EPTTo comment on this situation, I think it's a cowardly thing to do and the person who committed the act is a homophobe
Gay student gets beaten up in classroom - Page 15
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m1rk3
Canada412 Posts
To comment on this situation, I think it's a cowardly thing to do and the person who committed the act is a homophobe | ||
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dahornnn
United Kingdom395 Posts
On October 28 2011 07:42 trainRiderJ wrote: I hate to break it to you but the police force doesn't have the manpower to be involved in every school fight... thats not a fight thats a beatdown ^_^ | ||
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PureMetal
United States83 Posts
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Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
And to those who say that the police can't handle every fight in school, that was no goddamn fight watch the video, the gay guy had no chance and no way to prepare for that. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Magic_Mike
United States542 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:05 Zealotdriver wrote: Serve him a sentence. Lifetime of hard labor or death would be appropriate for this little monster. Or he could get manhandled and punched a few times by someone bigger and stronger than him. Would be perfect if it was a gay man. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:00 Chewbacca. wrote: Hate crime is such a stupid term. A crime is a crime, it shouldn't make a difference if it's because he hates gay people/a certain race. The student shouldn't be punished any more than if he attacked a straight student. What really bothers me about the term hate crime is that it is used basically every time a crime is committed by against a gay person or a person of another race even if you have no idea if that was a motivational factor in the crime. Kids get into fights/beat up other kids quite often, and none of them are ever thrown in prison. It is an absolutely crazy idea that this kid deserves to be thrown in prison just because it was a gay kid he attacked. If you are going to throw this kid in prison then you should be throwing every kid you beats up another kid in prison. Note that I am in no way defending the actions of the student and I have no problem with gay people. Hate crimes create a fear among many people instead of isolated incidents. People targeting others based on differences should ad hear to different punishments. You bring up a good point of proving the "hate" in hate crimes but in this case he called the kid out on facebook for nothing more than being gay. He is clearly targeting the kid because he's gay making this a cut and dry hate crime. If there was other circumstances that made the kid attack him then maybe its worth looking into whether or not its a hate crime. There are a ton of black, Latino, Asian and white kids that get in fights but aren't ruled as hate crimes because there is personal not social differences | ||
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IMSmooth
United States679 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:06 Sufficiency wrote: Hate crime. Offenders need to be formally charged. Why should one crime be more important than another? What happens to the straight kid who gets beaten up in class? Both are equally terrible and IMHO the designation of a "hate crime" is complete bullshit because both involve hate and are equally as bad. | ||
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
The problem here is that someone is allowed to commit violent crime in front of dozens of people and not be held accountable in any way just because of his age. It's a huge problem with school in general. The fact that the kid was gay is kind of irrelevant. In my opinion any kid that beats up another kid unprovoked like that should be sent off to a special school with extra security measures put in place to protect students. | ||
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smokeyhoodoo
United States1021 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:00 Chewbacca. wrote: Hate crime is such a stupid term. A crime is a crime, it shouldn't make a difference if it's because he hates gay people/a certain race. The student shouldn't be punished any more than if he attacked a straight student. What really bothers me about the term hate crime is that it is used basically every time a crime is committed by against a gay person or a person of another race even if you have no idea if that was a motivational factor in the crime. Kids get into fights/beat up other kids quite often, and none of them are ever thrown in prison. It is an absolutely crazy idea that this kid deserves to be thrown in prison just because it was a gay kid he attacked. If you are going to throw this kid in prison then you should be throwing every kid you beats up another kid in prison. Note that I am in no way defending the actions of the student and I have no problem with gay people. This isn't a standard school fight, he had him pinned to the ground and was punching him in the face repeatedly. This could have been murder. Anyone who does this, regardless of motivation, should spend time in juvie. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
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nerak
Brazil256 Posts
So if a psycho who beats gays deserves to be expelled, suspended, beat up, or killed, the same should go for a retard gentleman that beats nerds. Seriously, I wish I could beat those hate criminals myself sometimes. But why isnt bullying nerds a hate crime? | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
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Rogerabbit_gosu
United Kingdom27 Posts
Millitron, most crimes are in no way hate crimes  , hell possession of drugs is a crime in most countries, if I buy some weed im not doing it to express my hatred towards society. Alot of crimes are due to money or desperation, not hate. For a true hate crime, someone needs to be aware of the issue, feel strongly against it and commit a violent crime due to that opinion, otherwise as I said, it is caused by ignorance. Also justice is blind? Never actually heard of that expression but I imagine it means unbiased, how can a system based on a jury made up of members of the public be completely unbiased? These aren't professionals, hell you get some of those people that dont understand the difference between, has taken cocaine and has committed a violent crime. There is no way that people can be unbiased with their opinions esp in a case like this, some people might be homophobic themselves, some may be very liberal and display prejudice against that redneck kid. Wow that one really went on, peace  | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:53 Jonoman92 wrote: How can you say such nonsense. Whether or not it was really a hate crime or not no one on TL knows for sure. Though there seems to be some evidence that there was. If he was beat up solely because he is gay, then it would make it the definition of a hate crime. i guess my example was a case of hate crime against non smokers! I'm saying the bully is very unlikely to have a properly formed opinion about gay people. And either way as many people already pointed out the whole idea of hate crime is stupid. That is no way to rehabilitate a person - to tell him he is sent to jail "because of a gay person." I think that will have to opposite of the desired effect of force feeding him tolerance. What should be taught is that beating up anyone is quiet wrong. | ||
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RQShatter
United States459 Posts
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:12 smokeyhoodoo wrote: This isn't a standard school fight, he had him pinned to the ground and was punching him in the face repeatedly. This could have been murder. Anyone who does this, regardless of motivation, should spend time in juvie. I'm perfectly fine with him spending time in juvie, but then every kid who does something like this to anyone should spend time in juvie. Lets also note that the guy I quoted say prison which is quite a bit different than juvie. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:12 smokeyhoodoo wrote: This isn't a standard school fight, he had him pinned to the ground and was punching him in the face repeatedly. This could have been murder. Anyone who does this, regardless of motivation, should spend time in juvie. The reason this isnt a standard school fight is because bystanders not only avoid interfering but encourage the bully by at least filming it. A lot of school fights would end up like that if indifference is viewed as tolerable. | ||
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chaopow
United States556 Posts
A 3 day suspension is just ridiculous. With the thing that he did, the smallest punishment he should get should be expelled from the school, and he really probably should get sent to a detention school or jail if he is old enough. A 3 day suspension would be reasonable if it was a fight, where both sides threw punches. But he just beat the shit out of a defenseless kid...... | ||
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