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On November 06 2011 10:15 madcow305 wrote:
Sex, and sex-based crimes have always received a disproportionate amount of punishment and scorn from society.
In Denmark is the other way around... Fraud will give up to 6years in jail... Rape can give as little as 3months... People are often complaining about the danish legal system - But THIS is not in anyway better. But it's hard for me with no legal education to actually call what would be the ideal judgement (well, appart from therapy with a psychiatrist or something like that)
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On November 06 2011 10:16 Prospero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:11 Tremendous wrote:
Execute the bastard! No need to waste a prison cell on scum like that ! Did you read the article? It questions whether or not downloading child pornography merits a similar punishment as first degree murder, and whether judges should sentence according to what they fear (looking at child porn leading to molestation) versus what they actually did (looking at child porn). I'm not sure downloading the stuff warrants execution.
I dont see why this guy should get off easier than a murderer for supporting an industry that make a living by sexualy abusing small children. It is by far the most disgusting and perverted thing a person can do if you ask me. I also dont see how the fact that its his first crimminal offence should factor into this. Its more like that its just the first time he got caught.
This sentence is obviously a statement and the high sentence is meant to scare the pedos. Like that woman that got fined 1.5 millon for share 100 songs.
Anyway, If they are going to lock the guy up until he dies they might aswell put him down right then and there. Whats the point of locking him up just to wait for him to die?
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On November 06 2011 10:23 Mordoc wrote:
Now, I don't condone owning, downloading, or having child-porn, but there isn't anything wrong with having a fetish: i'm sure plenty of you who are interested in things that some people would consider gross (though not as bad as child porn).
Really? You realize that a fetish is something that you have an excessive or irrational commitment to, right? It's not just a hobby. Some individuals might not share your particular hobbies, but fetishes are looked down upon by society as a whole.
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On November 06 2011 10:19 albis wrote:
death for looking at something. land of the free....unless u open your eyes
I wonder if you meant this quote to be as far reaching as it comes across to me.
As for the punishment, I mean...we are in an age in the U.S. where "Loli" or 'depictions' of children in sensual acts/poses is now classified as child pornography. I believe most of that is the terminology used that banned artists 'questionably young' anime stuff. Would some nerd be put away for life because his anime girls were flat chested and looked young?
This is not sympathetic to the crime, but the severity of punishment.
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Jesus Christ guys,
I know, and we all know that child pornography is messed up (we get it). But does someone deserve a LIFE SENTENCE for possession of child pornography downloaded off of the internet?
Many murderers and other felons don't receive a life sentence (even if found guilty), but this guy straight up gets life for this? This is BS, like no joke. Messed up verdict, IMHO.
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too harsh of a sentence? if he's 40+ then a life sentence would appropriate..
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Yeah, definitely think that the sentencing was too harsh. Child pornographers or whatever should be punished for sure, but to be basically treated the same (or worse) as a murderer? Going overboard for sure.
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I think the people actually abusing the children deserve life in jail, but I don't think the sick fucks who watch it should get that heavy of a punishment
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Life? i think thats a bit rough. Maybe like 25 years
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On November 06 2011 10:32 Tremendous wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:16 Prospero wrote:On November 06 2011 10:11 Tremendous wrote:
Execute the bastard! No need to waste a prison cell on scum like that ! Did you read the article? It questions whether or not downloading child pornography merits a similar punishment as first degree murder, and whether judges should sentence according to what they fear (looking at child porn leading to molestation) versus what they actually did (looking at child porn). I'm not sure downloading the stuff warrants execution. I dont see why this guy should get off easier than a murderer for supporting an industry that make a living by sexualy abusing small children. It is by far the most disgusting and perverted thing a person can do if you ask me. I also dont see how the fact that its his first crimminal offence should factor into this. Its more like that its just the first time he got caught. This sentence is obviously a statement and the high sentence is meant to scare the pedos. Like that woman that got fined 1.5 millon for share 100 songs. Anyway, If they are going to lock the guy up until he dies they might aswell put him down right then and there. Whats the point of locking him up just to wait for him to die?
