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On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them.
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On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them.
T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby.
Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people.
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On October 20 2011 01:39 SnetteL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them. T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby. Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people.
If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed.
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It really depends of the drug that you are talking about. If my friend were to tell me that he smoked weed than all I would do is ask him if he has any on him, if he told me he was into heroin on the other hand I would probably think a little less of him.
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On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear..
Maybe some of the people voted that way because they have previously had friends who have spiralled out of control and ended up killing themselves with drugs or ruining their lives. So they dont want to see another person that they care about and are close to spiral out of control while feeling helpless and feeling theres nothing they can do. Sometimes its just easier to not run the risk of a relationship/friendship that could end up that painful.
Dont read that as me saying every "drug user" is going to end up that way and i hope they dont. But its sometimes hard to see why it would be worth the risk of a relationship that could end up with you watching someone self destruct.
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On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 01:39 SnetteL wrote:On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them. T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby. Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people. If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed.
Thank you, at least your reasoning is sound, but the obvious flaw in your logic is that you can't wrap your brain around a well-functioning drug using individual.
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On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 01:39 SnetteL wrote:On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them. T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby. Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people. If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Taking drugs does not automatically makes you an non-functioning members of society. Doing so much drugs you become a non-functioning members of society, is bad. Good for us that is a very very low percentage of the drug users.
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On October 20 2011 01:58 Archybaldie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.. Maybe some of the people voted that way because they have previously had friends who have spiralled out of control and ended up killing themselves with drugs or ruining their lives. So they dont want to see another person that they care about and are close to spiral out of control while feeling helpless and feeling theres nothing they can do. Sometimes its just easier to not run the risk of a relationship/friendship that could end up that painful. Dont read that as me saying every "drug user" is going to end up that way and i hope they dont. But its sometimes hard to see why it would be worth the risk of a relationship that could end up with you watching someone self destruct.
I've seen my share of people going down on drugs, don't misunderstand me, drugs cause problems, I wont argue on that.
The issue with prejudice in general is that it eats out room for thinking and results in automatic decision making. We should not focus on recognizing and condemning every user, but we should focus on filtering out the people who are going to end up in trouble, so we can help those.
To be honest it's not that hard to recognize an addict from an occasional user compared to telling the difference between an occasional user and someone who hasn't touched anything all his life long.
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On October 20 2011 02:00 SnetteL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 01:39 SnetteL wrote:On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them. T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby. Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people. If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed. Thank you, at least your reasoning is sound, but the obvious flaw in your logic is that you can't wrap your brain around a well-functioning drug using individual.
Actually I can.
I never said that all drug users become non-functioning members of society, did I? I merely said that if my friend started acting that way because of drugs, I wouldn't be too happy about it. My opinion of him would obviously change. Different people are affected differently by drugs. You can't generalize all drug users in one particular way.
On October 20 2011 02:10 saynomore wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 01:39 SnetteL wrote:On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them. T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby. Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people. If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Taking drugs does not automatically makes you an non-functioning members of society. Doing so much drugs you become a non-functioning members of society, is bad. Good for us that is a very very low percentage of the drug users.
Never said it did. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make strawman arguments.
Thanks.
Feel free to see my above response to the other guy. You both seem to love jumping to conclusions.
Note that your opinion of someone is allowed to change for pretty much any justifiable reason, not just because they happen to become a non-functioning member of society (which *can* happen if they start taking drugs or for many other reasons). You guys are the ones who are uptight, attempting to defend something you think is black and white.
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On October 20 2011 02:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 02:10 saynomore wrote:On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 01:39 SnetteL wrote:On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them. T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby. Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people. If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Taking drugs does not automatically makes you an non-functioning members of society. Doing so much drugs you become a non-functioning members of society, is bad. Good for us that is a very very low percentage of the drug users. Never said it did. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make strawman arguments. Thanks. Feel free to see my above response to the other guy. You both seem to love jumping to conclusions. Note that your opinion of someone is allowed to change for pretty much any justifiable reason, not just because they happen to become a non-functioning member of society (which *can* happen if they start taking drugs or for many other reasons). You guys are the ones who are uptight, attempting to defend something you think is black and white.
I totally agree with your last statement. I would not say it is a strawman argument. I would criticizes your lack of precision in your language. It is very unclear what you mean or are trying to say.
