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Zirith
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada403 Posts
November 06 2011 02:09 GMT
#101
I would rather get this guy some help, if he didnt actually hurt anyone then there is always a chance for rehab, but this guy seems to have just got into some bad stuff and has literally lost the rest of his life.
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KryptoStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
England377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 02:13:22
November 06 2011 02:10 GMT
#102
The fact that in England you get 5-10 years for murdering someone, you END someones life and get 5 years, yet for downloading some pictures you get life? Obviously I don't even need to say that I detest this act considering he didn't actually directly harm anyone and he got life...wow...

Edit: So what happens in florida if you actually molest a child, or distribute this kind of thing?....since there are no harsher circumstances? Pretty baffling to me.
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hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
November 06 2011 02:10 GMT
#103
This is what appellate court is for.
He won't actually have to serve a life sentence.
TheBomb
Profile Joined October 2011
237 Posts
November 06 2011 02:10 GMT
#104
Oh and I've just read that Halliburton run child kidnapping rings and there were congressional hearings about this and no one got in trouble and of course the famed UN and NATO missions with DynCorp for example caught red handed running a lot of them and no one gets in trouble.

But if someone looks at it, its life in prison.
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gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
November 06 2011 02:11 GMT
#105
It this kind of thread that shows the weakness of the "forum" as a place to share opinions: one idiot make a stupid post > his statement is quoted twenty times and all the elaborate posts are almost never relayed.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
November 06 2011 02:12 GMT
#106
On November 06 2011 11:08 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 10:59 Malgrif wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:58 AxelTVx wrote:
Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe...

lifetime just means 25years bro not his life lol

No, lifetime can literally mean lifetime. 25 years is not the same thing as a life sentence. That's why you hear people get sentenced 25 year to life.

This is kinda ridiculous. A harsh sentence is necessary imo cause child porn is just fucking sick. But life sentence for just possession is kinda disproportionate.


Yes, but interesting that the sentence is more than most actual child molesters get. I really think therapy would be a better solution to those non-violent offenders, while life should be saved for those who actually produce/participate in child pornography.
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
November 06 2011 02:12 GMT
#107
If you're 26 you should know what's right and wrong, he had it coming.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 06 2011 02:13 GMT
#108
On November 06 2011 11:06 Wafflelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 11:01 qrs wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:59 Malgrif wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:58 AxelTVx wrote:
Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe...

lifetime just means 25years bro not his life lol
What are you talking about?


I don't know the exact ins and outs, but a "lifetime" sentence in Canada usually ends up being like 20-25 yrs. Maybe he thought it applied to the States too? In any event, this guy should go to jail, but not for longer than rapists.

lifetime is lifetime, but usually there is a possibility of parole after a certain amount of time (10-25 years in this case, maybe less). only when you get life without parole is it actually a lifetime. given the overcrowding in america and the non-violent nature of child porn possession (and complete bullshit of a life sentence), i doubt this guy will serve more than a decade (if his lawyers completely fubar his appeal that is).
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 06 2011 02:13 GMT
#109
On November 06 2011 11:06 Wafflelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 11:01 qrs wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:59 Malgrif wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:58 AxelTVx wrote:
Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe...

lifetime just means 25years bro not his life lol
What are you talking about?


I don't know the exact ins and outs, but a "lifetime" sentence in Canada usually ends up being like 20-25 yrs.
"Lifetime" means lifetime, everywhere. A sentence of 25 years is known as "a sentence of 25 years".

You're probably thinking of life with parole, but this sentence was of life without parole.
On November 06 2011 11:08 lizard219 wrote:
http://ccsoblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/update-man-charged-with-500-counts-of.html

this source has some more informations:

"Some of the videos and pictures showed boys ages 6 to 12 engaged in sexual activity with adults and each other, according to arrest reports. "

"Through the investigation, detectives tracked child pornography files that were shared over the Internet to the Internet Protocol, or IP, address, on Guevara Vilca’s computer."
Thanks! I'll update the OP with your link.
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Tremendous
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark155 Posts
November 06 2011 02:14 GMT
#110
On November 06 2011 11:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
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On November 06 2011 10:54 Tremendous wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:42 Olinimm wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:32 Tremendous wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:16 Prospero wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:11 Tremendous wrote:
Execute the bastard! No need to waste a prison cell on scum like that !


Did you read the article? It questions whether or not downloading child pornography merits a similar punishment as first degree murder, and whether judges should sentence according to what they fear (looking at child porn leading to molestation) versus what they actually did (looking at child porn). I'm not sure downloading the stuff warrants execution.


I dont see why this guy should get off easier than a murderer for supporting an industry that make a living by sexualy abusing small children. It is by far the most disgusting and perverted thing a person can do if you ask me. I also dont see how the fact that its his first crimminal offence should factor into this. Its more like that its just the first time he got caught.
This sentence is obviously a statement and the high sentence is meant to scare the pedos. Like that woman that got fined 1.5 millon for share 100 songs.
Anyway, If they are going to lock the guy up until he dies they might aswell put him down right then and there. Whats the point of locking him up just to wait for him to die?