I'm glad you're not judge. That is no way to address this kind of case, sentencing him for crimes he might or might not have done. Geez are you serious about that ?
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I don't think anyone is saying he should just have the charges dropped against him, there should still be some punishment but life in prison? Possession of child porn is one thing, actually sexually molesting a child is completely another. It's some bullshit kneejerk reaction because society looks down so heavily upon it.
He should have just killed someone. Hell, some people have gotten off with just probation for killing the passenger in their car while driving drunk. Calling it a system of justice is a joke.
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This is grossly disproportionate. Of course looking at and supporting that industry is disgusting but this punishment is still not justified.
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Child porn is fucking sick.
But this guy doesn't deserve a life sentence. He should be punished, none of this "it's just a fetish leave him alone!" bullshit, but no way should he get life. That's ridiculous.
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Was he spreading it? How bad was the content?
How much truth could there be to his claim that he didn't even know it was on his computer? I doubt it was truly a set up but I imagine proving his innocence in the event that it was would be quite difficult. Although I imagine if police searches your place they have been monitoring you for a while.
How did he acquire the content? Did he look at some pictures from the spammers on 4chan or did he actively search for it?
There's a lot of information we don't know. Either way, the punishment seems extreme if it was only possession in any case. I mean, maybe he was actively spreading it or bragging about it. Maybe that could explain a harsher sentence.
But it still doesn't justify life without parole IMO. He should get a certain number of years, yes, but the article even says he could've gotten a lighter sentence if he had actually molested a child... wow. I'm speechless at that.
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"it's not hurting anyone"
Yes, him watching it and creating a demand for it hurts the children who where originally raped or w/e in these videos. Everyone caught with child porn, or raping children or anyone, or distributing things like that deserve life in prison, they cause people endless amount of pain and suffering.
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On November 06 2011 10:33 Sassymcgee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:19 albis wrote:
death for looking at something. land of the free....unless u open your eyes I wonder if you meant this quote to be as far reaching as it comes across to me.
he get his life taken away from him because he looked at pictures, we as a society say is inappropriate.
its just a little extreme for me. possession is not production/distribution
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On November 06 2011 10:32 Tremendous wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 10:16 Prospero wrote:On November 06 2011 10:11 Tremendous wrote:
Execute the bastard! No need to waste a prison cell on scum like that ! Did you read the article? It questions whether or not downloading child pornography merits a similar punishment as first degree murder, and whether judges should sentence according to what they fear (looking at child porn leading to molestation) versus what they actually did (looking at child porn). I'm not sure downloading the stuff warrants execution. I dont see why this guy should get off easier than a murderer for supporting an industry that make a living by sexualy abusing small children. It is by far the most disgusting and perverted thing a person can do if you ask me. I also dont see how the fact that its his first crimminal offence should factor into this. Its more like that its just the first time he got caught. This sentence is obviously a statement and the high sentence is meant to scare the pedos. Like that woman that got fined 1.5 millon for share 100 songs. Anyway, If they are going to lock the guy up until he dies they might aswell put him down right then and there. Whats the point of locking him up just to wait for him to die?
You don't see how murdering an innocent person is deserving of a much more severe punishment, than indirectly harming someone through downloading something? It frightens me greatly that apparently this judge has the same mindset.
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Well, justice is really applied strangely, imo
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Well there are war criminals living care free lives, corrupt politicians that they've enriched themselves by millions on the labor and sacrifice of others and rapist and killers getting 20 years with parole, so I find this judgment a "bit" over the top.
But this is going into a whole new territory and that is thought crime. I see it more and more in Australia, Britain, USA, Canada more and more where you are put in prison for even thinking about something.
Or you have undercover operatives infiltrating grandpa centers and arrest them for their anti government talks, people in the 70's and 80's and this I've read just about a week ago.
Or how in Australia you can be put in prison for having plastic material in the glass designated trash, or how in Britain you can go to prison just by loaning a public book from a public library, o yeah, etc...
I see it as a means to clamp down on the public and create this false reality where you are accustomed to bizarre arrests and judgments.
And what happens if I still keep pics of my 15yo gf naked at the time and this was like 5 years ago and even then i was 2 years older?
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