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On November 06 2011 10:42 Olinimm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:32 Tremendous wrote:On November 06 2011 10:16 Prospero wrote:On November 06 2011 10:11 Tremendous wrote:
Execute the bastard! No need to waste a prison cell on scum like that ! Did you read the article? It questions whether or not downloading child pornography merits a similar punishment as first degree murder, and whether judges should sentence according to what they fear (looking at child porn leading to molestation) versus what they actually did (looking at child porn). I'm not sure downloading the stuff warrants execution. I dont see why this guy should get off easier than a murderer for supporting an industry that make a living by sexualy abusing small children. It is by far the most disgusting and perverted thing a person can do if you ask me. I also dont see how the fact that its his first crimminal offence should factor into this. Its more like that its just the first time he got caught. This sentence is obviously a statement and the high sentence is meant to scare the pedos. Like that woman that got fined 1.5 millon for share 100 songs. Anyway, If they are going to lock the guy up until he dies they might aswell put him down right then and there. Whats the point of locking him up just to wait for him to die? You don't see how murdering an innocent person is deserving of a much more severe punishment, than indirectly harming someone through downloading something? It frightens me greatly that apparently this judge has the same mindset.
By downloading this stuff, he is helping to increase the demand. Which means more children are going to be subjected to it. There is a reason why child porn is illegal.
And yes, I do perceive any involvement with child porn to be just as bad as murder. Its just an opinion!
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and if he downloaded it for free? thats still increasing the demand?
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Apparently being a straight up sex offender is less serious than being involved in creepy fetishes.
edit: And of course this is a case from a Sun Belt state
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i hope this is a message to everyone that you just shouldn't look at that shit, and if you feel the urge get some fucken help before you screw up your life.
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I have an uncle in Florida that went to prison for child pornography. The thing about the law is that each picture counts as 1 count and 1 count can get you 1 year. So having 454 pictures can get you 454 years in prison.
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On November 06 2011 10:54 Tremendous wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:42 Olinimm wrote:On November 06 2011 10:32 Tremendous wrote:On November 06 2011 10:16 Prospero wrote:On November 06 2011 10:11 Tremendous wrote:
Execute the bastard! No need to waste a prison cell on scum like that ! Did you read the article? It questions whether or not downloading child pornography merits a similar punishment as first degree murder, and whether judges should sentence according to what they fear (looking at child porn leading to molestation) versus what they actually did (looking at child porn). I'm not sure downloading the stuff warrants execution. I dont see why this guy should get off easier than a murderer for supporting an industry that make a living by sexualy abusing small children. It is by far the most disgusting and perverted thing a person can do if you ask me. I also dont see how the fact that its his first crimminal offence should factor into this. Its more like that its just the first time he got caught. This sentence is obviously a statement and the high sentence is meant to scare the pedos. Like that woman that got fined 1.5 millon for share 100 songs. Anyway, If they are going to lock the guy up until he dies they might aswell put him down right then and there. Whats the point of locking him up just to wait for him to die? You don't see how murdering an innocent person is deserving of a much more severe punishment, than indirectly harming someone through downloading something? It frightens me greatly that apparently this judge has the same mindset. By downloading this stuff, he is helping to increase the demand. Which means more children are going to be subjected to it. There is a reason why child porn is illegal. It's been estimated that secondhand smoke kills about 3,000 people a year. Does that make every smoker a mass murderer?
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Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe...
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On November 06 2011 10:58 AxelTVx wrote:
Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe...
lifetime just means 25years bro not his life lol
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On November 06 2011 10:54 Tremendous wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:42 Olinimm wrote:On November 06 2011 10:32 Tremendous wrote:On November 06 2011 10:16 Prospero wrote:On November 06 2011 10:11 Tremendous wrote:
Execute the bastard! No need to waste a prison cell on scum like that ! Did you read the article? It questions whether or not downloading child pornography merits a similar punishment as first degree murder, and whether judges should sentence according to what they fear (looking at child porn leading to molestation) versus what they actually did (looking at child porn). I'm not sure downloading the stuff warrants execution. I dont see why this guy should get off easier than a murderer for supporting an industry that make a living by sexualy abusing small children. It is by far the most disgusting and perverted thing a person can do if you ask me. I also dont see how the fact that its his first crimminal offence should factor into this. Its more like that its just the first time he got caught. This sentence is obviously a statement and the high sentence is meant to scare the pedos. Like that woman that got fined 1.5 millon for share 100 songs. Anyway, If they are going to lock the guy up until he dies they might aswell put him down right then and there. Whats the point of locking him up just to wait for him to die? You don't see how murdering an innocent person is deserving of a much more severe punishment, than indirectly harming someone through downloading something? It frightens me greatly that apparently this judge has the same mindset. By downloading this stuff, he is helping to increase the demand. Which means more children are going to be subjected to it. There is a reason why child porn is illegal. And yes, I do perceive any involvement with child porn to be just as bad as murder. Its just an opinion!
do you perceive sex with a minor (including children) to be worse than possession of child porn? because the punishment for sex with a minor is less than life in prison. thus, most people's outrage in here.
