EPTId also like to add that its idiotic how some people treat pot smokers like lepers but welcome alcoholics into their family.
Prejudice Against Drug Use? - Page 38
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
Id also like to add that its idiotic how some people treat pot smokers like lepers but welcome alcoholics into their family. | ||
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KickerPics
United States8 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
Although when we learned about the nervous system in school we learned about how the much harder drugs take hits on people's capabilities to produce Dopamine. With that, I do feel sad for other people addicted to drugs because even if they try to stop, they'll be returning to the miserable lives that they were initially running away from in addition to suffering withdrawals. I suppose I'm sympathetic about an individual's case, but I do think it is a prejudice that I carry around because for the most part I think people are capable of fixing their problems. | ||
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MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On October 19 2011 08:49 KickerPics wrote: Illegal drug use is far from a victimless crime. Just look at what's happening in Mexico (and many other countries) right now. It would be fair to say that by helping the biz, you're directly contributing to the deaths of innocents. I would say fucked up laws is directly contributing to the deaths of innocents. Let's cut to the chase here and get to the cause of the problem. | ||
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TechnoSchaman
United States156 Posts
On October 19 2011 08:49 KickerPics wrote: Illegal drug use is far from a victimless crime. Just look at what's happening in Mexico (and many other countries) right now. It would be fair to say that by helping the biz, you're directly contributing to the deaths of innocents. you realize that during alcohol prohibition the same thing happened.... its not the substance its the laws surrounding them. The only reason innoncents are dying is because criminals control the supply and distribution of drugs. Legal drugs are regulated by the government, laws enforced by POLICE, instead of criminals, and potency regulated by FDA rather than (again) criminals. Its common sense really | ||
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La1
United Kingdom659 Posts
everybody is so close-minded  if you knew what half these drugs actually did (not the shit they are mixed with) you would really struggle to find a point why they are illeagle compared to some of the legal stuff out there now.. the whole system is flawed and no goverment has the balls to look into it a few years ago a top drug expert in the UK got sacked because he said some drugs where less dangerous than alchol http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/30/drugs-adviser-david-nutt-sacked http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8334774.stm ^^ - This has a clip with him from the bbc talking about the subject sad really.. the people in power dont have a clue. edit: before somebody asks i do not smoke or do any form of drug now apart from alchol / caffine  | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On October 19 2011 06:59 Derez wrote: Not really. The fact that someone likes to smoke a little on a friday night while watching a movie means nothing for your relationship with him/her, until you get to a very intimate point. Half the world is running around on anti-depressants, another part is just plain unhappy, more drink, others turn to a strong believe in a god. What matters is the way they behave towards you, nothing else really. Unless you're at a point in a relationship where you need to be relied upon during certain hours (professional, personal, whatever) you don't get to make that judgement upfront. Two things about the bolded points. First, how someone behaves towards you is NOT the only thing that matters. I refuse to be friends with someone who is nice to me but is a jackass to my friends and/or family. I dont care if someone seems like a fun person if he/she is a complete tool to others. Theres a lot of opportunistic ass-kissers who will act nice to anyone they think they can get them something, but who will turn their backs on people who they think are below them. What matters is how the person is as a whole. Judging someone based solely on how they act towards you is an incredibly shallow and selfish way to look at people. Second, I can make any judgment I want. Personally, I dont choose to judge people harshly based on whether they use drugs or not. However, if it is someones belief that people who feel a need to spend loads of money on drugs just to feel good arent worthwhile people to get to know, that is completely that guys right to do so. If a professional feels that a person who deliberately goes against the law to use drugs because he or she feels that it should be ok cannot be relied upon in a professional setting to comply with company policies, that is a completely logical judgment (even if the guy only uses drugs in his free time). Anyone can make whatever judgements they want. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
But if you choose to spend your weekends getting drunk and getting high, yes that diminishes you in my eyes. That's ok. I don't think that's prejudice. Hell, sometimes I'm actually impressed that people can be so competent at what they do the next day after a night of binge-drinking. Can't I say "recreational drugs are bad" without being a close-minded asshole? Can't we agree to disagree? | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
I suggest everyone that comes here to watch this whole video. There is some serious stuff that a lot of people really need to hear in it. Its a podcast lead by Joe Rogan with special guest graham hancock. They talk about history, our perception of things in the academic world, drugs, the human race and ancient things. It's simply an amazing experience. | ||