If we didn't understand your post at first, why didn't you post your response the first time? It is very spot on and hard to misinterpret. Your first comment, was in my opinion, not.
It seems our views are quite like. But unclarity gives room for major misinterpretations.
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On October 20 2011 02:51 saynomore wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 02:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 02:10 saynomore wrote:On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 01:39 SnetteL wrote:On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them. T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby. Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people. If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Taking drugs does not automatically makes you an non-functioning members of society. Doing so much drugs you become a non-functioning members of society, is bad. Good for us that is a very very low percentage of the drug users. Never said it did. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make strawman arguments. Thanks. Feel free to see my above response to the other guy. You both seem to love jumping to conclusions. Note that your opinion of someone is allowed to change for pretty much any justifiable reason, not just because they happen to become a non-functioning member of society (which *can* happen if they start taking drugs or for many other reasons). You guys are the ones who are uptight, attempting to defend something you think is black and white. I totally agree with your last statement. I would not say it is a strawman argument. I would criticizes your lack of precision in your language. It is very unclear what you mean or are trying to say. If we didn't understand your post at first, why didn't you post your response the first time? It is very spot on and hard to misinterpret. Your first comment, was in my opinion, not. It seems our views are quite like. But unclarity gives room for major misinterpretations.
I don't really see how it's ambiguous.
If I told you that I had a friend who started doing drugs and it made him a non-functioning member of society, I don't really see how you could think that I actually said "All people that do drugs are non-functioning members of society". You're making a sweeping generalization that I never made, and for you to attack your own generalization instead of what I explicitly said about my friend (which is what you and the other guy did) is to fallaciously create a strawman argument.
But regardless, I'm glad we agree 
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On October 20 2011 02:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 02:51 saynomore wrote:On October 20 2011 02:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 02:10 saynomore wrote:On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 01:39 SnetteL wrote:On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them. T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby. Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people. If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Taking drugs does not automatically makes you an non-functioning members of society. Doing so much drugs you become a non-functioning members of society, is bad. Good for us that is a very very low percentage of the drug users. Never said it did. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make strawman arguments. Thanks. Feel free to see my above response to the other guy. You both seem to love jumping to conclusions. Note that your opinion of someone is allowed to change for pretty much any justifiable reason, not just because they happen to become a non-functioning member of society (which *can* happen if they start taking drugs or for many other reasons). You guys are the ones who are uptight, attempting to defend something you think is black and white. I totally agree with your last statement. I would not say it is a strawman argument. I would criticizes your lack of precision in your language. It is very unclear what you mean or are trying to say. If we didn't understand your post at first, why didn't you post your response the first time? It is very spot on and hard to misinterpret. Your first comment, was in my opinion, not. It seems our views are quite like. But unclarity gives room for major misinterpretations. I don't really see how it's ambiguous. If I told you that I had a friend who started doing drugs and it made him a non-functioning member of society, I don't really see how you could think that I actually said " All people that do drugs are non-functioning members of society". You're making a sweeping generalization that I never made, and for you to attack your own generalization instead of what I explicitly said about my friend (which is what you and the other guy did) is to fallaciously create a strawman argument. But regardless, I'm glad we agree
As the 'above guy' I would like to point that we misunderstood you because you used 'magical bread' or whatever which we thought stood for drugs in general, you probably meant it as a kind of drug.
Everything else you've since then said was either repetition or saying that we generalise/black n white stuff/etcetc or you getting worked up because we misunderstood you.
