EPTPrejudice Against Drug Use? - Page 22
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QuackPocketDuck
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
On October 18 2011 00:20 Valentine wrote: Almost all of my best friends are druggies. Funny how they ended up being more genuine than most other people I know. same. i'm constantly astounded by how every pot user i meet is very honest and unapologetic. of course like in the general population we have shady ass potheads, but most i would say embrace really positive but sometimes stupid hippie values. On October 18 2011 00:25 QuackPocketDuck wrote: How is it normal that anyone can go see a doctor tell them they hate life and that gives them and instant access to drugs which are acceptable by societly? those same drugs they can later on sell to their friends who are too lazy to get their own prescriptions. i wrote this whole long thing about how i agree, and how extremely popular drugs have side effects hilariously worse than weed (advil, alcohol, nicotine, adderall). then i remembered that evangelizing marijuana still carries a stigma and people won't believe me anyway. these kinds of things you sorta have to find out for yourself, people! google that shit | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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Thebbeuttiffulland
Brazil288 Posts
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Elektrobear
108 Posts
It's drug abuse that's a problem. If you can hold your shit together, do whatever the hell you want. | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
On October 18 2011 00:27 intrigue wrote: same. i'm constantly astounded by how every pot user i meet is very honest and unapologetic. of course like in the general population we have shady ass potheads, but most i would say embrace really positive but sometimes stupid hippie values. When you're high (I'll speak to pot specifically) you generally don't care to deal with the bullshitting that comes with most of every day life. I myself have gotten over some pretty heavy drug issues, and for most people it is almost never as cut and dry as 'X shouldn't do it. X should just stop." I don't condone daily speedballs or getting to the point where you're smoking crack in a public washroom; but I think it's excessively immature to judge someone for trying/using drugs; especially ones that do not interfere with their day to day life (ie cigarettes, casual marijuana or alcohol consumption) | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
Somewhat on etards, although I've done e once myself for the experience, although I had a really weak effect. Weed? That's laughable. If you have a stigma against weed you're either still in high school, are super super sheltered, or have been exposed to a LOT of deadbeats and associate weed with why they are deadbeats. | ||
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
Being able to quickly judge how dangerous something/someone is just by their appearances has been something useful. I fully understand that today it's something bad, something that hinders more than helps but I don't understand why people just fully ignore it. Accept your prejudice because you will always have it. I am not saying that racists, homophobes, sexists and the like should just keep on doing what they're doing but it's hard to near impossible to immediately change your perception of people. Instead, when you meet a new person, think about what your thoughts about the person are. Does the way (s)he dresses impact your first impression somewhat? His way of talking? His way of moving? If so, why? I am the first to admit that I have tons of racist tendencies that pop up when I first see someone new. Mostly about people with other skin color than I but I have them for white people as well. I also have prejudice against old people, girls with a lot of make-up, guys with shaved heads, girls with shaved heads, people with tattoos, people with piercings. I have all of that prejudice but since I am very much aware of them I can ignore them more easily. People keep talking about racism and other kinds of prejudice like you can just ignore it. As if it's something that's not programmed into our very primitive parts of the brain. It irritates me greatly. I could go on about this much longer but I'd just wish people calmed the fuck down about all this prejudice. It's there, it's going to be there for many years to come and it will probably never go away. Prejudice has kept us alive thus far and it will keep us alive in the future as well. It can be good and it can be bad. I guess it's mostly bad these days but it's there. Deal with it and stop whining. | ||
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
As long as you aren't shoving anything in my throat, I'm sure we can get along. | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
On October 17 2011 11:32 UmiNotsuki wrote: What about in the case of psychological or even physiological dependence on a drug? He sure can't stop then. Still not prejudice? Please be aware I'm just curious what people think, not arguing one way or another. That's interesting. Does your history with flaky and untrustworthy addicts give you ground on which it's okay to judge other users? I feel that it does, I knew them before they decided to become users and after. I can say from my own experience that it definitively changers a person. Let me ask you this would you rather befriend a person who is powerless over a substance and will do whatever it takes to get high, or a person who doesn't have that issue and their actions are not unpredictable. | ||
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Shinrae
United Kingdom95 Posts
