EPTIf they are already addicted, It would really depend on how much of a friend this person is. If they are a friend that I have a long history with etc, then I will take helping them a step further, but if it is just a friend I met at school less than a year ago, I will just ignore it
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
If they are already addicted, It would really depend on how much of a friend this person is. If they are a friend that I have a long history with etc, then I will take helping them a step further, but if it is just a friend I met at school less than a year ago, I will just ignore it | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
When I hear something like that my face expression turns into a reditt rage comic figure. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
So, if I find out that someone is using drugs or smokes, then I do automatically think less of them. Not so much in a judgmental "ugh you're not a good person" kind of way, but in a "meh, I don't really want to hang out with you a lot" kind of way. Same way that if I meet someone who says they hate video games but adores hunting and fishing, then I am instantly a little more turned off by that person, even in a friendship. I think that's natural and fair. Of course, this doesn't apply to people that you have an existing relationship with. Obviously I'm not disowning my family members that smoke or don't like video games. But with friends and acquaintances? Why not? Like so many people have said in this thread "who does it hurt?" I'm who I am. I have preferences and deal-breakers just as you have preferences and deal-breakers. Just as we preach to our children that they shouldn't change who they are to make people like them, we shouldn't tell ourselves to change ourselves to make ourselves like other people. | ||
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Tincuradan
24 Posts
On October 17 2011 22:21 Tincuradan wrote: So, the basic question before the United Nations is: Can we trust humanity with its own destiny? Aside from everything else in your post, which was thought provoking cause it was all arguments I've never heard, though I'm still trying to figure it out because you were pretty rambling, I'm looking at this line and wondering. Did you just beat Dues Ex Human Revolution? A a matter of fact I haven't, but I have a similar beard. I was into transhumanism before it was cool... Now that I think about it, it has always been cool. I do keep editing, it should be a little clearer. Rambling is sometimes the most accurate way to approximate the complexity of the situation. Also, it's so much fun :D | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
And I'd never hire a drug user, even if very qualified for the job. | ||
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Snusdosa
Sweden112 Posts
Yes, I will say to you, why smoke at all if you know full well that you are funding criminals? And you said that you need to back up on stuff like buying new clothes and not taking airplanes? Clothes are a necessity of life. Travel by air is a necessity for people who do business or work overseas. They are necessary evils, from what you describe them. Because i believe that even though im funding criminals (not anymore since i found the local dealer) its still not worse than what other people are doing. Clothes are a necessity of life? Sure, but honestly, does the average joe really need six pairs of pants? Does ANY girl need three pairs of shoes? Is there any legit reason why someone should own 10 different T-shirts? If people really only bought clothes because they are a necessity of life, i'd agree with you, but thats not the situation. People but clothes to look good, to fit in, and because we live in an extremely materialistic culture. The harm done by marijuana isn't even remotely close to the damage and suffering caused by our greedy lust for cheap products we dont really need. So with 80% of the world being completely oblivious to this, why the hell should i feel bad for "funding" criminals by ocassionally purchasing a couple of grams of weed from someone? But you smoking weed or not is totally not a necessity. And you chose to smoke weed. And you said you are forced to help criminals because the state made weed illegal (ie, not your fault, its the law's fault). Nope, people smoking tobacco costs society millions each year because of the health problems caused by tobacco. With alcohol its even worse and add to that all the violence, crime and abuse caused by alcohol. But these two substances are most certainly not a necessity of life. People could choose to not smoke or drink, but they dont. Do you think these people are better than marijuana smokers? And I noticed that you said you buy your weed from your friend who grows his own weed from home. No ties to criminal elements. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I have no problem with that. I just don't agree with the concept that buying drugs = flying in aeroplanes to SEA countries = buying clothes = equal amounts of sin. No, buying and using drugs is disproportionately more sinful compared to the other two, and can be totally avoided if you choose to. Sorry but you're wrong, when you're flying to for example Thailand to spend a week on vacation with your family you are supporting the exploitation of the locals and their land as well as using a means of transport that causes great damage to the ecosystem. I have no idea how this seems more harmless than buying and smoking some weed every now and then to you but anyone with isn't biased would immediately recognise the sooner to be more inhuman than the latter. | ||
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Snusdosa
Sweden112 Posts
On October 17 2011 23:12 Arctocod wrote: I think it's perfectly fine to discriminate against people who break the law. And I'd never hire a drug user, even if very qualified for the job. About a 100 years ago it was illegal for women to vote in Sweden, so a women attempting to vote was basically commiting an act of crime. Would you say the men who discriminated women back then did something that was justified? I mean according to your logic, seeing as it was written in the law, what they did was perfectly fine. Also you're a narrowminded, discriminating jerk. | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
On October 17 2011 23:16 Snusdosa wrote: About a 100 years ago it was illegal for women to vote in Sweden, so a women attempting to vote was basically commiting an act of crime. Would you say the men who discriminated women back then did something that was justified? I mean according to your logic, seeing as it was written in the law, what they did was perfectly fine. Also you're a narrowminded, discriminating jerk. yes, I would absolutely attempt to stop the woman voting. I have no problem with people fighting to legalize drugs, as I am very glad women fought to gain their voting rights. If you think drugs should be legalized, you should fight for it, I respect you for that. Until drugs are legal, you should not use them. If drug use became legal, I would consider hiring a drug user. I am very offended by you calling me a jerk for being against breaking the law. | ||