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On October 20 2011 02:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 02:51 saynomore wrote:On October 20 2011 02:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 02:10 saynomore wrote:On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 01:39 SnetteL wrote:On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them. T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby. Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people. If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Taking drugs does not automatically makes you an non-functioning members of society. Doing so much drugs you become a non-functioning members of society, is bad. Good for us that is a very very low percentage of the drug users. Never said it did. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make strawman arguments. Thanks. Feel free to see my above response to the other guy. You both seem to love jumping to conclusions. Note that your opinion of someone is allowed to change for pretty much any justifiable reason, not just because they happen to become a non-functioning member of society (which *can* happen if they start taking drugs or for many other reasons). You guys are the ones who are uptight, attempting to defend something you think is black and white. I totally agree with your last statement. I would not say it is a strawman argument. I would criticizes your lack of precision in your language. It is very unclear what you mean or are trying to say. If we didn't understand your post at first, why didn't you post your response the first time? It is very spot on and hard to misinterpret. Your first comment, was in my opinion, not. It seems our views are quite like. But unclarity gives room for major misinterpretations. I don't really see how it's ambiguous. If I told you that I had a friend who started doing drugs and it made him a non-functioning member of society, I don't really see how you could think that I actually said " All people that do drugs are non-functioning members of society". You're making a sweeping generalization that I never made, and for you to attack your own generalization instead of what I explicitly said about my friend (which is what you and the other guy did) is to fallaciously create a strawman argument. But regardless, I'm glad we agree
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On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed.
You say they, that reflects plural. What I get from it is they as in everyone who does drugs, as that is what we are talking about. And your comment seems to come out of no-where and adding no value to the discussion. Of course everyone would change their opinion about someone else in that matter.
Then with dirt throwing as they are all non-function members of society. I cant see it as nothing but an ignorant statement that generalizing everyone who is they as something highly negative.
That is my interpretation of your post. As of now with your later clarification of your post, it seems to me that it was clearly not your intent.
But this is obviously not the point of this thread, so I will drop this discussion now.
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On October 19 2011 22:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 21:27 acidfreak wrote:
When I found out djWheat is a stoner my respect for him went up from "good" to "OMG I WANT TO MEET HIM AND SHAKE HIS HAND". Need I say more? Really? o.O Why? I mean, I'm for legalization of marijuana and I don't see a problem with pot in general, but I think it's a little odd that you would go from "I like this SC2 personality" to "He is now a legendary icon in my life" just because he does drugs. Out of everything djWheat has done for our community, smoking pot is the thing that's made you most impressed? When you meet him, are you gonna be like "I smoke pot too!" (assuming you do, sorry if I'm wrong... otherwise I don't see why you'd care). On a sidenote, he's a very cool guy in person. I met him (and Day[9], Artosis, and Tasteless) at MLG Columbus.
I don't think it's the whole "smoking pot" thing that is impressive about Wheat (I'm sure a large number of people on the SC2 proscene are closet pot smokers), it's the balls he has to admit it, nay, embrace it as part of who he is. I have mad respect for public figures who don't feel they must keep parts of their lives hidden.
Plus, you know, common ground...
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On October 20 2011 03:10 saynomore wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 02:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 02:51 saynomore wrote:On October 20 2011 02:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 02:10 saynomore wrote:On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 20 2011 01:39 SnetteL wrote:On October 19 2011 23:42 Dranak wrote:On October 19 2011 20:43 SnetteL wrote:
How can this community be this uptight?
How shallow can you be if your opinion of someone you know changes just because they use drugs? If you are sincere with other people you base your opinion on their behavior/actions. Whether they are using drugs or not should be as trivial as which kind of clothes they wear.
Exactly. You base your opinion on their actions, using drugs is an action, therefore it affects your opinion of them. T.T you are difficult. Everyone with half a brain can make a distinction between eating bread as an action or killing a baby. Sometimes things are implied because they make communication easier. As actions I obviously ent actions who are in any way related to other people. If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Taking drugs does not automatically makes you an non-functioning members of society. Doing so much drugs you become a non-functioning members of society, is bad. Good for us that is a very very low percentage of the drug users. Never said it did. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make strawman arguments. Thanks. Feel free to see my above response to the other guy. You both seem to love jumping to conclusions. Note that your opinion of someone is allowed to change for pretty much any justifiable reason, not just because they happen to become a non-functioning member of society (which *can* happen if they start taking drugs or for many other reasons). You guys are the ones who are uptight, attempting to defend something you think is black and white. I totally agree with your last statement. I would not say it is a strawman argument. I would criticizes your lack of precision in your language. It is very unclear what you mean or are trying to say. If we didn't understand your post at first, why didn't you post your response the first time? It is very spot on and hard to misinterpret. Your first comment, was in my opinion, not. It seems our views are quite like. But unclarity gives room for major misinterpretations. I don't really see how it's ambiguous. If I told you that I had a friend who started doing drugs and it made him a non-functioning member of society, I don't really see how you could think that I actually said " All people that do drugs are non-functioning members of society". You're making a sweeping generalization that I never made, and for you to attack your own generalization instead of what I explicitly said about my friend (which is what you and the other guy did) is to fallaciously create a strawman argument. But regardless, I'm glad we agree Here is the quote: Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 01:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
If they started eating illegal bread that somehow makes them non-functioning members of society, then my opinion of them would be changed. You say they, that reflects plural. What I get from it is they as in everyone who does drugs, as that is what we are talking about. And your comment seems to come out of no-where and adding no value to the discussion. Of course everyone would change their opinion about someone else in that matter. Then with dirt throwing as they are all non-function members of society. I cant see it as nothing but an ignorant statement that generalizing everyone who is they as something highly negative. That is my interpretation of your post. As of now with your later clarification of your post, it seems to me that it was clearly not your intent. But this is obviously not the point of this thread, so I will drop this discussion now.