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On November 06 2011 10:59 Malgrif wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:58 AxelTVx wrote:
Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe... lifetime just means 25years bro not his life lol What are you talking about?
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So if mere possession of child porn warrants such severe punishment as life sentence, it would only be fair if child molestation and production of child porn result in capital punishment, at minimum. Actually, that doesn't sound too bad.
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He hasn't harmed anybody yet he gets no chance to be helped, just gets thrown in jail to die without freedom? This seems ridiculous to me, I don't understand the justice system of many if not most countries.
On November 06 2011 10:59 Malgrif wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:58 AxelTVx wrote:
Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe... lifetime just means 25years bro not his life lol
I'm not 100% about the years which life is in America but the wording of the OP suggests that he will be in jail for the rest of his life, maybe the OP just misunderstands though.
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Did he just have a fucking awful lawyer or something? I mean getting a life sentence for something like this just seems ridiculous.
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Well I have seen this documentary about an Irish Catholic priest that has molest alot of children and he is home free in Ireland. He even admitted it and alot of his handy work has been documented by police and stuff.
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it must be hard to find an attorney to represent you in a case like this lol. i don't think it could've gone any more wrong for this guy.
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I am curiouse if it was real child porn pictures or loli(hentai). I know that loli is considered child porn in sweden and that is bullshit. If it is real child porn pictures... I'm not sure. I mean I agree that it deserves a large punishment, but that is hevier then actually molster a kid is fucked up.
I don't care much for what fetish he have. A lot of people do fantasies about kids, not the youngest <10 maybe but still kids. And yeah I think that is normal. As long as you don't harm anyone I don't see the problem. You could argue that being in possesion of child porn pictures is harmfull or not but I think to some degree it is.
When I first saw the topic I thought "yeah he sure deserved that", because I HATE pedophiles. But since I don't know excatly how bad the pictures were, and the more I think about it the more I agree that the sentence is to severe. A heavier sentence then molstering a kid? really? that's bullshit. A heavier sentence then murder? (even if I honestly think that the punishment for murder are generally to light but whatever). So no lifetime for only having photos and a first time offender is bullshit.
ps: I don't think that the number of photos should heavily effect the punishment. 100 or 1000 doesn't matter.
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The Priest even raped some of the children.
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On November 06 2011 11:01 qrs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:59 Malgrif wrote:On November 06 2011 10:58 AxelTVx wrote:
Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe... lifetime just means 25years bro not his life lol What are you talking about?
I don't know the exact ins and outs, but a "lifetime" sentence in Canada usually ends up being like 20-25 yrs. Maybe he thought it applied to the States too? In any event, this guy should go to jail, but not for longer than rapists.
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On November 06 2011 11:06 JackDragon wrote:
I am curiouse if it was real child porn pictures or loli(hentai). I know that loli is considered child porn in sweden and that is bullshit. If it is real child porn pictures... I'm not sure. I mean I agree that it deserves a large punishment, but that is hevier then actually molster a kid is fucked up.
I don't care much for what fetish he have. A lot of people do fantasies about kids, not the youngest <10 maybe but still kids. And yeah I think that is normal. As long as you don't harm anyone I don't see the problem. You could argue that being in possesion of child porn pictures is harmfull or not but I think to some degree it is.
When I first saw the topic I thought "yeah he sure deserved that", because I HATE pedophiles. But since I don't know excatly how bad the pictures were, and the more I think about it the more I agree that the sentence is to severe. A heavier sentence then molstering a kid? really? that's bullshit. A heavier sentence then murder? (even if I honestly think that the punishment for murder are generally to light but whatever). So no lifetime for only having photos and a first time offender is bullshit.
ps: I don't think that the number of photos should heavily effect the punishment. 100 or 1000 doesn't matter.
http://ccsoblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/update-man-charged-with-500-counts-of.html
this source has some more informations:
"Some of the videos and pictures showed boys ages 6 to 12 engaged in sexual activity with adults and each other, according to arrest reports. "
"Through the investigation, detectives tracked child pornography files that were shared over the Internet to the Internet Protocol, or IP, address, on Guevara Vilca’s computer."
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On November 06 2011 10:59 Malgrif wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:58 AxelTVx wrote:
Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe... lifetime just means 25years bro not his life lol
No, lifetime can literally mean lifetime. 25 years is not the same thing as a life sentence. That's why you hear people get sentenced 25 year to life.
This is kinda ridiculous. A harsh sentence is necessary imo cause child porn is just fucking sick. But life sentence for just possession is kinda disproportionate.
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