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Magic_Mike
United States542 Posts
On October 19 2011 09:21 DoubleReed wrote: I know plenty of people who smoke weed but who are extremely adept at what they do and in fact are probably even role models to their peers. I don't think weed and getting drunk makes you a worse person and I certainly think you have a right to do them without interfering with others. But if you choose to spend your weekends getting drunk and getting high, yes that diminishes you in my eyes. That's ok. I don't think that's prejudice. Hell, sometimes I'm actually impressed that people can be so competent at what they do the next day after a night of binge-drinking. Can't I say "recreational drugs are bad" without being a close-minded asshole? Can't we agree to disagree? My thoughts exactly | ||
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UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
I wonder if the two of you in this quote tree would trust someone very close to you with someone who drinks or gets high often? | ||
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
On October 19 2011 10:04 UmiNotsuki wrote: I wonder if the two of you in this quote tree would trust someone very close to you with someone who drinks or gets high often? I would trust them if they smoked pot habitually...numerous times daily even. But any sort of habitual drinking loses my trust immediately. Alcoholism has no place in my life. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
On October 19 2011 10:04 UmiNotsuki wrote: I wonder if the two of you in this quote tree would trust someone very close to you with someone who drinks or gets high often? Trust in what way? That's not exactly a binary question. You mean like babysitting? And as long as he isn't high or drunk at that point in time, why wouldn't I trust them? I just said that they were adept at what they do. Role models even. They do have a sense of responsibility. I mean come on, I wouldn't trust anyone like that unless I knew them well enough, regardless of whether they do drugs or alcohol. It's not like "No drugs or alcohol? Here look after my son." | ||
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John Madden
American Samoa894 Posts
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UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
On October 19 2011 10:27 John Madden wrote: I believe peoples life choices are fine as long as they don't affectme. What about when they do? On October 19 2011 10:18 DoubleReed wrote: Trust in what way? That's not exactly a binary question. You mean like babysitting? And as long as he isn't high or drunk at that point in time, why wouldn't I trust them? I just said that they were adept at what they do. Role models even. They do have a sense of responsibility. I mean come on, I wouldn't trust anyone like that unless I knew them well enough, regardless of whether they do drugs or alcohol. It's not like "No drugs or alcohol? Here look after my son." That's fair. I meant babysitting and such, sure, but also in the case I referred to in the OP where my best friend began dating a pothead. They could be high at any time, without you being able to know when they will and will not be, and they might do it around your loved one. It's also fair that you wouldn't trust them without knowing them in the first place, but I wonder if the only thing you knew about them was their drug and/or alcohol use, wouldn't you be more inclined not to trust them? For better or for worse, I know I would be. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
"we already have laws to stop and deter bad behavior, we don't need additional laws about drugs to prevent the behavior we already have laws in place to handle" Seriously, go watch http://vimeo.com/30715947 and see if that doesn't change your mind about "drug abusers" | ||
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Yung
United States727 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On October 18 2011 08:02 Voltaire wrote: I'm not arguing with you. It's illegal. Helping slaves escape used to be illegal, too. The issue at hand isn't whether or not discrimination is legal or whether employers should be able to take that into account; it's about whether it's morally right to discriminate against someone solely because you know them to be using illegal drugs. So the question lies here: Is it moral to discriminate against someone for breaking the law without taking the morality of the law itself into account? I say no. So if someone is going to discriminate against me for smoking cannabis, they better damn know something about the drug and how it affects people. It is so frustrating to have people who have never smoked it before tell me what I can and cannot do while high solely based off of what they've seen in the media. It's just sheer ignorance. Yeah, this is where opinions differ. Breaking the law is breaking the law, and although I don't think they should hold the usage of marijuana to the same standard as a felony, it makes sense to take it into account. It's not discrimination. | ||
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UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
On October 19 2011 13:21 Froadac wrote: Yeah, this is where opinions differ. Breaking the law is breaking the law, and although I don't think they should hold the usage of marijuana to the same standard as a felony, it makes sense to take it into account. It's not discrimination. That's true, that the very nature of drug use as law breaking is reason enough to discriminate in some cases, whether you agree with the law or not. But I wonder, in a world where all drugs were legal, what would you think? | ||
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