You don't see how murdering an innocent person is deserving of a much more severe punishment, than indirectly harming someone through downloading something? It frightens me greatly that apparently this judge has the same mindset.


By downloading this stuff, he is helping to increase the demand. Which means more children are going to be subjected to it. There is a reason why child porn is illegal.

And yes, I do perceive any involvement with child porn to be just as bad as murder. Its just an opinion!



do you perceive sex with a minor (including children) to be worse than possession of child porn? because the punishment for sex with a minor is less than life in prison. thus, most people's outrage in here.


Yay sex with a minor is worse then possesion and the fact that the sentence for sex with a minor is lower than what this guy got is fucked up!
But i still think the sentence is appropriate. Why they seems to think raping a child deservers less jail time is just... stupid...
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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
November 06 2011 02:14 GMT
#111
I wonder what rehab for pedophiles would even look like. Has anyone even tried to establish something like this? Is it possible?

What an unfortunate fetish for someone to develop/be born with.
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Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
November 06 2011 02:14 GMT
#112
They should get the ones who produce these things instead.
The government is just trying to sent out a message that they are serious about this.
The guy is just unlucky to a scrape goat.
Romulox
Profile Joined October 2011
United States125 Posts
November 06 2011 02:15 GMT
#113
Florida, always setting the curve for rest of the world.
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 02:20:44
November 06 2011 02:15 GMT
#114
On November 06 2011 11:08 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 10:59 Malgrif wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:58 AxelTVx wrote:
Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe...

lifetime just means 25years bro not his life lol

No, lifetime can literally mean lifetime. 25 years is not the same thing as a life sentence. That's why you hear people get sentenced 25 year to life.

This is kinda ridiculous. A harsh sentence is necessary imo cause child porn is just fucking sick. But life sentence for just possession is kinda disproportionate.

True that life time can be for life. but normaly it is around 25 year. but I'm not sure if that is the case since it is without the possibility of parole. So yeah it could be literally for life


On November 06 2011 11:13 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 11:06 Wafflelisk wrote:
On November 06 2011 11:01 qrs wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:59 Malgrif wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:58 AxelTVx wrote:
Wtf... A life sentence for child pornography? This is completely unjustified.... A long sentence I understand, but lifetime is just too severe...

lifetime just means 25years bro not his life lol
What are you talking about?

I don't know the exact ins and outs, but a "lifetime" sentence in Canada usually ends up being like 20-25 yrs.
"Lifetime" means lifetime, everywhere. A sentence of 25 years is known as "a sentence of 25 years".

You're probably thinking of life with parole, but this sentence was of life without parole.
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 11:08 lizard219 wrote:
http://ccsoblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/update-man-charged-with-500-counts-of.html

this source has some more informations:

"Some of the videos and pictures showed boys ages 6 to 12 engaged in sexual activity with adults and each other, according to arrest reports. "

"Through the investigation, detectives tracked child pornography files that were shared over the Internet to the Internet Protocol, or IP, address, on Guevara Vilca’s computer."
Thanks! I'll update the OP with your link.


Wikipedia disagrees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 06 2011 02:16 GMT
#115
On November 06 2011 11:11 gds wrote:
It this kind of thread that shows the weakness of the "forum" as a place to share opinions: one idiot make a stupid post > his statement is quoted twenty times and all the elaborate posts are almost never relayed.
That is a good point; separate discussion, but hm... Maybe if I see some particularly thoughtful posts here, I'll highlight them in the OP.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 06 2011 02:16 GMT
#116
On November 06 2011 11:14 Newbistic wrote:
I wonder what rehab for pedophiles would even look like. Has anyone even tried to establish something like this? Is it possible?

What an unfortunate fetish for someone to develop/be born with.

they have rehab programs, including chemical castration (ouch!). like a lot of fetishes/desires, its extremely hard to control, but possible.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1993 Posts
November 06 2011 02:17 GMT
#117
That is one fucked up legal system, how can they justify that?
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Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
November 06 2011 02:17 GMT
#118
so he likes child porn. others like fat chick, buff chicks. its wrong to look at but he didnt do anything to harm a child. life in prison is just ridiculous.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 02:23:25
November 06 2011 02:19 GMT
#119
On November 06 2011 10:34 ElusoryX wrote:
too harsh of a sentence? if he's 40+ then a life sentence would appropriate..


that logic is so ridiculous :D How is it appropriate to lock someone away for his entire life because he maybe right clicked "saved picture as" on a sick picture on 4chan \b\

Of couse it's morally wrong and the guy will probably suffer from the social stigma he will receive until the day he dies. Why is there a need to lock him away eventhough he didn't harm anyone? His "punishment" (besides his already mentioned ruined life) should be a psychiatric treatment (of course he has to pay for it).
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 02:23:47
November 06 2011 02:22 GMT
#120
Giving someone life for possession of child porn is fucking ridiculous. It's not the same as murdering someone. As long as he didn't personally get the children to do the porn, then I don't think he needs to go into a straight up jail. Why not put him in a loony house and have counseling for the rest of his life?

Meaning he lives in the loony house and can't leave.
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