdering the kids to make sure they don't speak out (edit: ) as it's still the same sentence? This just seems insane as a "start" sentence.
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Josealtron
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States219 Posts
November 06 2011 01:23 GMT
#27
On November 06 2011 10:20 HackBenjamin wrote:
Yeah, I read it. I'm just not sympathetic to anyone involved in the industry, or the consumers. At all. People can chalk it up to an uncontrollable fetish all they want. If someone rapes your son or daughter, films or photographs it, distributes it, and just for the sake of argument, you catch someone in posession of it, what are you going to do?


Lock him up in jail for the rest of their life? lol. Because apparently looking at disgusting images is as bad as killing somebody...

This is ridiculous. The guy claims he didn't even know it was on his computer, which may or may not be true, but even if it isn't, a life sentence for looking at child porn? WTF
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Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
November 06 2011 01:24 GMT
#28
On November 06 2011 10:20 HackBenjamin wrote:
Yeah, I read it. I'm just not sympathetic to anyone involved in the industry, or the consumers. At all. People can chalk it up to an uncontrollable fetish all they want. If someone rapes your son or daughter, films or photographs it, distributes it, and just for the sake of argument, you catch someone in posession of it, what are you going to do?


Clearly the irrational perspective of the victim's family is the one we should be assuming in determining appropriate ways to deal with unacceptable behavior. That seems likely to produce civilized and productive criminal policy.
No relation to Monsieur J.
albis
Profile Joined January 2010
United States652 Posts
November 06 2011 01:26 GMT
#29
On November 06 2011 10:20 HackBenjamin wrote:
Yeah, I read it. I'm just not sympathetic to anyone involved in the industry, or the consumers. At all. People can chalk it up to an uncontrollable fetish all they want. If someone rapes your son or daughter, films or photographs it, distributes it, and just for the sake of argument, you catch someone in posession of it, what are you going to do?


prolly ask where they got it from

or no, just kill the person. your fatherless son will grow up knowing hes dad is the most badass of all the prison inmates.

possession is ALOT different that disruption and production
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USApwn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States81 Posts
November 06 2011 01:26 GMT
#30
Life sentence? He could have done a lot worse shit than that, disgusting as it is - life sentence is a grossly put sentence for an already gross person. Give the guy some time and some rehabilitation, but not something as huge as a life sentence. Come on.
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BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 01:29:13
November 06 2011 01:28 GMT
#31
My question is - how did the authorities know about it? Or what judge gave the search permit to the cops and for what reason. More importantly - does this mean anyone that has a grudge against you only has to download child porn on your computer and tell the authorities about it?

If that is the case, R1CH really can get back at anyone... freaky.
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
November 06 2011 01:28 GMT
#32
+1 for the "yeah he did something wrong but this sentence is far too much" team.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
November 06 2011 01:29 GMT
#33
On November 06 2011 10:14 Jonoman92 wrote:
Um... wtf? There is a kid in my school who killed someone driving drunk, and after 3 years in prison he is back in school and his life relatively uninterrupted. The justice system sucks so bad.

Child porn is wrong, but giving the guy life in prison just sounds absolutely absurd. Reading the article now.


I don't know about this specific case but this kind of scaling for sex crimes is pretty common, at a certain level of offense you're no longer considered able to be rehabilitated so the rationale is that life in prison is the only choice. I guess people think that isn't true for violent crimes, I can't speak for how true any of that is though.
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peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
November 06 2011 01:29 GMT
#34
What? Don't get me wrong child porn is extremely wrong and I don't support it at all, but this guy just has a weird fetish and he is getting more time in jail than that of someone who killed another human being??

I can't see this actually happening. Wow...
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 06 2011 01:29 GMT
#35
On November 06 2011 10:20 HackBenjamin wrote:
Yeah, I read it. I'm just not sympathetic to anyone involved in the industry, or the consumers. At all. People can chalk it up to an uncontrollable fetish all they want. If someone rapes your son or daughter, films or photographs it, distributes it, and just for the sake of argument, you catch someone in posession of it, what are you going to do?
For possessing it? I don't know, spit in his face? Slap him?

What do you expect me to say--that I'd want to kill anyone who buys that picture? I'm not that bloodthirsty.

This guy is a person too, and yes, I can sympathize with him, because everyone has fetishes, though his may be a distasteful one. I agree that possession should be a punishable crime because it indirectly supports the industry, but this guy hasn't actually done anything to a child. You can't even reasonably argue that his actions led to any child's being harmed except in the sense that he was one of millions whose purchases collectively finance the industry. That shouldn't be equated to molestation.

What does giving a guy like this a life sentence do except ruin his life?
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blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
November 06 2011 01:30 GMT
#36
On November 06 2011 10:19 albis wrote:
death for looking at something. land of the free....unless u open your eyes


Yeah, because everyone should be free to sexually exploit children for their enjoyment/pay people for pictures of it? Oh, wait, most major countries have major laws against this.

That said the sentence is stupid and I in no way agree with it.
lizard219
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany22 Posts
November 06 2011 01:30 GMT
#37
this is so ridicolous. I searched the internet to see how this case would be handled by german law and the result is: he would have to pay a fine and the pc would get confiscated...yes thats all...if he had more than 500 pics he would have get 3months - 2 years on parole.

how can the interpretation of law diverge so much?
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 01:30:25
November 06 2011 01:30 GMT
#38
Wow that's really strange, if I were the offender's lawyer I'd check the judge's record on this kind of trial. It sounds like an insanely disproportionate punishment.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
November 06 2011 01:30 GMT
#39
On November 06 2011 10:28 Energizer wrote:
My question is - how did the authorities know about it? Or what judge gave the search permit to the cops and for what reason. More importantly - does this mean anyone that has a grudge against you only has to download child porn on your computer and tell the authorities about it?

If that is the case, R1CH really can get back at anyone... freaky.

Seriously...I mean how easy would it be to frame someone for a crime like this...kind of frightening when you think about it.
Ermac
Profile Joined June 2011
336 Posts
November 06 2011 01:30 GMT
#40
Wtf!? This is ridiculous.
"Blind aggressiveness would destroy the attack itself, not the defense." - Carl von Clausewitz
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