EPTGay student gets beaten up in classroom - Page 16
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Pablols
Chile517 Posts
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EienShinwa
United States655 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:21 Chewbacca. wrote: I'm perfectly fine with him spending time in juvie, but then every kid who does something like this to anyone should spend time in juvie. Lets also note that the guy I quoted say prison which is quite a bit different than juvie. Absolutely. If you go out of your way to start a fight with someone, and then proceed to beat the crap out of them as in the video, you should be sent to juvie. It's incredibly sad that incidents like this are seen as just another school fight when it seems pretty clear to me that it's premeditated assault, not two kids meeting behind the bleachers, so to say. | ||
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Alay
United States660 Posts
Police should be involved. Assault is assault is assault. | ||
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R4TM
Brazil140 Posts
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:11 IMSmooth wrote: Why should one crime be more important than another? What happens to the straight kid who gets beaten up in class? Both are equally terrible and IMHO the designation of a "hate crime" is complete bullshit because both involve hate and are equally as bad. "Hate Crime" is perhaps not the best term to use, but this kind of crime should be treated differently. The reason being that a "Hate Crime" usually implies that the reason why the victim was assaulted is due to something that is not in his control (in this case his sexuality). Its sort of a murky topic, and I'm having trouble finding the exact words to describe it. But basically, if I were to compare it to something, it is similar to not hiring someone because they are black as opposed to not hiring them because they were previously a drug user. Both qualities of said person do not have to necessarily reflect on his/her character, but society frowns on forming an opinion on someone based on a quality they have no control over. So while it is fine to not hire someone because they used to use drugs, it is not okay to not hire someone because of their skin colour. IMO, the punishment shouldn't necessarily be harsher (well it should in this case, but not harsher because its a hate crime), but the kid should have to see a therapist so that he can lose his prejudice against homosexuals. | ||
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Kojak21
Canada1104 Posts
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
Schools don't have the authority to deal with legal issues and hence if a student breaks the law they should direct it to law enforcement. There is no justification whatsoever that the school should have dealt with this instead of the police. Breaking the law is breaking the law. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:11 IMSmooth wrote: Why should one crime be more important than another? What happens to the straight kid who gets beaten up in class? Both are equally terrible and IMHO the designation of a "hate crime" is complete bullshit because both involve hate and are equally as bad. The first question is good, but I should point out that hate crimes are far from the only example of the same crime being punishable for different length sentences because of the motivation or the victim's identity. I don't see "hate" as a less valid thing to consider during sentencing than mental illness, official victims, extenuating circumstances, etc. So the question (imo) is - should sentencing be the same for everyone convicted of the same offense, or should juries take things like motivation into account? As for the second question - if a straight kid is beaten up for being straight, it is also a hate crime. You don't have to be a minority to be a victim of a hate crime. | ||
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MetalMarine
United States1559 Posts
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Lumin
United States217 Posts
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asdlkj
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
Edit: above me, what the fuck is wrong with you. | ||
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thatonekid.907
United States13 Posts
Edit: Also, video said he tried to defend himself. I'd suspend the kid who lost the fight as well as the kid who won. | ||
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:53 thatonekid.907 wrote: It's a school fight. A three day suspension seems about right for a school fight. Why would the police get involved in a small high-school scuffle, there's a reason that there is a justice system in the school. I think the punishment was appropriate and hope that's how my high school would respond to the situation. You're either trolling or didn't watch the video. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:53 thatonekid.907 wrote: It's a school fight. A three day suspension seems about right for a school fight. Why would the police get involved in a small high-school scuffle, there's a reason that there is a justice system in the school. I think the punishment was appropriate and hope that's how my high school would respond to the situation. "Fight" implies mutual fighting. The kid was jumped and beaten on by a bigger kid with no provocation and very little resistance, and beaten mercilessly. | ||
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:53 thatonekid.907 wrote: It's a school fight. A three day suspension seems about right for a school fight. Why would the police get involved in a small high-school scuffle, there's a reason that there is a justice system in the school. I think the punishment was appropriate and hope that's how my high school would respond to the situation. Hate crimes should not be tolerated. Ever. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:49 asdlkj wrote: To me the kid seems to be gay because he craves attention. Just listening to his fake gay accent makes me lol. I think the kids that hit him obviously deserve a 3 day suspension for actually hitting him. They should have stuck to just making fun of him imo. Being gay isn't a choice. If he craves attention or not that is completely irrelevant, that isn't the reason he is gay. | ||
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Bourne
United Kingdom152 Posts
Just wondering, why do gay people speak like that ? is that just a vocal calling to let people knoe they are gay ? | ||
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shadymmj
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