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AllHailTheDead
United States418 Posts
big deal i honestly dont think it affects anyone when you get into other stuff tho thats when its a problem and you should be prejudice someone who does hard drugs everyday will eventually fuck themselves up and thats the truth | ||
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Hipsv
135 Posts
As far as people who smoke pot breaking the law, its not actually true, its illegal to have marijuana in your possession (1 gram and over in Canada, so a single .5 joint is legal) and it is illegal to distribute it, but not illegal to use it. | ||
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Snusdosa
Sweden112 Posts
yes, I would absolutely attempt to stop the woman voting. I have no problem with people fighting to legalize drugs, as I am very glad women fought to gain their voting rights. If you think drugs should be legalized, you should fight for it, I respect you for that. Until drugs are legal, you should not use them. If drug use became legal, I would consider hiring a drug user. You're basically saying that no matter how wrong something is, you would follow it if it was the law. Have you ever considered actually thinking on your own? I am very offended by you calling me a jerk for being against breaking the law. And im offended by you ruling out so many people you have never met because of something someone decided over 80 years ago. If you would do some thinking for yourself, you would realize that there's nothing wrong with most people who smoke weed, its the law thats wrong. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44301 Posts
On October 17 2011 23:22 Hipsv wrote: Drug use as in casual use shouldn't sway your opinion of a person, drug abuse should as it is almost always accompanied by psychological problems. As far as hiring goes, what someone does on their weekend is their own business as far as I am concerned. If they come in completely fucked up though, or have a history of doing so then yeah I can see why people wouldn't hire them, but the same is true for alcohol use. As far as people who smoke pot breaking the law, its not actually true, its illegal to have marijuana in your possession (1 gram and over in Canada, so a single .5 joint is legal) and it is illegal to distribute it, but not illegal to use it. Seeing as how you can't use something if you don't have it (at least, that logic is pretty much solid in the United States, I don't know how it works in Canada), it's pretty much illegal to possess pot. (I don't like the fact that it's illegal, but it's illegal.) | ||
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
On October 17 2011 23:20 Arctocod wrote: yes, I would absolutely attempt to stop the woman voting. I have no problem with people fighting to legalize drugs, as I am very glad women fought to gain their voting rights. If you think drugs should be legalized, you should fight for it, I respect you for that. Until drugs are legal, you should not use them. If drug use became legal, I would consider hiring a drug user. I am very offended by you calling me a jerk for being against breaking the law. wat As if you don't know it's wrong for women to be suppressed? By that same logic you would have staunchly supported slavery. Might be an extreme but it's logically consistent with what you're saying here | ||
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TeH_CaRnAg3
United States239 Posts
I feel like we shouldn't look down on people because they have a drug issue. Now I don't like to surround myself with heroin addicts, but I know a few of them and I always am willing to help them in any way I can as long as it's something that is going to benefit them, like staying at my house because they don't want to be around there normal friends because they are heroin junkies and my friend is trying to get clean. Or help with a ride to look for a job, or to a clinic. Just don't judge people on there problems, as a lot of us have issues quite severe we do not want to talk or think about. Most junkies I know are good people. Great and talented people, who made a few wrong choices and have a REALLY hard time correcting those choices. I've seen people going through heroin withdrawl, and it is fucking insane. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Like, if I got a new job and one week down the line a coworker tells me, "Me and Derp love to smoke a joint at his house every other Friday night", I wouldn't have any problem with that because they do it in private (assuming there is nobody in his house at the time) and it wouldn't make them worse workers because they do it over the weekend. | ||
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zhenherald
Canada37 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On October 17 2011 23:20 Arctocod wrote: yes, I would absolutely attempt to stop the woman voting. I have no problem with people fighting to legalize drugs, as I am very glad women fought to gain their voting rights. If you think drugs should be legalized, you should fight for it, I respect you for that. Until drugs are legal, you should not use them. If drug use became legal, I would consider hiring a drug user. I am very offended by you calling me a jerk for being against breaking the law. I have never used drugs but i think it's a sign of good character. Shows a person isn't a slave to tradition and can make up his own mind. | ||
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couches
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Virtue
United States318 Posts
I had a friend who I used to hang out with regularly start smoking pot and eventually it got to the point where we would plan to hang out and he would say,"Yeah, I'll call you when I'm off work." and never call. I knew some of the guys he worked with and he was basically getting high with them after work. This happened every week during that summer and now we've only seen each other on the bus three or four times in almost 2 years. He recently told me that he felt bad about ignoring me all that time, but we've still never hung out. The same thing happened to a friend I graduated with. She started smoking pot and all she would do for a while is smoke and hang out with people who did too. She kind of just stopped trying to hang out with me and now I haven't seen her in a few months. As much as people who smoke pot want to rant about how it isn't addictive and it isn't bad for you at all, it sure seemed to addict them. Also, I wasn't being judgmental to them at all. I never confronted them harshly about it. I only politely refused to smoke with them once or twice, and since then they were just uninterested in me at all and I've known them for years. | ||
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Rob28
Canada705 Posts
As for the whole "pot addiction" thing: Physically, no, it's not. Habitually, yes, it is. I smoke pot when I get bored, not because I "get the shakes" or anything like that. It's an addiction based on how fun it is. Pot addicts are about as unadjusted as people who masturbate... which I'm pretty sure is 99% of the population. They do it because it feels good. | ||
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