If they're the sort to go out after a few lines/whatever and cause shit, or to steal/harm others to feed an addiction then sure. They're dicks who deserve none of anyones time. The sort of person who goes home after a long day at work/college/whatever and has a quiet spliff on their own/with a couple friends? Well whats so wrong with that? I've grown up around drugs and drug users, all at varying levels and I can honestly say it all comes down to the person and how they go about it. So really, no. I don't think there should be a default go-to prejudice against drug users. I know people who smoke weed, enjoy their chemicals and are still hard working, respectible members of society who are great to be around and, if it wasn't for knowing them, wouldn't suspect of using at all. Just as how I know people who's only experience with drugs is alchohol, who're complete arseholes. | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
On October 18 2011 00:36 FabledIntegral wrote: Depends on what drug - yeah I'll look down on a meth or heroine user. Somewhat on etards, although I've done e once myself for the experience, although I had a really weak effect. Weed? That's laughable. If you have a stigma against weed you're either still in high school, are super super sheltered, or have been exposed to a LOT of deadbeats and associate weed with why they are deadbeats. and on this thread this is very true, obviously depends what we are talking about here... | ||
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rogzardo
610 Posts
On October 17 2011 23:50 Virtue wrote: I don't really buy the victimless crime thing. I mean, I suppose they are likely not hurting anyone physically, but even the 'lightest' drugs do damage to relationships. I had a friend who I used to hang out with regularly start smoking pot and eventually it got to the point where we would plan to hang out and he would say,"Yeah, I'll call you when I'm off work." and never call. I knew some of the guys he worked with and he was basically getting high with them after work. This happened every week during that summer and now we've only seen each other on the bus three or four times in almost 2 years. He recently told me that he felt bad about ignoring me all that time, but we've still never hung out. The same thing happened to a friend I graduated with. She started smoking pot and all she would do for a while is smoke and hang out with people who did too. She kind of just stopped trying to hang out with me and now I haven't seen her in a few months. As much as people who smoke pot want to rant about how it isn't addictive and it isn't bad for you at all, it sure seemed to addict them. Also, I wasn't being judgmental to them at all. I never confronted them harshly about it. I only politely refused to smoke with them once or twice, and since then they were just uninterested in me at all and I've known them for years. They found cooler friends. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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TheGlassface
United States612 Posts
I mean, wow. There are good and bad people of all kinds. Everyone uses drugs, from caffeine to alcohol to meth to opiates to ADHD medication. I personally have met meth addicts who maintained a 6 figure income and family. I've met an alcoholic who graduated cum laudi, who happened to write all of his finals on mescaline. I've also seen a man robbed over a 20 sack of weed and personally been at the hands of several bad encounters with addicts. Don't blame the drug, blame the person. Wow. I really did not expect what I saw here. | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On October 18 2011 00:51 TheGlassface wrote: Wow @ responses. I mean, wow. There are good and bad people of all kinds. Everyone uses drugs, from caffeine to alcohol to meth to opiates to ADHD medication. I personally have met meth addicts who maintained a 6 figure income and family. I've met an alcoholic who graduated cum laudi, who happened to write all of his finals on mescaline. I've also seen a man robbed over a 20 sack of weed and personally been at the hands of several bad encounters with addicts. Don't blame the drug, blame the person. Wow. I really did not expect what I saw here. Not everyone uses drugs/alcohol of some kind. | ||
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Shinrae
United Kingdom95 Posts
On October 18 2011 00:53 RoosterSamurai wrote: Not everyone uses drugs/alcohol of some kind. I think the shock is coming from the high number of posters with minimal experience with drugs/users putting everything onto the same plate as child killers. + Show Spoiler + Has made for both an amusing and rage inducing thread though. Suprised I haven't spotted the copypasta about the guys brother overdosing after injecting weed tbh. | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
Salvia, marijuana, shrooms, cocaine, amphetamines, mdma, 2c-i, dextromethorphan, diphenhydramine and n2o helped me learn a lot about myself. Who I really am deep down without inhibitions (stimulants, psychedelics) and understanding of reality, taking the steps 1 by 1 to re-learn how existence works (mostly focusing on DXM and salvia here) Valium (and related benzos), alcohol, marijuana, helped me learn a lot about the world and people around me. Of course my regularly prescribed medications fall under this category as well. Opiates, methamphetamine, cocaine, and n2o helped me a learn a lot about my weaknesses and highlight the worst aspects of my life, and everyone else's lives. I guess I don't really have much of a message here other than some people can use, learn, understand, and move on. Drugs don't have to be a lifetime crutch, and my experiences have taught me a lot. I understand why someone would look down on me if I told them what I have done, but I also feel sympathy for them, as I know they will never understand what I have learned from my usage. Not sure if I missed any on the list.. lol. | ||
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