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I love this arguement that you shouldn't judge people on the basis that they use drugs. Someone compared it to judging someone on eating bread? Uh, no, not even close.
Let me start by saying that I have nothing wrong with people that want to use drugs, that's their choice. I've been there, done that too. However, the idea that drug use isn't an action to judge a man on, well that's just stupid. Everyone has different ideas on what drugs do, their effects, their harms, their benefits; everyone agrees about the "effects" of bread, it nourishes. When people have positive views on drugs, they're going to look fondly on those that use them. When people have negative outlooks on them, they're going to judge negatively upon those that use them. Someone of you may think that using drugs is just a normal thing, but what about those whose family members ODed, or who's friends dropped out of college to sustain a drug habit. Quit being such self centered whiny people, and think critically for once, outside of your own little worlds.
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´I personally am afraid that in fact it is a prejudice, and that my own personal discomfort associated with drug users, or even people who drink Alcohol in non-trivial quantities or use recreational Adderall, is just as wrong as other forms of discrimination. This is something I've begun dwelling on lately because my best friend has recently started dating someone who is addicted to pot, and I've managed to make her angry with me after expressing that I think she could do better. Am I in the wrong?
OP: It's just as bad in principle, but my principles don't stop me from feeling uncomfortable around women and black people. It's a natural reaction to confrontation with a different perspective on reality. I try to change that, but I´m not perfect.
Trying to convince people of an opposing standpoint on this issue is as useless as debating politics or religion. Most people don´t know enough about the issue to have a nuanced opinion. Best thing to do is listen.
Trying to change them is as useless as trying to change women or blacks. Drug users are in a symbiotic relationship with a plant, changing their consciousness. Calling that fundamentally wrong or sinful is dangerous, because you assume you have a right to determine their subjective viewpoints (consciousness, internal chemistry, whatever you want to call it)
But it´s difficult, because lot´s of people presume to have the rights to determine that stuff for other people. And maybe they do. I mean, any parent or anyone in education would say they have the right to have influence over what children experience. After turning 16, 18, or 21 we say they have to choose for themselves what they vote for, what religious denomination they take, whether or not to have sex and with what gender, what culture to immerse themselves into (Race is a cultural construct! Race is a cultural construct!), or even what gender they want to be. So, why do states still regard their citizens as children with regard to what they put in their body?
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On October 20 2011 03:18 forgotten0ne wrote:
I love this arguement that you shouldn't judge people on the basis that they use drugs. Someone compared it to judging someone on eating bread? Uh, no, not even close.
Let me start by saying that I have nothing wrong with people that want to use drugs, that's their choice. I've been there, done that too. However, the idea that drug use isn't an action to judge a man on, well that's just stupid. Everyone has different ideas on what drugs do, their effects, their harms, their benefits; everyone agrees about the "effects" of bread, it nourishes. When people have positive views on drugs, they're going to look fondly on those that use them. When people have negative outlooks on them, they're going to judge negatively upon those that use them. Someone of you may think that using drugs is just a normal thing, but what about those whose family members ODed, or who's friends dropped out of college to sustain a drug habit. Quit being such self centered whiny people, and think critically for once, outside of your own little worlds.
I don't take drugs when i'm in the lab now do I? I absolutely love this:
However, the idea that drug use isn't an action to judge a man on, well that's just stupid.
Thank for solving the thread sir.
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